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post Nov 8 2007, 07:29 PM
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In an effort not to derail Squinky's Character Art thread, as suggested by Kyoto Kid, the discussion on 3D Shadowrun Art and Art Tools has been moved to here.

Programs

Free - $0
Blender
DAZ Studio (Manual)
Maya PLE

Mid Level Program - $50 - $100
Carrara 3D Express
Bryce 6
Effect3D Studio

High End Program - $100 - $300
DAZ Hexagon 2
Poser 7
Carrara 6 Standard

Professional - $300+
Carrara 6 Pro
3DS Max
Lightwave 9
Maya Complete
zBrush

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DAZ Studio is primarily a rendering tool - its 3D object creation ability is very limited.
Blender, Bryce, Poser, Carrara, Maya, 3DS Max, and zBrush have extensive object creation and render tools.

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If you are new to 3D Art - I would recommend starting out with either DAZ Studio and the free content packs available at DAZ3D, such as the Michael 3.0 and 3D Bridge Starter Pack. Other places that offer free 3D content for DAZ Studio and Poser are Renderosity, Content Paradise, and Turbo Squid.

Blender would be the alternative starting choice - its robust modeling tools give it a leg up on DAZ Studio, but comes at the price of steeper learning curve.

In the end, which 3D tool you end up using is strictly a matter of personal choice and comfort factor with the software - almost all of the tools are capable of rendering images that look exactly the same, its just a matter of time and energy working on your scene.

