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lorechaser
post Nov 28 2006, 02:43 PM
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So here are a couple new negative qualities I'm thinking of introducing (once I manage to actually get people to, you know, show up to the game). Any thoughts on the balance or appropriateness? Or better names? Or better wording?

Human Throwback (10 pts): This quality may only be taken by a metahuman. Choose a starting attribute that has a racial bonus, and reduce that attributes by one. Your augmented maximum for that attribute is now the same as your racial maximum. In certain circumstances, you may suffer a charisma penalty dealing with members of your own metatype.

The intent is that you get a smaller bonus than a normal member of your race, and you can never be as good as a normal member. The 10 pts is conveniently enough to raise another attribute, but since just shuffling felt cheesy, this also penalizes the attribute you weakened. The pseudo-science is a partially expressed UGE - you didn't get the full benefits of your goblinization.


Dain Bramage (15 pts): Whether you used too many BTL's, burned your brain out on Black IC, or just never quite kept up with the kids, you just aren't as quick as the average bear. You take a -1 penalty on all reaction based checks, and can never spend Edge to go first in a round, or gain extra init passes.


I considered a -2 penalty, but then it seemed like no one would ever take it. I also considered 10 points, but again, for 10 points, you basically get -1 reaction, plus other penalties.


Thoughts? Anyone else have neg. quals to share?

Edit:

Here's the current list, stolen from later in the thread.

Page 1:

Human Throwback (10 pts): Penalty to a racial bonus
Dain Bramage (15 pts): Slow to react.
Grandstander (20 pts): Must be the center of attention.
Enemy(Variable): Enemies.
Flashbacks(Variable,5 to 20)
Whore Hound (5 pt): You want to make sexy time?
Groupies (5/10/15/20 pt): Eeek! There he is!
Temper (10 pts): You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
Glass Jaw (5 pts): Uppercut! He's down!

