 Direct Combat Spells, A few questions. |
 Dec 8 2007, 12:41 AM
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Well mainly one. When you cast a direct combat spell, the defender rolls the relevant attribute and you compare hits. If defender gets more spell fizzles. If caster gets more hits spell takes effect with force + net hits effect. Question is: does the defender get to resist damage now or do they automatically take force + net hits?
None of the text I have read on spell summary clearly says what happens at the "Determine Effect" step with regards to damage and resistance. Any help would be appreciated. |
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crash2029 Direct Combat Spells Dec 8 2007, 12:41 AM
Jaid the defender gets no damage resist against direct ... Dec 8 2007, 12:52 AM Fortune QUOTE (crash2029) Well mainly one. When you cast a... Dec 8 2007, 01:06 AM Whipstitch Yes, which is why direct combat spells have an ann... Dec 8 2007, 03:03 AM Jaid actually, the drain on indirect spells isn't t... Dec 8 2007, 03:33 AM Whipstitch That's true, but then the silly bastards went ... Dec 8 2007, 03:40 AM MaxMahem Just tell him its magic. They are getting hit by ... Dec 8 2007, 03:48 AM Narse Um... isn't the Clout® family of spells (brou... Dec 8 2007, 04:29 AM Fortune QUOTE (Narse) Um... isn't the Clout® family o... Dec 8 2007, 04:45 AM Whipstitch It's also only stun damage, which is why I nev... Dec 8 2007, 04:49 AM Narse Well then, just make a bitchslap family of spells ... Dec 8 2007, 05:58 AM Ryu Talk him into giving you a 5BP/10 karma advantage ... Dec 8 2007, 12:30 PM GentlemanLoser QUOTE (Jaid) the defender gets no damage resist ag... Dec 8 2007, 08:04 PM Fortune QUOTE (GentlemanLoser @ Dec 9 2007, 06:04 AM)... Dec 8 2007, 08:26 PM DTFarstar If that is the way you want to play it that's ... Dec 8 2007, 08:32 PM hyzmarca QUOTE (DTFarstar) If that is the way you want to p... Dec 8 2007, 08:38 PM DTFarstar I know, though apparently phrased myself poorly in... Dec 8 2007, 09:34 PM GentlemanLoser My word... Then D Spells are totally broken and gr... Dec 8 2007, 09:59 PM kzt That's a feature, not a bug. Or so I... Dec 8 2007, 10:30 PM GentlemanLoser A follow on question then.
Upon taking damage, un... Dec 8 2007, 10:44 PM Synner QUOTE (GentlemanLoser @ Dec 8 2007, 09:59 PM)... Dec 8 2007, 10:48 PM GentlemanLoser QUOTE (Synner @ Dec 8 2007, 05:48 PM) QUOTE (... Dec 8 2007, 10:52 PM kzt Lots of counterspelling. Oodles of counterspellin... Dec 8 2007, 11:09 PM GentlemanLoser And even more likely for the 12 Bod Troll (with im... Dec 8 2007, 11:16 PM hyzmarca QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) So again, why ever use an i... Dec 9 2007, 12:20 AM GentlemanLoser How about adding in a sustained Deflection on the ... Dec 9 2007, 12:37 AM DTFarstar I think the point we are all making here isn't... Dec 9 2007, 12:48 AM GentlemanLoser I see it more like ID spells are comparable to oth... Dec 9 2007, 01:14 AM Particle_Beam Then people should try to use edge, and most impor... Dec 9 2007, 03:09 AM hyzmarca Actually, in SR3 it was possible to make it extrem... Dec 9 2007, 03:21 AM GentlemanLoser I'd still like to find out where under casting... Dec 9 2007, 10:25 AM Fortune You do get a Damage Resistance roll (of sorts). Th... Dec 9 2007, 10:44 AM GentlemanLoser As said above, it's not a Damage Resistance Te... Dec 9 2007, 11:22 AM DTFarstar *shrug* Gonna have to go with Synner, Frank, and s... Dec 9 2007, 11:41 AM Ryu Your mileage does vary.
As direct spells do not o... Dec 9 2007, 12:46 PM toturi QUOTE (Ryu) Your mileage does vary.
