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post Aug 20 2007, 08:31 AM
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Traditionally, in cartoons, high explosives such as dynamite and Illudium PU-36 Explosive Space Modulators do not cause any damage to living targets other than a blacked face, even if they have enough explosive power to destroy entire planets, as is the case of the Illudium PU-36 ESM.

This is also true, to a lesser extent, in SR4.

Let us introduce Mr. Daffy, a plain old wageslave with 2s across the board. Mr. Daffy, however, is concerned with his safety so he owns and wears and armored jacket.

Mr. Daffy, on a dare from Mr. Bugs, duck tapes several sticks of dynamite, totaling 1 kilogram in mass, to his armored jacket. Mr. Daffy then lights those sticks and walks into work. They, of course, explode quite embarrassingly. The resulting 3DV damage is converted to stun by Mr. Daffy's jacket, leaving him with a terrible headache and a soot-blackened face. There is, likewise, blackening and slight damage to his office and its contents.

At this point, I will ask that interested parties try this at home. Duct tape a kilogram of dynamite to a kevlar vest with a Rating III ceramic insert and put it on. Set off the explosives and see if you survive. I'm pretty sure that it will be fatal, but I could be wrong. Do it in a crowded place with plenty of people and sensitive equipment around and make a record of the damage if you do survive
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Disclaimer: By reading this disclaimer dumbasses who are stupid enough to blow themselves to hell indemnify me from all civil liability.
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Obviously, the damage potential of commercial high explosives is extremely lacking, potential in the lethality of point-blank contact.


The next example, however, is a bit more extreme.

Meet Gary Swallows, troll; gay porn star. As a gay porn star, Gary lives up to his name. He swallows quite well. He is extremely adept at swallowing long hard sticks. So it is no problem for him to swallow several intact sticks of dynamite, even if they do have lit fuses.

Gary Swallows, having deep throated and then some several sticks of dynamite with lit fuses, is forced to resist 3P damage with body alone. He's a fucking hard-bodied troll (emphasis on fucking) so this is trivial for him. He suffers nothing but slight heartburn from the exploding dynamite and lets out a belch powerful enough to cause 3P damage to anyone within its path for the first meter, reduced by 1P every meter thereafter.