Page 2:
Haunted(5/10/15/20): Spoooooky ghosts!
Mean as a Rattler (10pts): Kick em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down.
Grim Servant O Death (20pts): And he was the only one that lived...
Big Britches (5pts): Our fearless leader
Gambling Freak (5/10/15/20): Just one more roll....
Distinctive Style(5): It's all retro SR3!
Swimming with Sharks (0 BP): A pound of flesh.
Stepped on Toes (10 BP): You made someone real big real mad.
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- lorechaser   Homemade Negative Qualities   Nov 28 2006, 02:43 PM
- - emo samurai   Grandstander (20 pts) The grandstander has to mak...   Nov 28 2006, 02:47 PM
- - ElFenrir   I like the Dain Bramage and the Grandstander flaws...   Nov 28 2006, 03:43 PM
- - Butterblume   Dain Bramage . Cool name, reminds me of the munchk...   Nov 28 2006, 03:50 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...Dain Bramage would have been a good one for KK ...   Nov 28 2006, 04:03 PM
- - ChicagosFinest   Grandstander. LOL thats a good one I recomend that...   Nov 28 2006, 04:18 PM
- - Grinder   I would love to see some Deadlands-based flaws lik...   Nov 28 2006, 04:33 PM
- - SL James   QUOTE (emo samurai) Grandstander (20 pts) The gra...   Nov 28 2006, 04:38 PM
- - Eleazar   QUOTE (SL James) QUOTE (emo samurai @ Nov 28 ...   Nov 28 2006, 04:50 PM
- - lorechaser   QUOTE (Butterblume) Dain Bramage . Cool name, remi...   Nov 28 2006, 04:52 PM
- - lorechaser   QUOTE (Eleazar) Where did that come from SL Jame...   Nov 28 2006, 04:53 PM
- - ElFenrir   Hmm...perhaps we should catalogue some of these up...   Nov 28 2006, 05:14 PM
- - Butterblume   And the last 10% are just to crippling, like infir...   Nov 28 2006, 05:19 PM
- - ElFenrir   Yeah, I mean, Flaws SHOULD be a disadvantage, but ...   Nov 28 2006, 05:30 PM
- - SL James   QUOTE (Eleazar) QUOTE (SL James @ Nov 28 2006...   Nov 28 2006, 05:51 PM
- - ChicagosFinest   Here are some other suggestions: Whore Hound, Gro...   Nov 28 2006, 06:16 PM
- - lorechaser   Whore Hound, Groupies, Temper, Social Retard, Glas...   Nov 28 2006, 07:16 PM
- - ElFenrir   QUOTE Groupies (5/10/15/20 pt): You are easily rec...   Nov 28 2006, 08:34 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (ElFenrir) Distinctive Style can be reinstat...   Nov 28 2006, 08:38 PM
- - emo samurai   QUOTE (SL James @ Nov 28 2006, 11:51 AM) QUOT...   Nov 28 2006, 08:42 PM
- - ChicagosFinest   QUOTE (lorechaser) Whore Hound, Groupies, Temper, ...   Nov 28 2006, 08:48 PM
- - Jack Kain   I think whore hound would be covered under addicti...   Nov 28 2006, 08:51 PM
- - GWCarver   I like these, especialy glass jaw, keep'em com...   Nov 28 2006, 09:14 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (ElFenrir)Groupies would actually be even wo...   Nov 28 2006, 09:19 PM
- - Digital Heroin   QUOTE (lorechaser @ Nov 28 2006, 07:16 PM) 20...   Nov 28 2006, 09:44 PM
- - ElFenrir   QUOTE I believe that Blandness already exists as ...   Nov 28 2006, 10:36 PM
- - emo samurai   Could you go to the spirit's home plane and ki...   Nov 28 2006, 10:40 PM
- - Grinder   QUOTE (lorechaser) 20 pts: Known to almost everyon...   Nov 28 2006, 10:47 PM
- - ElFenrir   QUOTE Could you go to the spirit's home plane ...   Nov 28 2006, 11:07 PM
- - Lord Ben   QUOTE (Grinder) I would love to see some Deadlands...   Nov 29 2006, 12:34 AM
- - Garrowolf   one quality I thought would be good would be addic...   Nov 29 2006, 07:20 AM
- - Konsaki   Neg Qual Gambling Freak (5/10/15/20) Each month, ...   Nov 29 2006, 08:03 AM
- - Grinder   QUOTE (Lord Ben) QUOTE (Grinder @ Nov 28 2006...   Nov 29 2006, 09:04 AM
- - ElFenrir   QUOTE Gambling Freak (5/10/15/20) Each month, jus...   Nov 29 2006, 01:07 PM
- - lorechaser   QUOTE (ElFenrir) QUOTE Gambling Freak (5/10/15/20)...   Nov 29 2006, 03:15 PM
- - Wakshaani   Distinctive Style (5 BP) You just can't help ...   Nov 29 2006, 04:52 PM
- - lorechaser   I told them that the guy wasn't really there, ...   Nov 29 2006, 05:24 PM
- - Lord Ben   Another version of stepped on toes could be Vengef...   Nov 29 2006, 05:54 PM
- - ElFenrir   Ok, so far, we have listed....(im just cataloging ...   Nov 29 2006, 06:00 PM
- - lorechaser   Indeed. I'm going to go back and make comment...   Nov 29 2006, 06:13 PM
- - ElFenrir   Well, im leaving soon to a show, but when i come b...   Nov 29 2006, 06:38 PM
- - hyzmarca   Not original, but they forgot to port this one ove...   Nov 30 2006, 12:38 AM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (Wakshaani) Stepped on Toes (10 BP) [...] ...   Nov 30 2006, 04:08 AM
- - Wakshaani   QUOTE (Jaid) QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Nov 29 2006, ...   Nov 30 2006, 05:50 AM
- - PlatonicPimp   I've always run enemies as contacts with a neg...   Nov 30 2006, 06:08 AM
- - warrior_allanon   ooh i like that double P, very very cool idea   Nov 30 2006, 05:01 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   Thank you. Never call me that again.   Nov 30 2006, 05:06 PM
- - Wakshaani   QUOTE (PlatonicPimp) Thank you. Never call me that...   Nov 30 2006, 06:00 PM
- - Garrowolf   Well I like the idea of the edge trait being the o...   Dec 1 2006, 08:19 AM
