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Cthulhudreams
post Sep 17 2007, 04:45 AM
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Most current security guards in the world are not the epitome of professionalism. Current security guarding interests (bouncers!) in Australia are often in many cases actually run by organized crime. While some guards are consummate professionals, there is a lot of dodgy work being done out there.

When we move on to more professional and higher paid areas such as the military and Police we are still suffering from a chronic shortage of personnel, and the military was having difficulties meeting recruiting targets.

What happened to sec guards in the intervening years to make professional police/security a much more appealing profession. Did pay rates just increase massively in the face of the dire security situations? And a worsening security situation actually increases the risk of these jobs which makes them less likely to attract prime candidates for the same money. Why isn't corp sec at most sites run by Barney?

Edit: Hell, the professional mercenary game is pretty dodgy at times too.
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- Cthulhudreams   Security Guards   Sep 17 2007, 04:45 AM
- - kzt   Most security in SRworld is pretty crappy. Not wo...   Sep 17 2007, 05:31 AM
- - imperialus   I think it's really two things. The first, an...   Sep 17 2007, 05:49 AM
- - Apathy   I'd say that looking at the security guard at ...   Sep 17 2007, 01:27 PM
- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (Apathy @ Sep 17 2007, 08:27 AM) I...   Sep 17 2007, 02:09 PM
- - treehugger   All AAA would have their own training facilities f...   Sep 17 2007, 02:24 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) Society doesn't even beg...   Sep 17 2007, 02:48 PM
- - Grinder   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) The demand in 2070 is likely...   Sep 17 2007, 03:41 PM
- - Buster   Exactly, corps can always sponsor someone for a SI...   Sep 17 2007, 04:20 PM
- - hobgoblin   another thing is that one will have levels of secu...   Sep 17 2007, 07:14 PM
- - imperialus   QUOTE (nezumi @ Sep 17 2007, 08:48 AM) When ...   Sep 17 2007, 07:32 PM
- - mfb   the key thing here is to remember that there is a ...   Sep 17 2007, 08:32 PM
- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (imperialus) QUOTE (nezumi @ Sep 17 200...   Sep 17 2007, 11:45 PM
- - mfb   that's the thing, man. if there's this hug...   Sep 17 2007, 11:59 PM
- - imperialus   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) QUOTE (imperialus @ Sep...   Sep 18 2007, 12:20 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   I guess we are taking different perspectives on th...   Sep 18 2007, 12:53 AM
- - mfb   well, even after VITAS, the crashes, and all the r...   Sep 18 2007, 01:21 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (mfb @ Sep 17 2007, 08:21 PM) aside fro...   Sep 18 2007, 01:44 AM
- - mfb   to be clear, i'm rationalizing. i'm lookin...   Sep 18 2007, 02:01 AM
- - Apathy   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Sep 17 2007, 07:53 PM)...   Sep 18 2007, 02:05 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (mfb) to be clear, i'm rationalizing. i...   Sep 18 2007, 02:10 AM
- - Hartbaine   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) Again, my opinion is that pe...   Sep 18 2007, 02:11 AM
- - Mercer   Deprivation is the best school for a soldier. At ...   Sep 18 2007, 02:27 AM
- - Hartbaine   Ick... the French...   Sep 18 2007, 02:37 AM
- - imperialus   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) I guess we are taking differ...   Sep 18 2007, 03:40 AM
- - imperialus   QUOTE (Hartbaine) QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Sep ...   Sep 18 2007, 03:43 AM
- - Hartbaine   QUOTE (imperialus) QUOTE (Hartbaine @ Sep 17 ...   Sep 18 2007, 03:47 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (imperialus) Probably some goon with a recor...   Sep 18 2007, 04:00 AM
- - Draconis   Your assessment of security is generally correct. ...   Sep 18 2007, 10:09 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (imperialus @ Sep 17 2007, 10:40 PM) W...   Sep 18 2007, 10:40 AM
- - Draconis   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Sep 18 2007, 10:40 AM)...   Sep 18 2007, 10:44 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (Draconis) Isn't everyone in 2070 bette...   Sep 18 2007, 11:00 AM
- - Draconis   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) QUOTE (Draconis @ Sep 1...   Sep 18 2007, 11:15 AM
