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fatal2ty
post Jul 17 2007, 03:19 AM
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Well, I'd like to open by saying this is my first post on these forums, I've spent the past week or so reading through posts and conversations in these forums and have learned a lot from it, so the point of this post is really to clarify some points that I haven't quite understood, and to get some advice from veteran Shadowrunners. I played the sega, and the super nintendo games, as well have run a few short sessions with second edition in the past, but primarily I have been an D&D nerd, as well this would be my first foray into GMing a campaign.

so, without any further yammering:

1 - how do Dragons in SR compare to Dragons in D&D, it seems to me that they're more prominent in everyday life, and they have more of a hand in political and corporate affairs, but would you consider them to be as dangerous as their D&D counterparts, and what would be involved in negotiating with one.

2 - The Players guide and GM Screen are obviously a vital part of a GM's arsenal, but I'm having difficulty in deciding which other guides would be good to read and have around as a major resource, Mr. Johnson's little black book has been recommended a few times I've noticed, but the pickings for 4th edition seem to be pretty slim right now and I'm not sure what else I need now, and what can wait.

3 - In comparing Earth, the Matrix, and the Astral World, could they best be seen as 3 dimensional layers? In that, each layer represents a different view of a simultanious reality. for example, within the astral world, would the world you see bear any resemblance to the world your physical form resides in? As for the Matrix if you subscribed to a node and went full VR, then from that node connected to a node inside a building nearby, would your Icon be considered as traveling to that node to read its information and having to travel back to your originating node in order to read the originating node's information, or would it be more akin to making a copy and you could access the information on both nodes simultaiously?

4 - In a typical legal battle, which would take presidence, corporate laws or national laws? does it depend on the location, who your SIN was registered with, or is it a simple tiered ladder?

5 - In what way does religion exist in SR, I have seen few, if any references to Christianity, Judaism, or Muslim beliefs, do these religions still exist, and how powerful would their presence be?

6 - In 4th edition, would cyberdecks and equivelant 3rd edition gear be usable with the current matrix? I would assume it would require a hardware connection, but would it be effective in combatting current IC and traversing the wireless web with hardware access to a wireless node?