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- Smilin_Jack   3D Art & Art Tools   Nov 8 2007, 07:29 PM
- - kzt   Poser is cool. It's not perfect, but you can ...   Nov 8 2007, 08:50 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ,..thanks for launching this. After downloading...   Nov 8 2007, 09:21 PM
- - Smilin_Jack   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid),..thanks for launching this....   Nov 8 2007, 10:24 PM
- - Fortune   How easy are any of the free programs to use for c...   Nov 8 2007, 10:57 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...thanks for the info... ...& very nice work...   Nov 8 2007, 11:17 PM
- - Smilin_Jack   For computer literate but artistically challenged,...   Nov 8 2007, 11:18 PM
- - shadowfire   Dax 3D from what i hear is a pain to use and learn...   Nov 8 2007, 11:37 PM
- - Smilin_Jack   You might be right, I only started working with DA...   Nov 8 2007, 11:43 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) After downloading I checked thou...   Nov 8 2007, 11:52 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Fortune) How easy are any of the free progr...   Nov 8 2007, 11:58 PM
- - NightLife   Heck if this thing is really going all I need is a...   Nov 9 2007, 08:23 AM
- - Fortune   So, with the free stuff, is all the proper shading...   Nov 9 2007, 08:28 AM
- - Kool Kat   QUOTE (Fortune) So, with the free stuff, is all th...   Nov 9 2007, 01:43 PM
- - Platinum   The problem with Daz3d and poser ... is that peopl...   Nov 10 2007, 02:48 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...OK finally just downloaded Blender. Also Dow...   Nov 11 2007, 06:20 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Platinum) The problem with Daz3d and poser ...   Nov 11 2007, 06:41 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Smilin_Jack) Dystopia City Blocks 001-010 D...   Dec 4 2007, 06:19 PM
- - Fuchs   A few Shadowrun-themed pictures made with DAZ Stud...   Dec 4 2007, 07:24 PM
- - Fortune   Is that an elf with the two humans in the casino? ...   Dec 4 2007, 08:12 PM
- - MYST1C   QUOTE (Fuchs)A few Shadowrun-themed pictures made ...   Dec 4 2007, 09:21 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Fuchs)A few Shadowrun-themed pictures made ...   Dec 4 2007, 09:31 PM
- - Fuchs   Base was Victoria 4 for all females, Michael 3 for...   Dec 4 2007, 09:41 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...still learning the finer art of posing and ligh...   Dec 5 2007, 03:52 AM
- - kzt   Have you hit up the free stuff at renderosity.com?...   Dec 5 2007, 06:29 AM
- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) To do a pic like one of the stre...   Dec 5 2007, 08:19 AM
- - Fortune   Need decent free punk or military clothes.   Dec 5 2007, 08:43 AM
- - eidolon   Thread moved to appropriate forum. Very cool stuf...   Dec 5 2007, 02:45 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...actually a good move, this discussion fits bett...   Dec 5 2007, 04:04 PM
- - Caine Hazen   But you can't all let this die... I'd use...   Dec 21 2007, 08:54 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...nice. This will be rendered I hope... Haven...   Dec 21 2007, 09:38 PM
- - Caine Hazen   Should have joined up as a platinum member, she wa...   Dec 28 2007, 08:48 PM
- - Cardul   Fuchs, which model did you use for the Troll? I wa...   Dec 28 2007, 10:30 PM
- - Eldritch   I used Daz on and off for a couple years. I highly...   Jan 3 2008, 05:11 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Caine Hazen) Should have joined up as a pla...   Jan 3 2008, 06:08 PM
- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Cardul @ Dec 28 2007, 11:30 PM) Fuchs,...   Jan 7 2008, 12:40 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...downloaded the Carrara 3D trial. Pretty intens...   Jan 7 2008, 04:02 PM
- - Cardul   OK...well, this is kind of sucky, but: Troll Mage...   Jan 22 2008, 10:12 AM
- - Fuchs   Looks good. How big is the picture? Imageshack all...   Jan 22 2008, 11:22 AM
- - Cardul   QUOTE (Fuchs) Looks good. How big is the picture? ...   Jan 23 2008, 04:09 AM
|- - MYST1C   QUOTE (Cardul @ Jan 23 2008, 05:09 AM) As...   Feb 5 2008, 08:55 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...what morphs did you use?   Jan 23 2008, 05:23 PM
- - Cardul   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) ...what morphs did you use? ...   Jan 24 2008, 12:13 PM
- - Caine Hazen   As an FYI to all my 3d art friends herethe latest ...   Feb 5 2008, 02:16 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...am joining the Platinum Club this week. Found ...   Feb 5 2008, 02:31 AM
- - swirler   Back when my fiance and I were in Second Life a lo...   Feb 6 2008, 07:26 PM
- - Fuchs   "Remember, act corporate for this evening...   Feb 20 2008, 01:19 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...nice. Love the sassy smartly dressed Ork. I t...   Feb 20 2008, 03:38 PM
- - Fuchs   Those are from this thread. Left to right: DD (Dec...   Feb 20 2008, 03:50 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...cool so there's actually a background to th...   Feb 20 2008, 04:12 PM
