 Stupid Question, Again on agents |
 Feb 6 2007, 10:25 AM
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In a recent thread this was interpreted as "An independent agent can only interact with a node when it was uploaded to it first." Now the question: How can an independent agent ever hack into a node, when it has to be uploaded to the node first to interact with it? Not as obvious: How can an independent agent ever log onto a node (legally), when it has to be uploaded to the node first to interact with it? (Apart from that there is no reason why an agent shouldnt be able to access other nodes like any other program does, but has to upload itself to the node to do so.) Conclusion: This phrase obviously only means, that the agent acting independently has to run on a node, not on a persona and can access any nodes it wants, just like a normal persona from there. This node can also be a commlink. Comments? |
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Serbitar Stupid Question Feb 6 2007, 10:25 AM
Thanee <jedi mind trick>There are no Agents.</je... Feb 6 2007, 11:17 AM The Jopp Apparently the Agent must be uploaded on node A by... Feb 6 2007, 12:42 PM mintcar Perhaps it's just there to show that agents op... Feb 6 2007, 12:47 PM Aaron I agree with your conclusion, Serbitar. I've a... Feb 6 2007, 01:15 PM Thain If you want your agent to operate in the Matrix in... Feb 6 2007, 02:17 PM Serbitar QUOTE (mintcar) Perhaps it's just there to sho... Feb 6 2007, 02:30 PM Serbitar QUOTE (Thain) If you want your agent to operate in... Feb 6 2007, 02:30 PM Ravor I think they have been, Agents can upload themselv... Feb 6 2007, 04:49 PM Blade There are two ways to use agents :
1) You run the... Feb 6 2007, 05:23 PM Serbitar QUOTE (Ravor)
As for logging on legally, well its... Feb 6 2007, 05:25 PM Serbitar QUOTE (Blade) 2) You load them somewhere (on your ... Feb 6 2007, 05:26 PM Blade QUOTE ("Serbitar")Now the question: How ... Feb 6 2007, 05:40 PM Serbitar If the agent can communicate with the node to hack... Feb 6 2007, 05:52 PM Thain I did answer your questions, albeit indirectly, yo... Feb 6 2007, 05:52 PM FrankTrollman Yeah, of course an Agent can access nodes other th... Feb 6 2007, 05:53 PM Serbitar Well aparently the majority of people out there be... Feb 6 2007, 05:55 PM Thain QUOTE (Serbitar) If the agent can communicate with... Feb 6 2007, 05:59 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Serbitar) Well aparently the majority of pe... Feb 6 2007, 06:01 PM Serbitar QUOTE (Thain) QUOTE (Serbitar @ Feb 6 2007, 1... Feb 6 2007, 06:03 PM mfb yes, exactly--accessing a node != running on a... Feb 6 2007, 06:08 PM Blade QUOTE (Serbitar) Well aparently the majority of pe... Feb 6 2007, 06:09 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Blade) Mostly because SR Matrix is totally ... Feb 6 2007, 06:27 PM Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (Serbitar) Comments?
As the rules for th... Feb 6 2007, 06:30 PM Serbitar QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 6 2007, 07:08 PM) yes, exact... Feb 6 2007, 07:00 PM mfb ah, cool. my bad. Feb 6 2007, 07:19 PM DireRadiant Just for fun...
Agent loaded as part of Hacker Pe... Feb 6 2007, 07:21 PM DireRadiant Agents have Personas? It's just the attributes... Feb 6 2007, 07:22 PM Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (DireRadiant) Agents have Personas?
No, ... Feb 6 2007, 07:35 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (DireRadiant ... Feb 6 2007, 07:42 PM cetiah edit: removed due to improper context Feb 6 2007, 07:49 PM hobgoblin try this on for size then:
a persona is a kind of... Feb 6 2007, 07:52 PM Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (DireRadiant) So if I analyze a Hacker Icon ... Feb 6 2007, 08:07 PM mfb edit: no longer relevant. Feb 6 2007, 08:16 PM FrankTrollman Cetiah, I don't think that particular rant bel... Feb 6 2007, 08:25 PM cetiah removed: due to improper context. Feb 6 2007, 08:26 PM cetiah QUOTE Cetiah, I don't think that particular ra... Feb 6 2007, 08:35 PM cetiah QUOTE (Serbitar @ Feb 6 2007, 05:25 AM) QUOTE... Feb 6 2007, 09:20 PM Serbitar QUOTE (cetiah @ Feb 6 2007, 10:20 PM) A succe... Feb 6 2007, 11:17 PM Pyritefoolsgold QUOTE
Strange, a persona can do exactly that. Wh... Feb 6 2007, 11:32 PM Serbitar No, I decided that there should be an underlying l... Feb 6 2007, 11:37 PM cetiah QUOTE (Serbitar)Where is the agent hacking the nod... Feb 6 2007, 11:37 PM Serbitar QUOTE (cetiah @ Feb 7 2007, 12:37 AM) Concept... Feb 6 2007, 11:43 PM Pyritefoolsgold QUOTE (Serbitar) No, I decided that there should b... Feb 6 2007, 11:54 PM Synner Why don't I suggest that you do something comp... Feb 7 2007, 12:00 AM cetiah QUOTE Nothing against that, but why must it log on... Feb 7 2007, 12:01 AM cetiah QUOTE (Synner @ Feb 6 2007, 07:00 PM) Why don... Feb 7 2007, 12:02 AM Serbitar QUOTE (Synner @ Feb 7 2007, 01:00 AM) Why don... Feb 7 2007, 12:42 AM Serbitar QUOTE (cetiah @ Feb 7 2007, 01:01 AM) QUOTE M... Feb 7 2007, 12:46 AM Pyritefoolsgold QUOTE
