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I feel stupid, but I don't grasp what I'm supposed to roll for rigging and hacking. Some specifics:

1) When hacking, when are Attributes important when making a <blank> + <blank> roll? (It seems that most if not all Matrix rolls are Skill + Program, which seems to mean it doesn't make any difference what your Attributes are. Skills like Hacking are listed as Logic-skills, but when do you actually use Logic + Hacking?)

2) When hacking, when are Persona attributes (System, Firewall, etc) important when making a <blank> + <blank> roll? Again, it seems to be Skill + Program. (I do understand these things have non-diceroll values such as how many programs you can run or how far you can transmit your signal.)

3) When rigging, do you use your Reaction to drive a vehicle, or is this also Skill + Program. Or is it Response? And are you using Spoof or Command?

4) Does a rigging Technomancer use Reaction or Intuition for driving a rigged vehicle since it is through the Matrix and TM speeds are Intuition-based? Does Response come into play? Does the Technomancer use the vehicle operation skill, Spoof or Command?

5) How do you use Encrypt to protect your rigging signal. Specifically, if you action is to command/spoof/control the vehicle, is encrypting then a free action? Or something that happens automatically? Or do you set up encryption on your signals during downtime?

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- Ghost in the Machine   Rigging and Hacking Questions   Nov 8 2007, 01:01 AM
- - Earlydawn   1. Indeed, Logic does not play into hacking. Vario...   Nov 8 2007, 01:55 AM
- - Jaid   system is used to resist damage. response is used ...   Nov 8 2007, 02:00 AM
- - Ghost in the Machine   Thanks! That answers 1 & 2. Still need m...   Nov 8 2007, 02:41 AM
- - Riley37   I imagine that you would use Logic + Hacking when ...   Nov 8 2007, 02:58 AM
- - Cain   #3. In general, when ordering around a drone, Com...   Nov 8 2007, 02:59 AM
- - WearzManySkins   For Electronic Warfare when dealing hands on with ...   Nov 8 2007, 03:02 AM
- - Riley37   Sending encrypted signals to spoof a drone would b...   Nov 8 2007, 03:02 AM
- - Jaid   very well then. 3) when rigging (by which i mean ...   Nov 8 2007, 03:10 AM
- - Ghost in the Machine   QUOTE (Jaid) 3) when rigging (by which i mean you ...   Nov 8 2007, 09:07 AM
- - Ghost in the Machine   QUOTE (Riley37) I have a different interpretation,...   Nov 8 2007, 09:11 AM
- - Cain   BBB=Big Black Book E.g., the Core Rulebook.   Nov 8 2007, 09:18 AM
- - Ryu   QUOTE To my knowledge, vehicles themselves do not...   Nov 8 2007, 12:11 PM
- - Ghost in the Machine   I'm not finding a table labeled "Standard...   Nov 8 2007, 02:15 PM
- - Ghost in the Machine   So far, the only thing I can find that even sugges...   Nov 8 2007, 02:36 PM
- - Ryu   P. 213 of the german edition. DonĀ“t know if the p...   Nov 8 2007, 02:54 PM
- - DireRadiant   SR4 p. 214 Sample Devices Table is what you are l...   Nov 8 2007, 03:04 PM
- - Riley37   QUOTE (Ghost in the Machine) Can you use Spoof ins...   Nov 8 2007, 10:27 PM
- - Jaid   once again, you need to understand that command is...   Nov 8 2007, 11:43 PM
- - Ghost in the Machine   So despite all vehicle piloting skills being React...   Nov 9 2007, 12:28 AM
- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Ghost in the Machine) So, if I understand c...   Nov 9 2007, 02:22 AM
- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Ghost in the Machine) Now if the Technomanc...   Nov 9 2007, 02:25 AM
- - Jaid   not quite correct. in either situation, the techno...   Nov 9 2007, 02:25 AM
- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Ghost in the Machine @ Nov 8 2007, 07:...   Nov 9 2007, 02:27 AM
- - Cain   Actually, if it has a Pilot, it's automaticall...   Nov 9 2007, 02:57 AM
- - Ghost in the Machine   Cain: Each of the vehicles in the gear section has...   Nov 9 2007, 03:42 AM
- - Ghost in the Machine   So, if I understand correctly, the Technomancer...   Nov 9 2007, 03:47 AM
- - Riley37   I imagine that companies which own vehicles, insta...   Nov 9 2007, 04:02 AM
- - hobgoblin   Why not drone trucks, and a company rigger in capt...   Nov 9 2007, 04:27 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE (Ghost in the Machine) Cain: Each of the veh...   Nov 9 2007, 05:23 AM
- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Cain @ Nov 8 2007, 09:57 PM) Actually,...   Nov 9 2007, 05:45 AM
- - Cain   And the difference between a drone and a mere vehi...   Nov 9 2007, 06:22 AM
- - Riley37   Cain, you have found yet another example of BBB be...   Nov 9 2007, 07:32 AM
- - Ghost in the Machine   Well, at least I feel better about having been con...   Nov 9 2007, 08:20 AM
- - Ryu   What DireRadiant said, with the added information ...   Nov 9 2007, 08:49 AM
- - Ghost in the Machine   QUOTE (Ryu @ Nov 9 2007, 08:49 AM) What DireR...   Nov 9 2007, 09:31 AM
- - Ryu   Read that 3rd quote again. All vehicles may serve ...   Nov 9 2007, 10:58 AM
- - Ghost in the Machine   Again, a "navi" sounds like something fr...   Nov 9 2007, 11:34 AM
- - FrankTrollman   You cannot prove anything by the statements in the...   Nov 9 2007, 01:01 PM