Thats all I can think of right now, any other suggestions you may have would be welcome and appreciated
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- fatal2ty   The art of shadowrunning   Jul 17 2007, 03:19 AM
- - Fix-it   1: They aren't in everyday life. consider them...   Jul 17 2007, 03:33 AM
- - Talia Invierno   First of all, fatal2ty, welcome both to the forums...   Jul 17 2007, 03:43 AM
- - BookWyrm   I think I might be able to help, I myself being a ...   Jul 17 2007, 03:49 AM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE 1 - how do Dragons in SR compare to Dragons ...   Jul 17 2007, 03:54 AM
- - sunnyside   1. Ok the big big difference in SR vs D&D is ...   Jul 17 2007, 03:59 AM
- - Solomon Greene   QUOTE how do Dragons in SR compare to Dragons in D...   Jul 17 2007, 04:07 AM
- - fatal2ty   So summing up #1 could safely be "SR Dragons ...   Jul 17 2007, 04:13 AM
- - Solomon Greene   Firstly: QUOTE Again, let me pimp the Sprawl Surv...   Jul 17 2007, 04:19 AM
- - Fix-it   corporate territory starts when you walk onto thie...   Jul 17 2007, 04:22 AM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE Or is there a distance limitation for your c...   Jul 17 2007, 04:23 AM
- - Talia Invierno   QUOTE To add to #2, are there any good canon books...   Jul 17 2007, 04:27 AM
- - Fix-it   QUOTE (coolgrafix) While on-site, you are under Re...   Jul 17 2007, 04:28 AM
- - sunnyside   Elaborating on the matrix. I wouldn't think ...   Jul 17 2007, 04:32 AM
- - fatal2ty   ok, heres another thought I just had, IRL I live i...   Jul 17 2007, 04:36 AM
- - Talia Invierno   Oh, and the police themselves are a corporation. ...   Jul 17 2007, 04:36 AM
- - Fix-it   QUOTE (fatal2ty) ok, heres another thought I just ...   Jul 17 2007, 04:38 AM
- - fatal2ty   I love torrents, i'm now in possession of all ...   Jul 17 2007, 04:58 AM
- - bibliophile20   1. If you're interested in Shadowrun dragons, ...   Jul 17 2007, 05:03 AM
- - Talia Invierno   *cough* I'm posting off a Pentium III. The s...   Jul 17 2007, 05:38 AM
- - bibliophile20   Sorry. *sheepish smile* Perhaps a Pentium II would...   Jul 17 2007, 06:11 AM
- - Talia Invierno   And then there's the 486 in the background (t...   Jul 17 2007, 06:38 AM
- - Synner667   Hi, First off, welcome to the SR throng - I hope ...   Jul 17 2007, 06:42 AM
- - bclements   QUOTE (bibliophile20 @ Jul 17 2007, 01:11 AM)...   Jul 17 2007, 06:58 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (fatal2ty) So summing up #1 could safely be ...   Jul 17 2007, 07:24 AM
- - Talia Invierno   @ bclements: Hey, it's not that bad! And...   Jul 17 2007, 07:47 AM
- - Particle_Beam   Even with the twist fate power, they're still ...   Jul 17 2007, 08:13 AM
- - Talia Invierno   Power creep -- before? Before, when you could onl...   Jul 17 2007, 08:25 AM
- - Particle_Beam   Dumpshock-users do not represent the majority (nor...   Jul 17 2007, 08:38 AM
- - Ravor   Besides, I get the feeling that many of the ...   Jul 17 2007, 02:03 PM
- - coolgrafix   Dude, are you reading the same rules and canon mat...   Jul 17 2007, 02:37 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (knasser) There's a lot of dragon worshi...   Jul 17 2007, 03:53 PM
- - Jaid   to clear up a few misconceptions: 1) not all drag...   Jul 17 2007, 03:58 PM
- - bibliophile20   QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 17 2007, 11:58 AM) to clear...   Jul 17 2007, 04:00 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (Jaid) to clear up a few misconceptions: 1)...   Jul 17 2007, 04:02 PM
- - coolgrafix   Did I mention Hardened Armor of 20+ ? For referenc...   Jul 17 2007, 04:06 PM
- - Jaid   hmmm... obviously they've changed stuff then, ...   Jul 17 2007, 04:25 PM
- - Solomon Greene   Sorry, man, dragons have always been magical. The...   Jul 17 2007, 04:29 PM
- - coolgrafix   To make this point even more clear (please accept ...   Jul 17 2007, 04:32 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (Jaid) as for your hardened armor 20 nonsens...   Jul 17 2007, 04:35 PM
- - Jaid   the most powerful rocket in the book can go throug...   Jul 17 2007, 04:36 PM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (coolgrafix) QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 17 2007,...   Jul 17 2007, 04:39 PM
- - hyzmarca   They always had the Sorcery Power. The Magician Qu...   Jul 17 2007, 04:40 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (BookWyrm) Oh yes, they are as dangerous as ...   Jul 17 2007, 04:41 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (Jaid) hmmm... obviously they've changed...   Jul 17 2007, 04:42 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (hyzmarca) They always had the Sorcery Power...   Jul 17 2007, 04:44 PM
- - jklst14   QUOTE (fatal2ty)I love torrents, i'm now in po...   Jul 17 2007, 04:46 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 17 2007, 11:39 AM) dragons....   Jul 17 2007, 05:04 PM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (coolgrafix) QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 17 2007,...   Jul 17 2007, 05:16 PM
- - coolgrafix   Pretty sure you have this wrong. AP only matters f...   Jul 17 2007, 05:31 PM