If the two paragraphs say that an agent mu... Feb 7 2007, 01:09 AM cetiah QUOTE (Pyritefoolsgold @ Feb 6 2007, 08:09 PM... Feb 7 2007, 01:36 AM Pyritefoolsgold QUOTE (cetiah) QUOTE (Pyritefoolsgold @ Feb 6... Feb 7 2007, 02:23 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Pyritefoolsgold) I have no problem understa... Feb 7 2007, 03:26 AM Blade Ok then, if no one but me wants the official answe... Feb 7 2007, 04:25 AM cetiah QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Feb 6 2007, 10:26 PM) ... Feb 7 2007, 04:49 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (cetiah)
Not interpretation:
It never says... Feb 7 2007, 05:03 AM cetiah QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Feb 7 2007, 12:03 AM) ... Feb 7 2007, 05:14 AM FrankTrollman Your Persona runs on your commlink (unless you... Feb 7 2007, 05:20 AM ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE (cetiah) Theoretically, you could have an ag... Feb 7 2007, 05:23 AM ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE (FrankTrollman) Your Persona runs on your co... Feb 7 2007, 05:25 AM cetiah QUOTE Your Persona runs on your commlink (unless y... Feb 7 2007, 05:32 AM cetiah QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Feb 7 2007, 12:23 A... Feb 7 2007, 07:11 AM Garrowolf I'm starting to think that the problem lies in... Feb 7 2007, 07:48 AM Blade Matrix in the cyberpunk genre is born when the Int... Feb 7 2007, 08:55 AM Garrowolf well I think that the game can be just as fun with... Feb 7 2007, 09:24 AM ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE (Garrowolf) well I think that the game can b... Feb 7 2007, 01:34 PM hobgoblin QUOTE Good. Go play d20 Future. Absoloutely nooooo... Feb 7 2007, 02:35 PM mfb QUOTE (Garrowolf)And I think that keeping a Tron l... Feb 7 2007, 02:54 PM Dashifen QUOTE (cetiah)It never says a different node.... Feb 7 2007, 03:15 PM cetiah QUOTE (Dashifen) QUOTE (cetiah)It never says a dif... Feb 7 2007, 03:45 PM ShadowDragon8685 That's a motion-tracking paintball gun automat... Feb 7 2007, 04:08 PM Serbitar QUOTE (Garrowolf @ Feb 7 2007, 08:48 AM) I... Feb 7 2007, 04:28 PM Dashifen Odd statement, that. I'd rather see handwavin... Feb 7 2007, 05:03 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Dashifen) Separate from your persona doesn... Feb 7 2007, 05:34 PM Dashifen QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Feb 7 2007, 12:34 PM) ... Feb 7 2007, 05:53 PM mfb QUOTE (SR4 page 231)If your persona icon crashes, ... Feb 7 2007, 06:04 PM cetiah QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Feb 7 2007, 12:34 PM) ... Feb 7 2007, 06:15 PM mfb QUOTE (cetiah)Your comlink's node does not cra... Feb 7 2007, 06:18 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Dashifen) QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Feb 7... Feb 7 2007, 06:19 PM Dashifen @mfb: I'm not sure your quote means what you ... Feb 7 2007, 06:20 PM kigmatzomat Hopefully we all agree that agents and hackers sho... Feb 7 2007, 06:28 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (kigmatzomat) Hopefully we all agree that ag... Feb 7 2007, 06:54 PM cetiah QUOTE (FrankTrollman)Well... that's the obviou... Feb 7 2007, 07:26 PM Kiyote QUOTE (kigmatzomat) Remember, agents are legitimat... Feb 7 2007, 07:29 PM Dashifen @Frank
QUOTE (SR4 @ p. 211-212)...It is a c... Feb 7 2007, 07:41 PM cetiah QUOTE (mfb)where in the world are you getting that... Feb 7 2007, 08:15 PM kigmatzomat QUOTE (Kiyote)QUOTE (kigmatzomat) Remember, agents... Feb 7 2007, 08:32 PM Dashifen QUOTE (kigmatzomat) Hmmm, I think I just defined t... Feb 7 2007, 08:40 PM cetiah QUOTE (FrankTrollman)Yes I can.
No, you can't.... Feb 7 2007, 09:04 PM mfb ugh. the insistence of people on accepting the mor... Feb 7 2007, 09:07 PM cetiah QUOTE Okay, no. Accessing a host is different from... Feb 7 2007, 09:13 PM Pyritefoolsgold QUOTE (mfb) ugh. the insistence of people on accep... Feb 7 2007, 09:27 PM mfb yes. which, the way i read it, links personas to t... Feb 7 2007, 09:28 PM cetiah QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 7 2007, 04:28 PM) yes. which... Feb 7 2007, 09:33 PM cetiah QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 7 2007, 04:07 PM) ugh. the i... Feb 7 2007, 09:36 PM mfb oh, gosh! you're right! a persona isn... Feb 7 2007, 09:37 PM Dashifen QUOTE (mfb) yes. which, the way i read it, links p... Feb 7 2007, 09:42 PM cetiah QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 7 2007, 04:37 PM) oh, gosh... Feb 7 2007, 09:49 PM cetiah QUOTE (Dashifen) Am I the only person here who act... Feb 7 2007, 09:51 PM
mfb QUOTE (cetiah)(1)If this were to happen, the comli... Feb 7 2007, 09:58 PM  |
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