Jul 17 2007, 03:19 AM
Post
#1
|
|
|
Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 79 Joined: 11-July 07 Member No.: 12,214 |
Well, I'd like to open by saying this is my first post on these forums, I've spent the past week or so reading through posts and conversations in these forums and have learned a lot from it, so the point of this post is really to clarify some points that I haven't quite understood, and to get some advice from veteran Shadowrunners. I played the sega, and the super nintendo games, as well have run a few short sessions with second edition in the past, but primarily I have been an D&D nerd, as well this would be my first foray into GMing a campaign.
so, without any further yammering: 1 - how do Dragons in SR compare to Dragons in D&D, it seems to me that they're more prominent in everyday life, and they have more of a hand in political and corporate affairs, but would you consider them to be as dangerous as their D&D counterparts, and what would be involved in negotiating with one. 2 - The Players guide and GM Screen are obviously a vital part of a GM's arsenal, but I'm having difficulty in deciding which other guides would be good to read and have around as a major resource, Mr. Johnson's little black book has been recommended a few times I've noticed, but the pickings for 4th edition seem to be pretty slim right now and I'm not sure what else I need now, and what can wait. 3 - In comparing Earth, the Matrix, and the Astral World, could they best be seen as 3 dimensional layers? In that, each layer represents a different view of a simultanious reality. for example, within the astral world, would the world you see bear any resemblance to the world your physical form resides in? As for the Matrix if you subscribed to a node and went full VR, then from that node connected to a node inside a building nearby, would your Icon be considered as traveling to that node to read its information and having to travel back to your originating node in order to read the originating node's information, or would it be more akin to making a copy and you could access the information on both nodes simultaiously? 4 - In a typical legal battle, which would take presidence, corporate laws or national laws? does it depend on the location, who your SIN was registered with, or is it a simple tiered ladder? 5 - In what way does religion exist in SR, I have seen few, if any references to Christianity, Judaism, or Muslim beliefs, do these religions still exist, and how powerful would their presence be? 6 - In 4th edition, would cyberdecks and equivelant 3rd edition gear be usable with the current matrix? I would assume it would require a hardware connection, but would it be effective in combatting current IC and traversing the wireless web with hardware access to a wireless node? Thats all I can think of right now, any other suggestions you may have would be welcome and appreciated |
|
|
|
fatal2ty The art of shadowrunning Jul 17 2007, 03:19 AM
Fix-it 1: They aren't in everyday life. consider them... Jul 17 2007, 03:33 AM
Talia Invierno First of all, fatal2ty, welcome both to the forums... Jul 17 2007, 03:43 AM
BookWyrm I think I might be able to help, I myself being a ... Jul 17 2007, 03:49 AM
coolgrafix QUOTE 1 - how do Dragons in SR compare to Dragons ... Jul 17 2007, 03:54 AM
sunnyside 1. Ok the big big difference in SR vs D&D is ... Jul 17 2007, 03:59 AM
Solomon Greene QUOTE how do Dragons in SR compare to Dragons in D... Jul 17 2007, 04:07 AM
fatal2ty So summing up #1 could safely be "SR Dragons ... Jul 17 2007, 04:13 AM
Solomon Greene Firstly:
QUOTE Again, let me pimp the Sprawl Surv... Jul 17 2007, 04:19 AM
Fix-it corporate territory starts when you walk onto thie... Jul 17 2007, 04:22 AM
coolgrafix QUOTE Or is there a distance limitation for your c... Jul 17 2007, 04:23 AM
Talia Invierno QUOTE To add to #2, are there any good canon books... Jul 17 2007, 04:27 AM
Fix-it QUOTE (coolgrafix) While on-site, you are under Re... Jul 17 2007, 04:28 AM
sunnyside Elaborating on the matrix. I wouldn't think ... Jul 17 2007, 04:32 AM
fatal2ty ok, heres another thought I just had, IRL I live i... Jul 17 2007, 04:36 AM
Talia Invierno Oh, and the police themselves are a corporation. ... Jul 17 2007, 04:36 AM
Fix-it QUOTE (fatal2ty) ok, heres another thought I just ... Jul 17 2007, 04:38 AM
fatal2ty I love torrents, i'm now in possession of all ... Jul 17 2007, 04:58 AM
bibliophile20 1. If you're interested in Shadowrun dragons, ... Jul 17 2007, 05:03 AM
Talia Invierno *cough* I'm posting off a Pentium III. The s... Jul 17 2007, 05:38 AM
bibliophile20 Sorry. *sheepish smile* Perhaps a Pentium II would... Jul 17 2007, 06:11 AM
Talia Invierno And then there's the 486 in the background (t... Jul 17 2007, 06:38 AM
Synner667 Hi,
First off, welcome to the SR throng - I hope ... Jul 17 2007, 06:42 AM
bclements QUOTE (bibliophile20 @ Jul 17 2007, 01:11 AM)... Jul 17 2007, 06:58 AM
knasser QUOTE (fatal2ty) So summing up #1 could safely be ... Jul 17 2007, 07:24 AM
Talia Invierno @ bclements:
Hey, it's not that bad! And... Jul 17 2007, 07:47 AM
Particle_Beam Even with the twist fate power, they're still ... Jul 17 2007, 08:13 AM
Talia Invierno Power creep -- before?
