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Maybe I'm missing a few things....

a lot of things.

Let takes a hypothetical, really good hermetic mage, in violent situation.

(The numbers below denote dice)

Hermetic A

Magic 6.
Spellcasting 5.
Spellcasting Focus (combat) 3.
Spellcasting Speciality (combat) 2.
Combat enhancing totem spirit 2.

18 Dice.

Vs.. the exact counter to that - basically, same dice but the specialties/focii are in Counterspelling (combat). So Hermetic A vs Hermetic B. Where Hermetic B is the really good "combat counterspeller".

Now Hermetic A decides to over-cast manaball... (12 Physical + Successes)

Is the best defence Hermetic B can offer 18 dice? Is there some personal/shadowrunning group pre-cast magic shielding/warding that can be used?

Because based on straight counterspelling - assuming equal skill - you're looking at a 50-50 roll that decides life or death for any character...

Sam W.
All this in comparisson to a troll who is sporting something like 29 dice of combined Body + Armor to resist damage...
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- Nerhesi   Lethality of Magic (even Magic vs Magic)   Nov 14 2006, 09:24 PM
- - fistandantilus3.0   well, first off, I believe cover still applies for...   Nov 14 2006, 09:34 PM
- - Mal-2   QUOTE (Nerhesi @ Nov 14 2006, 04:24 PM) Is th...   Nov 14 2006, 09:43 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Doesn't Mountain add +2 counterspelling?   Nov 14 2006, 09:46 PM
- - Butterblume   Surprise is your friend. It's similar with gu...   Nov 14 2006, 09:53 PM
- - DireRadiant   Extreme examples get extreme results.   Nov 14 2006, 10:07 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) Doesn't Mountain add +2 coun...   Nov 14 2006, 10:19 PM
- - fool   the spell mana barrier is your best freind.   Nov 14 2006, 10:21 PM
- - Demerzel   QUOTE (hyzmarca) Good thing they got rid of Focus ...   Nov 14 2006, 10:21 PM
- - fistandantilus3.0   works differently than before. It used to be, if y...   Nov 14 2006, 10:24 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Demerzel) QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Nov 14 200...   Nov 14 2006, 10:26 PM
- - laughingowl   Don't have my SR3 PDFs with me. But didnt SR3...   Nov 15 2006, 12:38 AM
- - Jack Kain   It should be noted there are various effects to te...   Nov 15 2006, 01:01 AM
- - laughingowl   QUOTE (Jack Kain) I think the real problem in magi...   Nov 15 2006, 01:26 AM
- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (laughingowl) Limiting overcast force increa...   Nov 15 2006, 02:28 AM
- - laughingowl   RunerPaul: Glad you like it. To me it tones down ...   Nov 15 2006, 03:32 AM
- - Nerhesi   Mana-barrier is a static, unmoving "wall...   Nov 15 2006, 02:55 PM
- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Jack Kain) The second problem is that while...   Nov 15 2006, 03:41 PM
- - GWCarver   Nerhesi, All the area effect spells can be moved w...   Nov 15 2006, 04:21 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Demerzel) QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Nov 14 200...   Nov 15 2006, 08:04 PM
- - Mal-2   QUOTE (knasser) It forces reliance on tactics, cun...   Nov 15 2006, 08:26 PM
- - Cold-Dragon   QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Nov 15 2006, 10:41 AM) Q...   Nov 16 2006, 02:04 AM
- - Dentris   Oh, and you are limited to 5 times your magic rati...   Nov 16 2006, 01:17 PM
- - Aemon   FYI, Synner addressed the overcast healing of Phys...   Nov 16 2006, 04:20 PM


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