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post Feb 9 2007, 12:25 AM
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1. Would I be able to use Decrease Body to decrease my Body attribute to be within range of being able to change into a dog if my body was normally 6.

2. If yes to 1, then would I be able to unsustain the Decrease Body and still be able to maintain the shapechange form of a dog. The body limitation is only to assume the form, it says nothing about once the form is already assumed. It also says the magician can use spells normally. Wouldn't this mean that if I increased my body with a spell while shapechanged, it would most definitely increase with no problems? So would there then be any reason a body increase from unsustaining Decrease Body mess anything up?

3. On the example forms for this spell it lists Eagle form, but eagle critters are not listed under ordinary critters. Would I just use the Thunderbird's stats without the magic and powers? It does say they very closely resemble eagles.

4. What about other animals like Bears, Guerillas, Hawks, Octopus', Squid, Cheetahs, Bats, and other animals?

5. Is there any SR3 reference that lists stats for more ordinary critters?

6. It is obvious that more forms are meant to be able to be used. A very good indicator of this is Eagle form, which is completely missing from the ordinary critters section. If Eagle form is mentioned in the description of the spell but not in the ordinary critters section, wouldn't that then mean ordinary critters not mentioned in the section are allowed? The book doesn't ever say the shapechange spell is exclusive only to those critters in the ordinary critter section. It merely suggests to use it as a reference.

7. Has there been any official word on the shapechange spell in regards to ordinary critters allowed?
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- Eleazar   Using Decrease Attribute with Shapechange   Feb 9 2007, 12:25 AM
- - Dashifen   1. Sure, and it's a good application of the s...   Feb 9 2007, 12:32 AM
- - Eleazar   Response to #4 Critters is an SR3 guide for paracr...   Feb 9 2007, 12:53 AM
- - djinni   QUOTE (Eleazar) 1. Would I be able to use Decrease...   Feb 9 2007, 01:22 AM
- - Eleazar   QUOTE (djinni @ Feb 8 2007, 08:22 PM) QUOTE (...   Feb 9 2007, 01:25 AM
- - Dashifen   Page 19 of the of the critters guide for SR3 has n...   Feb 9 2007, 01:40 AM
- - djinni   QUOTE (Eleazar) The limitation is for the base bod...   Feb 9 2007, 01:47 AM
- - Eleazar   QUOTE (djinni @ Feb 8 2007, 08:47 PM) QUOTE (...   Feb 9 2007, 02:20 AM
- - Eleazar   QUOTE (Dashifen @ Feb 8 2007, 08:40 PM) Page ...   Feb 9 2007, 02:23 AM
- - Thane36425   QUOTE (Eleazar) The bolded part is the limitation...   Feb 9 2007, 02:40 AM
- - djinni   QUOTE (Eleazar) The bolded part is the limitation....   Feb 9 2007, 02:52 AM
- - Eleazar   QUOTE (djinni @ Feb 8 2007, 09:52 PM) QUOTE (...   Feb 9 2007, 02:55 AM
- - djinni   QUOTE (Eleazar @ Feb 8 2007, 09:55 PM) Your n...   Feb 9 2007, 03:03 AM
- - Eleazar   The rules do not say plus the hits. It says the ba...   Feb 9 2007, 03:05 AM
- - djinni   QUOTE (Eleazar @ Feb 8 2007, 10:05 PM) The ru...   Feb 9 2007, 03:07 AM
- - Eleazar   QUOTE (djinni @ Feb 8 2007, 10:07 PM) QUOTE (...   Feb 9 2007, 03:11 AM
- - Dashifen   QUOTE (Eleazar) QUOTE (Dashifen @ Feb 8 2007,...   Feb 9 2007, 03:15 AM
- - Eleazar   One other thing to Djinni, notice how it says in t...   Feb 9 2007, 03:22 AM
- - mfb   i believe that "base attribute" only ref...   Feb 9 2007, 03:31 AM
- - Eleazar   QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 8 2007, 10:31 PM) i believe ...   Feb 9 2007, 04:01 AM
- - mfb   i'm not sure it means the character's natu...   Feb 9 2007, 04:21 AM
- - djinni   QUOTE (mfb) i believe that "base attribute...   Feb 9 2007, 04:36 AM
- - mfb   yes, except that then you're not talking about...   Feb 9 2007, 04:40 AM
- - djinni   QUOTE (mfb) you're talking about the base attr...   Feb 9 2007, 05:54 AM
- - mfb   according to your interpretation? yeah. that's...   Feb 9 2007, 07:09 AM
- - Garrowolf   There is sort of an answer to what they intended i...   Feb 9 2007, 09:38 AM
- - Eryk the Red   I don't worry about it too much because no one...   Feb 9 2007, 02:38 PM
- - Eleazar   Actually the first quote helps out by stating it i...   Feb 9 2007, 05:29 PM
- - Cheops   You have to be within 2 body points of the natural...   Feb 9 2007, 06:00 PM
- - Eleazar   Yes, but is there a great white shark form. A grea...   Feb 9 2007, 06:43 PM
- - Glyph   The limited stats given for ordinary critters in S...   Feb 10 2007, 03:15 AM
- - vladski   QUOTE (Cheops)You have to be within 2 body points ...   Feb 10 2007, 08:48 AM
- - Eleazar   QUOTE (vladski) Furthermore, we take those base ph...   Feb 10 2007, 10:02 PM
- - vladski   QUOTE (Eleazar)The rest of you post is very agreea...   Feb 11 2007, 02:33 AM
- - Cheops   I've had a player in my game turn into a Sparr...   Feb 14 2007, 12:58 AM


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