Before, when you could onl... Jul 17 2007, 08:25 AM
Particle_Beam Dumpshock-users do not represent the majority (nor... Jul 17 2007, 08:38 AM
Ravor Besides, I get the feeling that many of the ... Jul 17 2007, 02:03 PM
coolgrafix Dude, are you reading the same rules and canon mat... Jul 17 2007, 02:37 PM
hyzmarca QUOTE (knasser) There's a lot of dragon worshi... Jul 17 2007, 03:53 PM
Jaid to clear up a few misconceptions:
1) not all drag... Jul 17 2007, 03:58 PM
bibliophile20 QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 17 2007, 11:58 AM) to clear... Jul 17 2007, 04:00 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (Jaid) to clear up a few misconceptions:
1)... Jul 17 2007, 04:02 PM
coolgrafix Did I mention Hardened Armor of 20+ ? For referenc... Jul 17 2007, 04:06 PM
Jaid hmmm... obviously they've changed stuff then, ... Jul 17 2007, 04:25 PM
Solomon Greene Sorry, man, dragons have always been magical.
The... Jul 17 2007, 04:29 PM
coolgrafix To make this point even more clear (please accept ... Jul 17 2007, 04:32 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (Jaid) as for your hardened armor 20 nonsens... Jul 17 2007, 04:35 PM
Jaid the most powerful rocket in the book can go throug... Jul 17 2007, 04:36 PM
Jaid QUOTE (coolgrafix) QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 17 2007,... Jul 17 2007, 04:39 PM
hyzmarca They always had the Sorcery Power. The Magician Qu... Jul 17 2007, 04:40 PM
Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (BookWyrm) Oh yes, they are as dangerous as ... Jul 17 2007, 04:41 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (Jaid) hmmm... obviously they've changed... Jul 17 2007, 04:42 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (hyzmarca) They always had the Sorcery Power... Jul 17 2007, 04:44 PM
jklst14 QUOTE (fatal2ty)I love torrents, i'm now in po... Jul 17 2007, 04:46 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 17 2007, 11:39 AM) dragons.... Jul 17 2007, 05:04 PM
Jaid QUOTE (coolgrafix) QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 17 2007,... Jul 17 2007, 05:16 PM
coolgrafix Pretty sure you have this wrong. AP only matters f... Jul 17 2007, 05:31 PM
Nerf'd QUOTE (Jaid) QUOTE (coolgrafix @ Jul 17 2007,... Jul 17 2007, 05:42 PM
Moon-Hawk QUOTE (Nerf'd) That being said, it would make ... Jul 17 2007, 05:45 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (Nerf'd @ Jul 17 2007, 12:42 PM) Th... Jul 17 2007, 05:45 PM
Moon-Hawk QUOTE (coolgrafix) Edit: Doh! Moon beat me to ... Jul 17 2007, 05:51 PM
Large Mike Point 1: Everybody chill a little, okay? All this... Jul 17 2007, 05:53 PM
Nerf'd QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) QUOTE (Nerf'd @ Jul 17 ... Jul 17 2007, 05:56 PM
DireRadiant QUOTE (Talia Invierno) There will also be a vehicl... Jul 17 2007, 06:05 PM
Jaid you know, toxins can be toxic to all sorts of crea... Jul 17 2007, 06:06 PM
Kyoto Kid QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)QUOTE (Nerf'd @ Jul 17 2... Jul 17 2007, 06:07 PM
FrankTrollman Sigh. Misconceptions abound.