An I the only one who finds this just slightly ridiculous. There is some fun in playing a troll who uses a dynamite butt-plug as a last-ditch holdout weapon, certainly, but it is ever so slightly unrealistic.
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- hyzmarca   Explosive damage scaling   Aug 20 2007, 08:31 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (hyzmarca)The resulting 3DV damage is conver...   Aug 20 2007, 09:04 AM
- - Crusher Bob   Hmm, the MK3A2 concussion grenade has a charge of ...   Aug 20 2007, 09:07 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (hyzmarca)The res...   Aug 20 2007, 09:14 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (hyzmarca) Thankfully, SR4 seems to lack a c...   Aug 20 2007, 09:17 AM
- - hyzmarca   Thanks. But, still, troll guts don't have a...   Aug 20 2007, 09:57 AM
- - Serbitar   Fo realism, divide all explosive weights by 10. Yo...   Aug 20 2007, 10:20 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (hyzmarca) But, still, troll guts don't ...   Aug 20 2007, 11:53 AM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Serbitar) Fo realism, divide all explosive ...   Aug 20 2007, 02:10 PM
- - Tarantula   QUOTE (hyzmarca)Let us introduce Mr. Daffy, a plai...   Aug 20 2007, 02:56 PM
- - hyzmarca   The blasts in a confined space rule doesn't ap...   Aug 20 2007, 03:04 PM
- - Blade   Yeah we definitely need rules for swallowing explo...   Aug 20 2007, 03:16 PM
- - kzt   The other issue is the linear drop-off in damage. ...   Aug 20 2007, 03:17 PM
- - Naysayer   But the charge going off somewhere between his esp...   Aug 20 2007, 03:18 PM
- - darthmord   The other problem with the confined space count he...   Aug 20 2007, 05:14 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...in the just as silly category "John Q Nor...   Aug 20 2007, 07:45 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) ...in the just as silly category...   Aug 20 2007, 08:11 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) I'm convinced that if RL beh...   Aug 20 2007, 08:19 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...depends on who the GM is...   Aug 20 2007, 09:42 PM
- - darthmord   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) ...in the just as silly category...   Aug 20 2007, 10:45 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...but like you said, you were braced for it, and ...   Aug 20 2007, 11:02 PM
- - odinson   QUOTE (darthmord) QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Aug 20 2...   Aug 20 2007, 11:32 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...yeah I think we lose that "resilient...   Aug 20 2007, 11:39 PM
- - CyberKender   There are points when you just need to say it...   Aug 20 2007, 11:47 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (CyberKender)We used to have a joke in first...   Aug 21 2007, 12:16 AM
- - Tarantula   QUOTE (hyzmarca) The blasts in a confined space ru...   Aug 21 2007, 01:20 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Tarantula) Do you let people swim without...   Aug 21 2007, 01:48 AM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) ...yeah I think we lose that ...   Aug 21 2007, 04:15 PM
- - darthmord   Makes you wonder just how much belief defines real...   Aug 21 2007, 05:41 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (hyzmarca)QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 20 200...   Aug 21 2007, 05:41 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (darthmord) Makes you wonder just how much b...   Aug 21 2007, 05:55 PM
- - WeaverMount   I think we missed something critical in the midst ...   Aug 21 2007, 08:14 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Good point. That was a very nice reference. I me...   Aug 21 2007, 08:16 PM
- - darthmord   But he failed to mention the "Earth shatterin...   Aug 21 2007, 10:38 PM
- - Tarantula   QUOTE (hyzmarca)Yes. I also let them drive a car w...   Aug 22 2007, 12:26 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Tarantula) anyone on the street can setup a...   Aug 22 2007, 02:57 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (kzt) QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 21 2007, 0...   Aug 22 2007, 03:29 AM
- - Fortune   Demolitions should definitely be a non-defaultable...   Aug 22 2007, 03:58 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) I'd argue that anything...   Aug 22 2007, 04:41 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Fortune) Demolitions should definitely be a...   Aug 22 2007, 05:48 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (kzt) QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Aug 21 200...   Aug 22 2007, 06:07 AM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) That said, when you think ...   Aug 22 2007, 08:11 AM
- - Tarantula   Jopp, why not just let them make a Logic + Demolit...   Aug 22 2007, 02:45 PM
- - Ed_209a   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) http://www.carlisle.army.m...   Aug 22 2007, 03:23 PM
- - Adarael   If a guy's using demolitions to tape dynamite ...   Aug 22 2007, 05:36 PM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Adarael) If a guy's using demolitions t...   Aug 22 2007, 06:23 PM
- - Aku   so the test is to determine if the bomb goes of as...   Aug 22 2007, 06:27 PM
- - Adarael   Jopp, those are valid concerns for an ordinary gam...   Aug 22 2007, 06:38 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Adarael) If a guy's using demolitions t...   Aug 22 2007, 06:45 PM
- - Adarael   Trust me, I know.   Aug 22 2007, 06:47 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Adarael) Jopp, those are valid concerns for...   Aug 22 2007, 08:54 PM
- - Adarael   We'll deal with that when it comes. I believ...   Aug 22 2007, 08:57 PM
- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Adarael) Jopp, those are valid concerns for...   Aug 23 2007, 01:26 AM
- - Sma   Lets discuss how it's impossible to strap 3 kg...   Aug 23 2007, 01:44 AM
- - Tarantula   Adarael, also remember that the armor is such that...   Aug 23 2007, 01:48 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...hmm a jacket with a bunch of explosive armour s...   Aug 23 2007, 01:59 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 22 2007, 08:48 PM) Ada...   Aug 23 2007, 02:03 AM
- - Adarael   Seconded.   Aug 23 2007, 02:04 AM
- - James McMurray   How about we instead assume that he botches and th...   Aug 23 2007, 02:04 AM
- - Adarael   Thank you, James.   Aug 23 2007, 02:14 AM
- - hyzmarca   Also, am I the only one who finds it annoying to c...   Aug 23 2007, 02:29 AM
- - hobgoblin   i think its a traditions from as far back as at le...   Aug 23 2007, 02:41 AM
- - Tarantula   You are right, its quite stupid that 1kg does only...   Aug 23 2007, 03:07 AM
- - hobgoblin   hmm, does not the range and damage value of commer...   Aug 23 2007, 04:24 AM


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