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Eleazar
post Feb 11 2007, 04:41 AM
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Shadowrun seems to have some problems when it comes to the future and what would actually be around in the year 2070. I am going to name a few things that just don't make sense to me and would like to hear what you think.

Why are there still combustion engines that use gasoline?

Where are the future fuel sources?

Why do guns work almost exactly work the way they do today?

Why is friendly fire something I even have to worry about when using suppressive fire?

Why aren't guns electrically propelling the bullet with magnetic force?

Why are bullets and magazines still used in guns?

Where are the energy weapons like rail-guns and plasma rifles?

Why are there nuclear waste and toxic places like Glow City when we are on the verge of finding ways to reliably remove it ourselves?

Where are the forcefields and teleportation devices?

Where is all the cool SCIFI stuff that I can't think of right now, but would be here in 2070?
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- Eleazar   SR4 is too modern or near modern sometimes   Feb 11 2007, 04:41 AM
- - StealthBanana   Dude, you're playing the wrong game. The tech...   Feb 11 2007, 04:54 AM
- - Draug   I ain't no Shadowrun Expert(tm), but here goes...   Feb 11 2007, 05:03 AM
- - Thain   Why are there still combustion engines that use ga...   Feb 11 2007, 05:12 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   1) same reason I still drive an '85? There are...   Feb 11 2007, 05:14 AM
- - Garrowolf   There is a new technology that is just starting ou...   Feb 11 2007, 06:07 AM
- - Backgammon   SR is dystiopia. All the advances that make things...   Feb 11 2007, 06:08 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Thain)Where are the future fuel sources? ...   Feb 11 2007, 06:12 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   As people have mentioned, rail guns are definitely...   Feb 11 2007, 09:48 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Eleazar @ Feb 11 2007, 04:41 AM) Shado...   Feb 11 2007, 10:11 AM
- - Blade   Don't forget about the 29 Crash... A lot of sc...   Feb 11 2007, 01:12 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Blade @ Feb 11 2007, 01:12 PM) Don...   Feb 11 2007, 01:44 PM
- - Thanee   QUOTE (Eleazar) Where is all the cool SCIFI stuff ...   Feb 11 2007, 02:02 PM
- - Eleazar   Thanks for the answers, everyone.   Feb 11 2007, 08:39 PM
- - Thane36425   QUOTE (knasser) QUOTE (Eleazar @ Feb 11 2007,...   Feb 11 2007, 09:37 PM
- - WhiskeyMac   The Sakura Fubuki fires electronically doesn't...   Feb 11 2007, 09:56 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   The Sakura Fubuki, being very heavily based on rea...   Feb 11 2007, 10:16 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Thane36425)Rail guns do exist in Sr, but th...   Feb 11 2007, 11:40 PM
- - Thane36425   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) ...in the original Rigger Black...   Feb 12 2007, 01:07 AM
- - ornot   I can't really add anything to what has alread...   Feb 12 2007, 02:02 AM
- - Thane36425   QUOTE (ornot) The question of why so many synthet...   Feb 12 2007, 02:14 AM
- - Strobe   Maybe there is a small group of awakened farmers w...   Feb 12 2007, 02:19 AM
- - ornot   QUOTE (Thane36425) Food is probably mostly soy and...   Feb 12 2007, 02:25 AM
- - Thane36425   QUOTE (Strobe) Maybe there is a small group of awa...   Feb 12 2007, 02:26 AM
- - Thane36425   QUOTE (ornot) Hehe. That reminds me of Transmetro...   Feb 12 2007, 02:27 AM
- - Jack Kain   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) The Sakura Fubuki, bei...   Feb 12 2007, 08:24 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Jack Kain)Converting it into something like...   Feb 12 2007, 09:05 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)I was pointing out that...   Feb 12 2007, 09:24 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   EMP might be able to fry the circuits of the weapo...   Feb 12 2007, 09:32 AM
- - Oracle   QUOTE (knasser @ Feb 11 2007, 12:11 PM) QUOTE...   Feb 12 2007, 01:22 PM
- - Thanee   QUOTE (Oracle) I don't think so. Of course...   Feb 12 2007, 01:31 PM
- - cristomeyers   You know, that doesn't sound like such a bad i...   Feb 12 2007, 01:41 PM
- - Eleazar   Yes, through bacteria and also some other means I ...   Feb 12 2007, 02:29 PM
- - Ed_209a   March 07 Pop Science covers a machine that uses a ...   Feb 12 2007, 02:29 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (cristomeyers)You know, that doesn't sou...   Feb 12 2007, 02:35 PM
- - Ed_209a   That same article from Pop Sci said that toxic was...   Feb 12 2007, 02:40 PM
- - cristomeyers   QUOTE So what's the cost per pound of payload ...   Feb 12 2007, 02:59 PM
- - Spike   As I understand it, those furnace things to cook g...   Feb 12 2007, 05:11 PM
- - Eleazar   Here are two articles but there other groups other...   Feb 12 2007, 09:08 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (ornot)I can't really add anything to wh...   Feb 12 2007, 09:28 PM
- - Spike   Just a comment on Hydrogen power and internal comb...   Feb 12 2007, 09:48 PM
- - Garrowolf   If you are wanting to get rid of garbage then go t...   Feb 13 2007, 04:56 AM
- - bibliophile20   QUOTE (Spike) Just a comment on Hydrogen power and...   Feb 13 2007, 05:28 AM
- - Garrowolf   Just take the engine out and use paranormal hamste...   Feb 13 2007, 05:37 AM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Garrowolf) Just take the engine out and use...   Feb 13 2007, 06:29 AM
- - Spike   Sure you can. Note you need a liquid state hydroge...   Feb 13 2007, 06:35 AM