QUOTE Sorry, man, d... Jul 17 2007, 06:11 PM
Jaid out of curiosity, anyone familiar with ED around w... Jul 17 2007, 06:14 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (Jaid) You know, toxins can be toxic to all ... Jul 17 2007, 06:17 PM
Nerf'd Yes, toxins meant for rodents/other animals WILL w... Jul 17 2007, 06:25 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (FrankTrollman) QUOTE As I pointed out earli... Jul 17 2007, 06:26 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (FrankTrollman) Yes, you can kill a great dr... Jul 17 2007, 06:32 PM
Particle_Beam Wasn't there some Great Dragon in Germany who ... Jul 17 2007, 06:38 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (Particle_Beam) Wasn't there some Great ... Jul 17 2007, 06:46 PM
James McMurray Great Dragons aren't impossible to kill. Dunke... Jul 17 2007, 06:51 PM
Particle_Beam No, I do remember people talking about another Gre... Jul 17 2007, 06:54 PM
knasser QUOTE (coolgrafix)
I love you, dude, but you are ... Jul 17 2007, 06:59 PM
Kyoto Kid ...a couple things to remember before grabbing you... Jul 17 2007, 07:01 PM
FrankTrollman Actually, quoting the Dragon's twist fate brin... Jul 17 2007, 07:08 PM
Large Mike QUOTE (Jaid)out of curiosity, anyone familiar with... Jul 17 2007, 07:15 PM
FriendoftheDork QUOTE (coolgrafix) [QUOTE=Jaid,Jul 17 2007, 11:39 ... Jul 17 2007, 07:20 PM
Particle_Beam FrankTrollman already clarified on coolgrafix... Jul 17 2007, 07:35 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (Particle_Beam) FrankTrollman already clarif... Jul 17 2007, 08:03 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (FrankTrollman) Actually, quoting the Dragon... Jul 17 2007, 08:06 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (FrankTrollman) Eggshells with hammers on ev... Jul 17 2007, 08:09 PM
Solomon Greene QUOTE (knasser) dragons don't survive because ... Jul 17 2007, 08:13 PM
hyzmarca QUOTE (coolgrafix @ Jul 17 2007, 11:44 AM) QU... Jul 17 2007, 08:49 PM
Kyoto Kid QUOTE (FrankTrollman)Actually, quoting the Dragon... Jul 17 2007, 09:05 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (hyzmarca) Dzitbalchen was ritually executed... Jul 17 2007, 09:14 PM
kzt QUOTE (Jaid) now granted, i would want a *lot* of ... Jul 17 2007, 09:16 PM
knasser QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Jul 17 2007, 09:05 PM) Tru... Jul 17 2007, 09:28 PM
knasser QUOTE (kzt) The Armor spell the dragon had kind of... Jul 17 2007, 09:31 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (knasser) The original question was about dr... Jul 17 2007, 09:42 PM
hyzmarca QUOTE (coolgrafix) QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Jul 17 2... Jul 17 2007, 11:17 PM
coolgrafix QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Jul 17 2007, 06:17 PM) Runn... Jul 17 2007, 11:44 PM
Jaid i believe there is also a great dragon that was (p... Jul 18 2007, 12:24 AM
ronin3338 QUOTE (fatal2ty) 1 - how do Dragons in SR compare ... Jul 18 2007, 01:42 AM
Protector152 Jaid, i don't know much about ED but i do have... Jul 19 2007, 04:21 AM
Moon-Hawk QUOTE (Protector152) oh and Dragons CAN become Gre... Jul 19 2007, 03:05 PM
Talia Invierno In downtime, the dragons are understood to have be... Jul 19 2007, 11:27 PM
laughingowl A couple of notes:
Dragons = Magician.
QUOTE (ma... Jul 20 2007, 01:29 AM
Particle_Beam And of course, dragons who are all so proud of bei... Jul 20 2007, 01:36 AM
James McMurray QUOTE (Particle_Beam) And of course, dragons who a... Jul 20 2007, 01:49 AM
Zatoichi QUOTE (Talia Invierno) In downtime, the dragons ar... Jul 20 2007, 04:17 AM
Talia Invierno And yet we are faced with the time differential me... Jul 20 2007, 05:29 AM
knasser "Sleep learning" takes away from my two ... Jul 20 2007, 07:10 AM
Critias I've never been a big dracophile (precisely be... Jul 20 2007, 07:33 AM![]() ![]() |
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 20th November 2025 - 10:31 PM |
Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.