- - Grinder   Today we decided to start a SR4 campaign finally, ...   Jan 26 2007, 12:49 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   All Thumbs 5/10 point flaw. You're just not g...   Jan 26 2007, 02:19 PM
- - Konsaki   Your Pacifist Flaw, ShadowDragon, needs to be a 5/...   Jan 26 2007, 07:46 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Read my Pacifist flaw. I mean really read it. It...   Jan 26 2007, 08:28 PM
- - lorechaser   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) Read my Pacifist flaw. I ...   Jan 26 2007, 09:13 PM
- - djinni   QUOTE (lorechaser) There's no provision includ...   Jan 26 2007, 09:46 PM
- - Konsaki   You have to remember though that the player is get...   Jan 26 2007, 09:53 PM
- - djinni   QUOTE (Konsaki) You have to remember though that t...   Jan 26 2007, 11:26 PM
- - Konsaki   QUOTE (djinni) QUOTE (Konsaki @ Jan 26 2007, ...   Jan 26 2007, 11:40 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Konsaki) QUOTE (djinni @ Jan 27 2007, ...   Jan 26 2007, 11:57 PM
- - Konsaki   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) QUOTE (Konsaki @ Jan...   Jan 27 2007, 12:16 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Or of course, those games you smartly "threw...   Jan 27 2007, 12:17 AM
- - djinni   QUOTE (Konsaki) In my OP for this flaw the player ...   Jan 27 2007, 01:01 AM
- - Konsaki   QUOTE (djinni) QUOTE (Konsaki @ Jan 26 2007, ...   Jan 27 2007, 01:09 AM
- - djinni   QUOTE (Konsaki) What about all those perception ro...   Jan 27 2007, 08:52 AM
- - Kesslan   QUOTE (Grinder) - Brave: mabye gives you bonus Edg...   Jan 27 2007, 09:42 AM
- - warrior_allanon   i actually miss my low level enemies, whats more i...   Jan 27 2007, 05:14 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Kesslan) QUOTE (Grinder @ Jan 25 2007,...   Jan 27 2007, 06:05 PM
- - Nasrudith   Here's an idea. Hatred: 5/10/15/25 The charac...   Jan 30 2007, 02:30 AM
- - lorechaser   QUOTE (Nasrudith) Here's an idea. Hatred: 15/...   Jan 30 2007, 04:21 PM
- - Nasrudith   Okay fixed. I was at first worried it would be too...   Jan 30 2007, 11:53 PM
- - lorechaser   QUOTE (Nasrudith) Okay fixed. I was at first worri...   Jan 31 2007, 02:43 AM
- - TCArknight   Hmmm... a couple I was thinking about (Positive an...   Jan 31 2007, 02:29 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   I don't think another native language is worth...   Jan 31 2007, 04:18 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Well a rating 6 in a language is worth 12BP, so fr...   Jan 31 2007, 04:30 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Consider that Ambidexterity, the positive quality ...   Jan 31 2007, 04:52 PM
- - lorechaser   QUOTE (TCArknight) Hmmm... a couple I was thinking...   Jan 31 2007, 05:53 PM
- - Butterblume   QUOTE (lorechaser)So being illiterate is a small p...   Jan 31 2007, 06:16 PM
- - bibliophile20   I have a positive quality (yes, I know that this i...   Feb 2 2007, 12:34 AM
- - Spike   QUOTE (bibliophile20) I have a positive quality (y...   Feb 2 2007, 01:06 AM
- - djinni   QUOTE (lorechaser) I may be imagining a different ...   Feb 2 2007, 01:47 AM
- - lorechaser   See, I don't think the signs are going to requ...   Feb 2 2007, 03:46 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Reading and writing aren't going to become los...   Feb 2 2007, 05:07 AM
- - lorechaser   If the majority of the SINless can't read and ...   Feb 2 2007, 05:08 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (lorechaser) If the majority of the SINless ...   Feb 2 2007, 05:09 AM
- - lorechaser   To some extent. But they have to get their cheap ...   Feb 2 2007, 04:21 PM
- - ElFenrir   Well, Updated Amnesia quality: Amnesia: 5/10/15/2...   Feb 2 2007, 04:55 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   edit: okay, you mentioned lazy players, I might...   Feb 2 2007, 05:06 PM
- - ElFenrir   Well, Amnesia always has been one of those flaws t...   Feb 2 2007, 05:20 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (ElFenrir) Well, really, the same could be s...   Feb 2 2007, 05:27 PM
- - ElFenrir   I rememeber the old days of Fantasy Role-Playing, ...   Feb 2 2007, 05:48 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Hahaha! Bravo, ElFenrir. Nice explanation.   Feb 2 2007, 05:52 PM
- - Dashifen   Sig!   Feb 2 2007, 07:04 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) So remember, kids, always talk t...   Feb 2 2007, 07:15 PM
- - SoyKaf Adict   I found this topic out of shear coincidence lookin...   Feb 3 2007, 01:20 AM
- - ornot   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) Well a rating 6 in a language is...   Feb 3 2007, 04:20 AM
- - Nasrudith   New Flaw: Street Stupid 10 BP Your character has...   Feb 3 2007, 04:48 AM
- - Omer Joel   Dependent Bonus: 5 or 15 BPs A character with the ...   Feb 3 2007, 09:17 AM
- - ElFenrir   QUOTE The fact that buying a language to 6 cost 12...   Feb 3 2007, 01:40 PM
- - bibliophile20   QUOTE (Omer Joel @ Feb 3 2007, 04:17 AM) Depe...   Feb 3 2007, 09:41 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE 15 BP: Young children, i.e. preteens; a char...   Feb 3 2007, 10:01 PM
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