- - Nerf'd   QUOTE (Jaid) QUOTE (coolgrafix @ Jul 17 2007,...   Jul 17 2007, 05:42 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Nerf'd) That being said, it would make ...   Jul 17 2007, 05:45 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (Nerf'd @ Jul 17 2007, 12:42 PM) Th...   Jul 17 2007, 05:45 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (coolgrafix) Edit: Doh! Moon beat me to ...   Jul 17 2007, 05:51 PM
- - Large Mike   Point 1: Everybody chill a little, okay? All this...   Jul 17 2007, 05:53 PM
- - Nerf'd   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) QUOTE (Nerf'd @ Jul 17 ...   Jul 17 2007, 05:56 PM
- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Talia Invierno) There will also be a vehicl...   Jul 17 2007, 06:05 PM
- - Jaid   you know, toxins can be toxic to all sorts of crea...   Jul 17 2007, 06:06 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)QUOTE (Nerf'd @ Jul 17 2...   Jul 17 2007, 06:07 PM
- - FrankTrollman   Sigh. Misconceptions abound. QUOTE Sorry, man, d...   Jul 17 2007, 06:11 PM
- - Jaid   out of curiosity, anyone familiar with ED around w...   Jul 17 2007, 06:14 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (Jaid) You know, toxins can be toxic to all ...   Jul 17 2007, 06:17 PM
- - Nerf'd   Yes, toxins meant for rodents/other animals WILL w...   Jul 17 2007, 06:25 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (FrankTrollman) QUOTE As I pointed out earli...   Jul 17 2007, 06:26 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (FrankTrollman) Yes, you can kill a great dr...   Jul 17 2007, 06:32 PM
- - Particle_Beam   Wasn't there some Great Dragon in Germany who ...   Jul 17 2007, 06:38 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (Particle_Beam) Wasn't there some Great ...   Jul 17 2007, 06:46 PM
- - James McMurray   Great Dragons aren't impossible to kill. Dunke...   Jul 17 2007, 06:51 PM
- - Particle_Beam   No, I do remember people talking about another Gre...   Jul 17 2007, 06:54 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (coolgrafix) I love you, dude, but you are ...   Jul 17 2007, 06:59 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...a couple things to remember before grabbing you...   Jul 17 2007, 07:01 PM
- - FrankTrollman   Actually, quoting the Dragon's twist fate brin...   Jul 17 2007, 07:08 PM
- - Large Mike   QUOTE (Jaid)out of curiosity, anyone familiar with...   Jul 17 2007, 07:15 PM
- - FriendoftheDork   QUOTE (coolgrafix) [QUOTE=Jaid,Jul 17 2007, 11:39 ...   Jul 17 2007, 07:20 PM
- - Particle_Beam   FrankTrollman already clarified on coolgrafix...   Jul 17 2007, 07:35 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (Particle_Beam) FrankTrollman already clarif...   Jul 17 2007, 08:03 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (FrankTrollman) Actually, quoting the Dragon...   Jul 17 2007, 08:06 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (FrankTrollman) Eggshells with hammers on ev...   Jul 17 2007, 08:09 PM
- - Solomon Greene   QUOTE (knasser) dragons don't survive because ...   Jul 17 2007, 08:13 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (coolgrafix @ Jul 17 2007, 11:44 AM) QU...   Jul 17 2007, 08:49 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (FrankTrollman)Actually, quoting the Dragon...   Jul 17 2007, 09:05 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (hyzmarca) Dzitbalchen was ritually executed...   Jul 17 2007, 09:14 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Jaid) now granted, i would want a *lot* of ...   Jul 17 2007, 09:16 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Jul 17 2007, 09:05 PM) Tru...   Jul 17 2007, 09:28 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (kzt) The Armor spell the dragon had kind of...   Jul 17 2007, 09:31 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (knasser) The original question was about dr...   Jul 17 2007, 09:42 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (coolgrafix) QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Jul 17 2...   Jul 17 2007, 11:17 PM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Jul 17 2007, 06:17 PM) Runn...   Jul 17 2007, 11:44 PM
- - Jaid   i believe there is also a great dragon that was (p...   Jul 18 2007, 12:24 AM
- - ronin3338   QUOTE (fatal2ty) 1 - how do Dragons in SR compare ...   Jul 18 2007, 01:42 AM
- - Protector152   Jaid, i don't know much about ED but i do have...   Jul 19 2007, 04:21 AM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Protector152) oh and Dragons CAN become Gre...   Jul 19 2007, 03:05 PM
- - Talia Invierno   In downtime, the dragons are understood to have be...   Jul 19 2007, 11:27 PM
- - laughingowl   A couple of notes: Dragons = Magician. QUOTE (ma...   Jul 20 2007, 01:29 AM
- - Particle_Beam   And of course, dragons who are all so proud of bei...   Jul 20 2007, 01:36 AM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Particle_Beam) And of course, dragons who a...   Jul 20 2007, 01:49 AM
- - Zatoichi   QUOTE (Talia Invierno) In downtime, the dragons ar...   Jul 20 2007, 04:17 AM
- - Talia Invierno   And yet we are faced with the time differential me...   Jul 20 2007, 05:29 AM
- - knasser   "Sleep learning" takes away from my two ...   Jul 20 2007, 07:10 AM
- - Critias   I've never been a big dracophile (precisely be...   Jul 20 2007, 07:33 AM
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