- - swirler   oh crud i forgot to mention it here. I dunno if it...   Feb 20 2008, 05:06 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...yeah but you have to sumbit a profile with pers...   Feb 20 2008, 05:58 PM
- - swirler   noone said you had to put real info or pic has pla...   Feb 20 2008, 07:28 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...according to the details I read on the Daz Webs...   Feb 20 2008, 07:50 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 21 2008, 06:50 AM)...   Feb 20 2008, 08:18 PM
|- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 20 2008, 12:18 PM) A...   Feb 21 2008, 12:40 AM
- - Caine Hazen   glad I was eligible for a free upgrade to my V3......   Feb 20 2008, 10:20 PM
- - Fortune   I gave up and deleted all my Daz crap. I suck at a...   Feb 20 2008, 11:26 PM
- - Caine Hazen   Actually lots of the files from DAZ and otherwise ...   Feb 21 2008, 01:38 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...thanks, looks like I got me some serious downl...   Feb 21 2008, 01:53 AM
- - Fuchs   Dystopia Hyperion bar lacks the mat files in DAZ, ...   Feb 21 2008, 07:37 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...that's OK for now. Need to do things a ste...   Feb 21 2008, 08:04 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...okay, now we're in business. Installed Vi...   Feb 22 2008, 05:40 PM
- - Caine Hazen   FYI, for those who wanted to move into Poser but d...   Feb 23 2008, 07:47 PM
|- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Caine Hazen @ Feb 23 2008, 11:47 A...   Feb 24 2008, 09:56 PM
- - HardSix   The current issue of the UK magazine 3D World incl...   Feb 24 2008, 09:06 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...OK here's my first serious attempt at a 3D ...   Feb 24 2008, 10:20 PM
|- - HardSix   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 24 2008, 05:20 PM)...   Feb 25 2008, 05:05 PM
- - Fuchs   Did you move her around on the y-axis? You can pos...   Feb 25 2008, 12:12 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...yes and the placement issue still occurred. I ...   Feb 25 2008, 04:03 PM
- - Fuchs   Ah, that would be it. Scale the block up.   Feb 25 2008, 04:21 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...already downloaded all the guns. Pretty nice s...   Feb 25 2008, 05:52 PM
- - Fuchs   Panko might have some female military clothes in h...   Feb 26 2008, 06:29 AM
- - Fuchs   Some pictures from the "Sink, Hollywood, Sink...   Feb 26 2008, 09:59 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...saw the Street Perfromers and Rave on the PbP t...   Feb 27 2008, 12:26 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...well, as promised. Only a headshot for now as ...   Feb 27 2008, 06:07 AM
- - Fuchs   There's some hair clipping at the ear, maybe m...   Feb 27 2008, 08:08 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...yeah, was aware of that when I posted the image...   Feb 27 2008, 09:31 AM
- - Fuchs   More from the "Sink, Hollywood, Sink" Ca...   Mar 3 2008, 09:24 AM
- - Blade   Nasty "uncanney valley" effect, the mode...   Mar 3 2008, 11:33 AM
- - Fuchs   What program/filter do you use?   Mar 3 2008, 02:28 PM
- - Blade   I use photoshop. I do more than just apply a filte...   Mar 3 2008, 02:50 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...just a quick note. it would be good to include...   Mar 4 2008, 07:13 PM
- - Caine Hazen   See, I'm not getting the "uncanny" f...   Mar 4 2008, 08:55 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...yeah, but at a price tag far beyond my means. I...   Mar 5 2008, 12:16 AM
- - Fuchs   I see Daz mainly as the best way so far to get my ...   Mar 5 2008, 12:41 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...no issue there. Have a similar situation in tha...   Mar 5 2008, 01:39 AM
- - Caine Hazen   Awesome.. D|S 2 should be all sorts of fun it look...   Mar 5 2008, 01:56 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...as forwarned (1st drafts) Hi Mr. Drone! V...   Mar 5 2008, 07:39 AM
- - Fuchs   Those look nice, I especially like the expressions...   Mar 5 2008, 07:43 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...thought about that but I don't have much in...   Mar 5 2008, 08:28 AM
- - Blade   QUOTE ("Caine Hazen")With the Uncanny di...   Mar 5 2008, 10:35 AM
- - Gray   I justs started playing around with DAZ 3D Studio....   Mar 6 2008, 06:28 PM
|- - MYST1C   QUOTE (Gray @ Mar 6 2008, 07:28 PM) Sam a...   Mar 6 2008, 09:13 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ..agreed. I like the cat (need to get some textur...   Mar 7 2008, 01:40 AM
|- - Gray   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Mar 6 2008, 08:40 PM) ...   Mar 7 2008, 02:50 PM
|- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Gray @ Mar 7 2008, 06:50 AM) The b...   Mar 7 2008, 04:08 PM
|- - Gray   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Mar 7 2008, 11:08 AM) ...   Mar 7 2008, 04:31 PM
- - Fuchs   Hm... I'll have to check what the set is calle...   Mar 7 2008, 03:28 PM
- - Fuchs   A try at an AR window in normal field of view   Mar 7 2008, 03:30 PM
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