- - Ryu   What is the problem here? A pilot program is able...   Nov 9 2007, 02:35 PM
- - DireRadiant   The fundamental logic is as Frank articulated. A-...   Nov 9 2007, 02:42 PM
- - Nightwalker450   I think the way its supposed to be is without the ...   Nov 9 2007, 03:44 PM
- - Riley37   Despite the unfortunate BBB phrasing, whether a ve...   Nov 9 2007, 05:44 PM
- - Cheops   1) Any vehicle that is communicating wirelessly ca...   Nov 9 2007, 06:47 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Despite the unfortunate BBB phrasing, whethe...   Nov 9 2007, 06:48 PM
- - Cheops   QUOTE (Ghost in the Machine) So, if I understand c...   Nov 9 2007, 06:52 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Cain) QUOTE Despite the unfortunate BBB phr...   Nov 9 2007, 07:22 PM
- - Klaste   QUOTE (Cheops) QUOTE (Ghost in the Machine @ ...   Nov 9 2007, 07:34 PM
- - Ryu   NO! I see the problem about not knowing which ...   Nov 9 2007, 08:54 PM
- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Cain) QUOTE Despite the unfortunate BBB phr...   Nov 9 2007, 09:06 PM
- - Cain   It is stated, rather clearly, that all vehicles ca...   Nov 9 2007, 09:38 PM
- - Ryu   The difference between an ordinary vehicle and a d...   Nov 9 2007, 09:52 PM
- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Cain) It is stated, rather clearly, that al...   Nov 9 2007, 10:06 PM
- - Cain   No. What the book says is that the distinction be...   Nov 9 2007, 10:40 PM
- - Ghost in the Machine   QUOTE (Cheops) You are basically correct except th...   Nov 10 2007, 12:30 AM
- - Ghost in the Machine   QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Nov 9 2007, 10:06 PM) A ...   Nov 10 2007, 12:59 AM
- - Alphastream   I've never met a rulebook that didn't have...   Nov 13 2007, 06:31 PM
- - Alphastream   In the spirit of the overall post, here is my rigg...   Nov 13 2007, 08:22 PM
- - Fortune   I think you would be better served starting a new ...   Nov 13 2007, 08:26 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Ghost in the Machine) Actually, shouldn...   Nov 13 2007, 08:28 PM
- - Alphastream   QUOTE (Fortune) I think you would be better served...   Nov 13 2007, 09:06 PM
- - Alphastream   QUOTE (Alphastream)Step 3. Remote Rigging. Percept...   Nov 17 2007, 01:47 AM
- - Jaid   i'm not totally clear on what you mean when yo...   Nov 17 2007, 03:44 AM
- - Alphastream   QUOTE (Jaid)i'm not totally clear on what you ...   Nov 18 2007, 07:50 PM
- - Jaid   hmmm... i think you're still missing some thin...   Nov 18 2007, 08:35 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...OK, now my matrix specialist Violet (#55? - I...   Nov 19 2007, 12:02 AM
- - Jaid   assuming you take over control without rigging, ye...   Nov 19 2007, 12:14 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...so to use command she still needs actual piloti...   Nov 19 2007, 12:27 AM
- - Jaid   well, if the skill can't be defaulted yes. ot...   Nov 19 2007, 12:56 AM
- - Alphastream   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) As I understand (and the way we ...   Nov 19 2007, 08:27 AM
- - Alphastream   QUOTE (Jaid)first of all, it does say that you use...   Nov 19 2007, 09:24 AM
- - Ryu   The command program is used to give orders to a de...   Nov 19 2007, 02:42 PM
- - DireRadiant   For reference . FAQ QUOTE (FAQ)Do you need the Com...   Nov 19 2007, 03:39 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Jaid)well, if the skill can't be defaul...   Nov 19 2007, 03:46 PM
- - Alphastream   QUOTE (DireRadiant) For reference . FAQ QUOTE (FAQ...   Nov 19 2007, 07:22 PM
- - DireRadiant   You may wish to read p. 220 Controlling Devices wh...   Nov 19 2007, 07:33 PM
- - Jaid   essentially, you have the dicepools for controllin...   Nov 19 2007, 09:59 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...so for a Matrix Specialist who is not a Rigger,...   Nov 19 2007, 10:10 PM
- - DireRadiant   I believe drone perception tests are Drone Sensor ...   Nov 19 2007, 10:23 PM
- - Jaid   actually, it's plenty useful. first off, you ...   Nov 19 2007, 10:30 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...so since her Stormcloud did have a camera + vis...   Nov 19 2007, 11:00 PM
- - Alphastream   QUOTE (DireRadiant) You may wish to read p. 220 Co...   Nov 20 2007, 12:19 AM
- - Jaid   it's fairly clear if you look at the examples....   Nov 20 2007, 02:23 AM
- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Alphastream) Sorry, DireRadiant, but that d...   Nov 20 2007, 05:15 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...OK, so this is how I see it. Vi wants ti use t...   Nov 20 2007, 06:50 PM
- - DireRadiant   I suggest the following QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)...OK, s...   Nov 20 2007, 07:08 PM
- - Jaid   i agree with direradiant on all but one minor poin...   Nov 20 2007, 09:21 PM
- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Jaid) i agree with direradiant on all but o...   Nov 20 2007, 09:30 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...thanks for the help. Still kind of feeling out...   Nov 20 2007, 09:39 PM


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