- - Grinder   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) From my reading chunks of th...   Sep 18 2007, 11:39 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (Grinder @ Sep 18 2007, 06:39 AM) Not ...   Sep 18 2007, 11:45 AM
- - Mercer   The thing that's always seemed odd to me is th...   Sep 18 2007, 02:10 PM
- - Aaron   QUOTE (Mercer) The thing that's always seemed ...   Sep 18 2007, 03:00 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) You can either try robbing t...   Sep 18 2007, 03:06 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (mfb) to be clear, i'm rationalizing. i...   Sep 18 2007, 03:58 PM
- - Penta   Way I play it: Your average secguard, Barney-type...   Sep 18 2007, 05:03 PM
- - imperialus   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) From my reading chunks of th...   Sep 18 2007, 05:03 PM
- - nezumi   I would be tremendously surprised if a security gu...   Sep 18 2007, 05:13 PM
- - Apathy   QUOTE (nezumi) I would be tremendously surprised i...   Sep 18 2007, 06:16 PM
- - mfb   i actually prefer arming all security guards with ...   Sep 18 2007, 06:35 PM
- - Mercer   QUOTE (Aaron) It's a question of coverage. It...   Sep 18 2007, 06:38 PM
- - imperialus   QUOTE (mfb @ Sep 18 2007, 12:35 PM) i actuall...   Sep 18 2007, 06:42 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Mercer)It still seems like in terms of prof...   Sep 18 2007, 06:48 PM
- - Mercer   Roadhouse-style coolers aside, your average cop vs...   Sep 18 2007, 08:06 PM
- - nezumi   I have to admit, I have to chuckle reading this, s...   Sep 18 2007, 09:14 PM
- - Riley37   With all due respect to the bouncer who's huge...   Sep 18 2007, 10:02 PM
- - DireRadiant   Are all guards the same everywhere? What happened...   Sep 18 2007, 11:29 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Sep 18 2007, 04:29 PM) ...   Sep 19 2007, 03:11 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (nezumi @ Sep 18 2007, 10:06 AM) Histo...   Sep 19 2007, 05:03 AM
- - mfb   the cops don't go in because there's no pr...   Sep 19 2007, 06:53 AM
- - nezumi   Like mfb said. Where ever there is profit to be m...   Sep 19 2007, 01:51 PM
- - Sma   Also paying the local gang to make sure you're...   Sep 19 2007, 02:15 PM
- - Mercer   Black Hawk Down has a pretty good example of Ratin...   Sep 19 2007, 04:13 PM
- - Grinder   Your link leads to a forum and not a movie-related...   Sep 19 2007, 08:01 PM
- - Big D   Gee, this thread sounds familiar. It's just l...   Sep 21 2007, 03:21 AM
- - cx2   Just make them upload their cybereye footage as th...   Sep 21 2007, 06:09 AM
- - Rudeboy   The thing that instantly jumps out in my head in t...   Sep 21 2007, 09:00 AM
- - cx2   Good point. I could also imagine sec guards being ...   Sep 21 2007, 09:26 AM
- - Penta   See, this is where I'm probably...a heretic to...   Sep 21 2007, 01:05 PM
- - Grinder   QUOTE (Penta) Even if you charge far above market ...   Sep 21 2007, 01:14 PM
- - Penta   Even Corp-Scrip doesn't change the equation. C...   Sep 21 2007, 01:20 PM
- - Grinder   I always assumed that no other corp would accept o...   Sep 21 2007, 01:40 PM
- - blood_kite   QUOTE (Penta) Even Corp-Scrip doesn't change t...   Sep 21 2007, 01:50 PM
- - Irian   QUOTE (blood_kite) The Corp won't exchange Cor...   Sep 21 2007, 02:24 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   The corp will gladly exchange your corp-scrip for ...   Sep 21 2007, 02:42 PM
- - Apathy   Shadowrun is the product of our 80's culture, ...   Sep 21 2007, 03:23 PM
- - blood_kite   QUOTE (Irian) If you can't buy anything for it...   Sep 21 2007, 03:35 PM
- - Mercer   Or, Corp Scrip could have a discount at corp store...   Sep 21 2007, 05:19 PM
- - nezumi   Remember that open market capitalism is *NOT GOOD*...   Sep 21 2007, 05:31 PM
- - Rudeboy   Well, corp wage-slaves are one of the backbones of...   Sep 21 2007, 06:15 PM
- - gknoy   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams)where are these people coming...   Sep 21 2007, 09:02 PM
- - cx2   I agree that the corps would go to this extent for...   Sep 21 2007, 11:30 PM
- - Mercer   There's a little of that now, if you look at t...   Sep 22 2007, 01:15 AM
- - cx2   I would imagine corp sec forces acting as police t...   Sep 22 2007, 03:39 AM
- - Grinder   QUOTE (cx2) I would imagine corp sec forces acting...   Sep 22 2007, 08:07 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Mercer) Also, if we're talking about c...   Sep 22 2007, 10:00 AM
- - Mercer   And US embassies have Marines, which one would hop...   Sep 22 2007, 02:40 PM


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