As direct spe... Dec 9 2007, 01:20 PM Fortune QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) As said above, it's not... Dec 9 2007, 01:51 PM FrankTrollman How many people who object to the all-or-nothing a... Dec 9 2007, 02:35 PM Jhaiisiin In our group, we interpreted the damage resistance... Dec 9 2007, 08:10 PM GentlemanLoser I agree Frank, but Petrify has a few drawbacks. I... Dec 9 2007, 09:08 PM GentlemanLoser QUOTE (Fortune) QUOTE (GentlemanLoser @ Dec 9... Dec 9 2007, 09:09 PM hyzmarca QUOTE (Ryu @ Dec 9 2007, 07:46 AM) Your milea... Dec 9 2007, 09:46 PM Stahlseele QUOTE So, a genetically engineered pot-smoking dwa... Dec 9 2007, 10:08 PM Ryu The limit on hits force provides does not limit ma... Dec 9 2007, 10:27 PM hobgoblin so thats what those dwarfs have in their pipes, de... Dec 9 2007, 10:28 PM Fortune QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) QUOTE (Fortune @ Dec 9... Dec 9 2007, 10:32 PM GentlemanLoser QUOTE First, with Indirect Combat Spells, there is... Dec 9 2007, 10:40 PM Stahlseele QUOTE And what happens if QuikRik got 5 on his rea... Dec 9 2007, 10:50 PM GentlemanLoser What's the diference between ireball and Manab... Dec 9 2007, 10:51 PM kzt If you have 21 dice for sorcery tests so you can r... Dec 9 2007, 10:54 PM Ryu I never send my runners against an enemy team with... Dec 10 2007, 12:42 AM JBlades QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) What's the diference be... Dec 10 2007, 12:53 AM toturi QUOTE (Ryu) I never send my runners against an ene... Dec 10 2007, 01:34 AM DTFarstar Have the mage cover his sec budies with counterspe... Dec 10 2007, 01:57 AM toturi QUOTE (DTFarstar) Have the mage cover his sec budi... Dec 10 2007, 02:05 AM Ryu I´ll counter mana static with aspected mana stati... Dec 10 2007, 11:18 AM toturi QUOTE (Ryu) I´ll counter mana static with aspecte... Dec 10 2007, 11:56 AM Moon-Hawk QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) What's the diference be... Dec 10 2007, 04:40 PM Tarantula QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) What's the diference be... Dec 10 2007, 06:24 PM GentlemanLoser QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) QUOTE (GentlemanLoser @ Dec... Dec 10 2007, 08:42 PM Eryk the Red No, direct spells can only affect targets that are... Dec 10 2007, 08:46 PM DTFarstar The way we play it with indirect spells and grenad... Dec 10 2007, 08:48 PM Tarantula Thats good for you DTF, but that isn't how RAW... Dec 10 2007, 08:55 PM Fortune QUOTE (Tarantula) Thats good for you DTF, but that... Dec 10 2007, 08:59 PM Tarantula QUOTE (Fortune @ Dec 10 2007, 02:59 PM) QUOTE... Dec 10 2007, 09:02 PM GentlemanLoser QUOTE (Eryk the Red) No, direct spells can only af... Dec 10 2007, 09:14 PM Kyoto Kid QUOTE (Synner)In my experience of typical SR comba... Dec 10 2007, 09:14 PM Fortune QUOTE (Tarantula) If his armor is 6+ then the dama... Dec 10 2007, 09:15 PM Tarantula QUOTE (Fortune @ Dec 10 2007, 03:15 PM) QUOTE... Dec 10 2007, 09:19 PM kzt QUOTE (DTFarstar) The way we play it with indirect... Dec 10 2007, 09:23 PM Tarantula Its not so much that the grenade missed hitting th... Dec 10 2007, 09:45 PM crash2029 Wow I never figured I would be starting one of tho... Dec 10 2007, 10:48 PM Fortune QUOTE (crash2029) ... have fun flogging the horse... Dec 10 2007, 11:01 PM kzt QUOTE (Tarantula) A successful reaction test means... Dec 11 2007, 01:21 AM DTFarstar Thanks for pointing that out Tarantula, but there ... Dec 11 2007, 01:28 AM Apathy QUOTE (kzt @ Dec 10 2007, 08:21 PM) QUOTE (Ta... Dec 11 2007, 01:46 AM hyzmarca Actually, with a grenade defender dodge successes ... Dec 11 2007, 02:08 AM Tarantula QUOTE (DTFarstar @ Dec 10 2007, 07:28 PM) in ... Dec 11 2007, 05:59 AM DTFarstar I would easily consider the damage I took to be at... Dec 11 2007, 07:30 AM DTFarstar Also, would like to say when talking about grenade... Dec 11 2007, 07:31 AM
SCARed QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)QUOTE (Synner)In my experience of... Dec 11 2007, 01:47 PM  |
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