 A starting character rolling 16 dice? |
 May 15 2007, 06:47 PM
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So in less then a month I am going to try and run my 1st shadowrun game. But from what I have read, having around 8 dice seems typical for starting characters on actions they are good at.
Problem is most of the players I have in my group have really min/maxxed everything so they have around 16 dice, with one saying he should have 25 dice on a magic check to mind control people. Using the rule of 4 dice being a hit, it appears to me that they won't have to roll for almost anything they do in those area's. My guess is we are reading the rules wrong. What do you think? Thanks for your help. |
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Dayhawk A starting character rolling 16 dice? May 15 2007, 06:47 PM
X-Kalibur Actually, I'd say 10-12 dice is average for a ... May 15 2007, 06:55 PM Demerzel It also depends a lot on the pool you're refer... May 15 2007, 07:01 PM Unarmed Yeah, it's really easy to make an elven social... May 15 2007, 07:04 PM ornot Are you using standard 400BP character creation ru... May 15 2007, 07:04 PM deek First thing I would say is don't allow the rul... May 15 2007, 07:23 PM fool just force them to use skills that aren't maxe... May 15 2007, 07:24 PM Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (deek) First thing I would say is don't ... May 15 2007, 07:28 PM odinson Or give them a job where they need to hit two targ... May 15 2007, 07:31 PM Dayhawk Thanks for the suggestions. I think I will do the ... May 15 2007, 07:43 PM Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (Dayhawk) I think I will do the dice cap to ... May 15 2007, 07:45 PM Dayhawk noob here, I must had missed where the caps were l... May 15 2007, 07:49 PM deek QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (deek @ May ... May 15 2007, 07:51 PM Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (deek) True...but you still have to designat... May 15 2007, 08:06 PM Demerzel QUOTE (Dayhawk) Thus all his physical are 1's.... May 15 2007, 08:12 PM Shadow In the BBB it says-
QUOTE (SR4 pg. 55)Buying Hits... May 15 2007, 08:15 PM Dayhawk So from what it sounds like, I should only allow 4... May 15 2007, 08:15 PM WhiskeyMac Hey, if he wants to be a dog, let him. Just let hi... May 15 2007, 08:15 PM Demerzel That spellcasting focus is not availiable at chara... May 15 2007, 08:17 PM Shadow Another thing you can do is only have edge refresh... May 15 2007, 08:18 PM Kyoto Kid ...letsee: KK with Blades 6 (specialised in Katan... May 15 2007, 08:19 PM Demerzel You also should not be able to use edge more than ... May 15 2007, 08:20 PM WhiskeyMac So just for Magic and Edge ability he's spent ... May 15 2007, 08:20 PM Dayhawk QUOTE (Demerzel) That spellcasting focus is not av... May 15 2007, 08:22 PM Shadow QUOTE (Demerzel) You also should not be able to us... May 15 2007, 08:22 PM Demerzel Mac, keep in mind he didn't spend any build po... May 15 2007, 08:22 PM Demerzel QUOTE (Shadow) QUOTE (Demerzel @ May 15 2007,... May 15 2007, 08:23 PM Moon-Hawk My rule is: if taking the time to stop and roll di... May 15 2007, 08:25 PM Leehouse The attributes have the maximum normal caps and au... May 15 2007, 08:26 PM Dayhawk QUOTE (WhiskeyMac) Hey, if he wants to be a dog, l... May 15 2007, 08:26 PM Demerzel I think he was implying that if he wanted to be a ... May 15 2007, 08:28 PM Moon-Hawk Sounds like a general disconnect between that this... May 15 2007, 08:30 PM Kyoto Kid ...on the average, I have found actually rolling m... May 15 2007, 08:35 PM Dayhawk I don't really have a problem with him being i... May 15 2007, 08:35 PM Demerzel For times when a player uses edge it should not be... May 15 2007, 08:39 PM deek I agree with Moon-hawk on the way he uses the 4:1 ... May 15 2007, 08:41 PM Dayhawk I see. Well this has been very helpful.
Thank you... May 15 2007, 08:46 PM deek QUOTE (Dayhawk) I see. Well this has been very hel... May 15 2007, 08:49 PM Nocturne I might also point out the fun you can have with t... May 15 2007, 09:09 PM odinson let him shapechange into a dog. first thing the op... May 15 2007, 09:34 PM Dayhawk You know the counter-spelling thing is a good poin... May 15 2007, 09:52 PM Leehouse Also since equipment doesn't change forms woul... May 15 2007, 10:00 PM Quix Has there been any requirement as to what a focus ... May 15 2007, 10:05 PM Shadow Really I mean the dog thing isn't going to get... May 15 2007, 10:07 PM Demerzel The focus won't transform, but you could proba... May 15 2007, 10:11 PM Demerzel QUOTE (Shadow) Really I mean the dog thing isn... May 15 2007, 10:14 PM Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (Shadow) I take this to mean that you cannot... May 15 2007, 10:23 PM Nocturne QUOTE (Demerzel) QUOTE (Shadow @ May 15 2007,... May 15 2007, 10:27 PM Cheops In my experience with the Shapechange spell it is ... May 15 2007, 10:33 PM Demerzel QUOTE (Nocturne) Sure, if he throws it at force 10... May 15 2007, 10:45 PM Leehouse I personally would apply augmented maximums to ani... May 15 2007, 10:59 PM laughingowl Agree with Leehouse on caps.