- - Oracle   QUOTE (Eleazar) All of these methods would be cons...   Feb 13 2007, 07:38 AM
- - Crakkerjakk   Okay, not the same thing you guys are talking abou...   Feb 13 2007, 08:30 AM
- - eidolon   I'm almost finished with the issue of Pop Sci,...   Feb 13 2007, 02:42 PM
- - Faelan   I can think of several problems with liquid hydrog...   Feb 13 2007, 05:08 PM
- - Spike   Spoilsport! Those are all relatively minor...   Feb 13 2007, 05:21 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   I think realistically the main problem with hydrog...   Feb 13 2007, 06:17 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk) Plus the amount of money that ...   Feb 13 2007, 06:25 PM
- - Spike   QUOTE (cetiah) I always assumed that the local m...   Feb 13 2007, 06:28 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   The difference, Captain smartypants, is that the o...   Feb 13 2007, 06:41 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Spike) QUOTE (cetiah @ Feb 13 2007, 10...   Feb 13 2007, 06:44 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk) Start up costs are a bitch. ...   Feb 13 2007, 06:46 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Spike @ Feb 13 2007, 12:21 PM) As for ...   Feb 13 2007, 06:52 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   Perhaps we're argueing about different things....   Feb 13 2007, 06:57 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk) Perhaps we're argueing abo...   Feb 13 2007, 07:08 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   Also, Cetiah, if we're talking far future powe...   Feb 13 2007, 07:14 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk @ Feb 13 2007, 02:14 PM) A...   Feb 13 2007, 07:18 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   Fusion=good, if we can get it working. But I was ...   Feb 13 2007, 07:27 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk) In my FutureLand(tm), there ar...   Feb 13 2007, 07:30 PM
- - azrael_ven   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)QUOTE (cristomeyers)You...   Feb 13 2007, 07:31 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk @ Feb 13 2007, 02:27 PM) F...   Feb 13 2007, 07:31 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   I just got the giggles imagining small, highly com...   Feb 13 2007, 07:33 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk @ Feb 13 2007, 02:33 PM) I...   Feb 13 2007, 07:35 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk) I just got the giggles imagini...   Feb 13 2007, 07:37 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   Well, even reactors with lax security are very har...   Feb 13 2007, 07:37 PM
- - Faelan   My whole point comes down to one question. Why wo...   Feb 13 2007, 07:42 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk @ Feb 13 2007, 02:37 PM) W...   Feb 13 2007, 07:44 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Faelan @ Feb 13 2007, 02:42 PM) My who...   Feb 13 2007, 07:59 PM
- - Spike   The problem with biodiesel is not that it doesn...   Feb 13 2007, 08:12 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk) I just got the giggles imagini...   Feb 13 2007, 08:14 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (kzt @ Feb 13 2007, 03:14 PM) QUOTE (Cr...   Feb 13 2007, 08:16 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE ("Wikipedia")Homemade biodiesel pr...   Feb 13 2007, 08:30 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   I still remember when a propane storage facility(o...   Feb 13 2007, 08:39 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Forget Biodiesel. It's kinda agressive to the ...   Feb 13 2007, 08:44 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk @ Feb 13 2007, 03:39 PM) A...   Feb 13 2007, 08:50 PM
- - cetiah   Okay, I just found out about the biodiesel algae f...   Feb 13 2007, 09:08 PM
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- - hyzmarca   What we really need to do is set up a dyson sphere...   Feb 13 2007, 09:19 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Feb 13 2007, 04:19 PM) What...   Feb 13 2007, 09:23 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   I agree that biofuels are energy innefficient. I...   Feb 13 2007, 09:28 PM
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- - Spike   How biofuel is made from biomatter isn't much ...   Feb 13 2007, 09:48 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   I'm not clear on the specifics, but as I under...   Feb 13 2007, 10:00 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk) One thing I never understood. ...   Feb 13 2007, 10:06 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (cetiah @ Fe...   Feb 13 2007, 10:09 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   Well, you don't want planets near Dyson Sphere...   Feb 13 2007, 10:13 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Spike @ Feb 13 2007, 04:48 PM) Me? I...   Feb 13 2007, 10:16 PM
- - Spike   Crakker, Cities already alter wind patterns, and...   Feb 13 2007, 10:19 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk) It's not that we can't...   Feb 13 2007, 10:21 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   QUOTE The beam has no atmospheric effects. As far ...   Feb 13 2007, 10:22 PM
- - Butterblume   QUOTE (cetiah)But researchers at MIT are working o...   Feb 13 2007, 10:22 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Spike)Just a comment on Hydrogen power and ...   Feb 13 2007, 10:23 PM
- - Butterblume   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk)What I was asking is turbines s...   Feb 13 2007, 10:27 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   *Shrugs* Nature of capitalism. And in my opinion...   Feb 13 2007, 10:29 PM
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