That helps limit.
A... May 15 2007, 11:04 PM ornot As shapechange is a sustained spell it will at the... May 15 2007, 11:44 PM Nocturne QUOTE (Demerzel) Using edge on the roll affects th... May 15 2007, 11:48 PM Leehouse I don't know about other groups, but in genera... May 16 2007, 12:05 AM Jaid the dog also won't have any armor. so any time... May 16 2007, 12:19 AM Demerzel QUOTE (Nocturne) QUOTE (Demerzel @ May 15 200... May 16 2007, 12:20 AM Demerzel QUOTE (Jaid) no armor means no inexpensive element... May 16 2007, 12:22 AM eidolon QUOTE (Dayhawk) Problem is most of the players I h... May 16 2007, 12:26 AM Demerzel I believe that you can convert munchkins to better... May 16 2007, 01:26 AM WearzManySkins Well in a Science Fiction game I ran as a GM, the ... May 16 2007, 01:36 AM Jaid QUOTE (Demerzel @ May 15 2007, 07:22 PM) QUOT... May 16 2007, 02:30 AM Glyph On the subject of "high" dice pools, the... May 16 2007, 02:39 AM Narmio First things first, for shapechange specialists yo... May 16 2007, 02:55 AM Jaid QUOTE (Narmio) First things first, for shapechange... May 16 2007, 03:20 AM WhiskeyMac Well, as GM I wouldn't really bother about the... May 16 2007, 03:58 AM Konsaki Now here's a question: Does the body revert to... May 16 2007, 04:05 AM silentmaster101 or alternatively, you could just have an opposing ... May 16 2007, 04:13 AM hyzmarca Does a human who pretends to be a Labrador all day... May 16 2007, 04:37 AM Sterling I think people have covered the rules aspect prett... May 16 2007, 07:44 AM toturi QUOTE (Sterling) I think people have covered the r... May 16 2007, 08:45 AM odinson He should shape change into a monkey. that way he ... May 16 2007, 08:53 AM toturi QUOTE (odinson) He should shape change into a monk... May 16 2007, 09:10 AM ElFenrir Well, believe it or not, i found one way to transf... May 16 2007, 01:03 PM deek QUOTE (ElFenrir) Well, believe it or not, i found ... May 16 2007, 01:18 PM ElFenrir QUOTE As to skill caps, we actually didn't imp... May 16 2007, 01:33 PM Dayhawk Well these turned out to be some great idea's.... May 16 2007, 03:28 PM Shadow You can't have more successus than the force o... May 16 2007, 03:30 PM Dayhawk That is what I was missing!!!!
No... May 16 2007, 03:51 PM Demerzel QUOTE (SR4 p.174)The hits scored on the Spellcasti... May 16 2007, 04:09 PM Unarmed QUOTE (ElFenrir) This is definately the one thing ... May 16 2007, 05:14 PM Demon_Bob QUOTE (Sterling) Fourth, there's other dogs.
... May 16 2007, 09:06 PM Demon_Bob QUOTE (Demerzel @ May 15 2007, 02:39 PM) The ... May 16 2007, 09:29 PM Dayhawk So I have been reading the rules again because eve... May 16 2007, 10:06 PM Leehouse QUOTE (Demon_Bob)
Can't remember if Shapechan... May 16 2007, 10:08 PM Demon_Bob Need to read book first instead of replying then e... May 16 2007, 10:18 PM Rione @ Dayhawk: When rolls like the one you described c... May 16 2007, 10:26 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (Dayhawk @ May 16 2007, 05:06 PM) So I ... May 16 2007, 10:27 PM Konsaki Negative dicepool mods are a GM's best friend,... May 16 2007, 10:31 PM Spike Additionally: Succeeding at banging a 'not in ... May 16 2007, 11:38 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Spike) Additionally: Succeeding at banging ... May 17 2007, 01:10 AM mfb edit: never mind. i am so not getting into this ag... May 17 2007, 01:40 AM toturi QUOTE (DireRadiant) When you roll 16 dice, it... May 17 2007, 02:13 AM Demerzel QUOTE (Dayhawk @ May 16 2007, 03:06 PM) So sa... May 17 2007, 03:01 AM Shadow I think the key word is "If the game master a... May 17 2007, 03:20 AM toturi QUOTE (Shadow) I think the key word is "If th... May 17 2007, 03:28 AM Konsaki The BBB is only optional to the GM though... May 17 2007, 03:32 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Shadow) I think the key word is "If th... May 17 2007, 05:04 AM toturi QUOTE (Konsaki) The BBB is only optional to the GM... May 17 2007, 01:49 PM
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