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Zolhex
post Dec 2 2003, 01:41 AM
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I started to flesh out a character today and ran into a question.

I am making a magical character and was woundering is it legal to use spell points like karma?

For foci and what not.

Next I thought that spirits required karma to be bound but I find nothing on this.

Next do conjurers get the spell points that come with being an aspected magician?

Lastly if you can use spell points as karma is it also useable as karma for the costs of putting together an ally spirit?

Please remember though I am looking to get clarification on the rules as they appear in the books. This has to be a by the book character.

Thanks in advance.
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- Casazil   Spirits   Dec 2 2003, 01:41 AM
- - mfb   you can use spell points as karma for magic type s...   Dec 2 2003, 01:45 AM
- - Azryl   Yes, you may spend spell points as if they were ka...   Dec 2 2003, 01:46 AM
- - mfb   right, but only for magic stuff--foci, spirits, ya...   Dec 2 2003, 01:58 AM
- - Catsnightmare   That depends. IIRC there is an option in the Shad...   Dec 2 2003, 02:06 AM
- - OurTeam   Spending initial Spell Points as if were Karma, fo...   Dec 2 2003, 02:29 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (mfb) no, spirits don't cost karma unles...   Dec 2 2003, 02:38 AM
- - mfb   *snort* i wouldn't even call that an opinion. ...   Dec 2 2003, 05:27 AM
- - Dende   Well 20,000 nuyen or 40 karma for something that c...   Dec 2 2003, 05:30 AM
- - Fortune   Come to think of it, I believe that it's 1 Spe...   Dec 2 2003, 05:34 AM
- - moosegod   It's not even worth thinking about for a shama...   Dec 2 2003, 05:37 AM
- - Abstruse   Doesn't matter if you're an aspected conju...   Dec 2 2003, 10:39 AM
- - Sphynx   Level of Initiation and Invoking would be good, th...   Dec 2 2003, 10:52 AM
- - Saintgrimm   What page is Invoking on? I am assuming it is in M...   Dec 2 2003, 05:56 PM
- - OurTeam   The Table of Contents and Index both say Invoking ...   Dec 2 2003, 06:10 PM
- - Saintgrimm   Imagine me dumb... oh wait, that's not a stret...   Dec 2 2003, 08:08 PM
- - OurTeam   Yeah, Saintgrimm. Since I know I look pretty dumb...   Dec 2 2003, 08:54 PM
- - Lilt   As several other people have said already, buying ...   Dec 2 2003, 08:57 PM
- - Casazil   Ok for those with the question yes I'm making ...   Dec 2 2003, 10:34 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (E.O.T.L.F.) So the question is start with a...   Dec 2 2003, 11:09 PM
- - Lilt   There are a number of views on wether or not it...   Dec 2 2003, 11:31 PM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (Fortune) Or start with a bonded Spirit Focu...   Dec 2 2003, 11:35 PM
- - Lilt   Heh. You'd probably be better taking a power ...   Dec 2 2003, 11:46 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (E.O.T.L.F.) QUOTE (Fortune @ Dec 2 200...   Dec 3 2003, 12:07 AM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (Fortune) Unless you plan on having all of t...   Dec 3 2003, 01:42 AM
- - mfb   shamanic conjurors are badass. you people don...   Dec 3 2003, 02:39 AM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (mfb) EOTLF, get T:Awakened Lands. Not a...   Dec 3 2003, 03:59 AM
- - Lilt   Shamanic conjurors are pretty badass... they do ne...   Dec 3 2003, 12:11 PM
- - Casazil   Ok here is what I came up with: A-Resources-Bough...   Dec 3 2003, 07:44 PM
- - moosegod   Gentile? You a jew? Just kidding. Can't...   Dec 3 2003, 07:46 PM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (moosegod) Gentile? You a jew? Just ki...   Dec 3 2003, 07:55 PM
- - moosegod   Sorry, forgot the elfness.   Dec 3 2003, 08:00 PM
- - Lilt   Hmm. It strikes me that your character is planning...   Dec 3 2003, 10:23 PM
- - moosegod   This is why trolls make great summoners. Their ma...   Dec 3 2003, 10:29 PM
- - Lilt   Umm... What do you mean? Trolls make terrible conj...   Dec 3 2003, 10:30 PM
- - moosegod   You summon up spirits beyond your charisma, accept...   Dec 3 2003, 10:33 PM
- - Lilt   Physical drain is still resisted with charisma tho...   Dec 3 2003, 10:39 PM
- - moosegod   It is? Oh, drek.   Dec 3 2003, 10:42 PM
- - Lilt   No worries. I thought that too at one point. It wa...   Dec 3 2003, 10:44 PM
- - moosegod   Not that I doubt you, but you have a page ref for ...   Dec 3 2003, 10:53 PM
- - Lilt   It's not truly stated explicitly, but under Dr...   Dec 3 2003, 11:14 PM
- - moosegod   But you still resist over-powered spells with body...   Dec 4 2003, 12:44 AM
- - Lilt   OK here's a conjurer knocked-up to my personal...   Dec 4 2003, 01:08 AM
- - Lilt   QUOTE (moosegod) But you still resist over-powered...   Dec 4 2003, 01:12 AM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (Lilt) I assume that you were talking about ...   Dec 4 2003, 02:57 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (E.O.T.L.F.) QUOTE (Lilt @ Dec 3 2003, ...   Dec 4 2003, 03:04 AM
- - Casazil   Now however I was inspired to make some changes as...   Dec 4 2003, 03:11 AM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (Fortune) on top of the cost of the Spirit i...   Dec 4 2003, 03:13 AM
- - Lilt   QUOTE (Fortune)Yes, but you can't make rolls b...   Dec 4 2003, 03:14 AM
- - Lilt   QUOTE (E.O.T.L.F. @ Dec 4 2003, 03:13 AM) ok ...   Dec 4 2003, 03:18 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (E.O.T.L.F.) ok so how much does a spirit co...   Dec 4 2003, 03:19 AM
- - Casazil   Amazeing that this rule is not in any way refered ...   Dec 4 2003, 03:45 AM
- - Lilt   QUOTE (E.O.T.L.F.)Now however I was inspired to ma...   Dec 4 2003, 03:47 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (E.O.T.L.F.)Amazeing that this rule is not i...   Dec 4 2003, 03:57 AM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (Lilt) Also: the rounding down is done to th...   Dec 4 2003, 04:16 AM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (Fortune) Why should it be in the Spirit sec...   Dec 4 2003, 04:18 AM
- - Lilt   What I was talking about was your statement: QUOTE...   Dec 4 2003, 12:29 PM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (Lilt) So a starting magician with Essence 6...   Dec 4 2003, 08:01 PM
- - Lilt   Look at the example again. They round down the mag...   Dec 4 2003, 09:42 PM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (Lilt) Look at the example again. They round...   Dec 4 2003, 10:42 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (E.O.T.L.F.) Magic has a starting value equa...   Dec 4 2003, 11:11 PM
- - Bölverk   QUOTE (E.O.T.L.F.)This is the sentence it has a be...   Dec 4 2003, 11:19 PM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (Bölverk) [the character's Essence minus...   Dec 4 2003, 11:40 PM
- - Fortune   Why is it that you are the only one to see it that...   Dec 4 2003, 11:47 PM
- - Rattler   QUOTE (5.8 - 0.5 = 5.3, rounded down to 5). That ...   Dec 4 2003, 11:47 PM
- - Casazil   Ok I see things from my perspective that is all th...   Dec 5 2003, 12:31 AM
- - Fortune   So, in your games, as long as a character stays be...   Dec 5 2003, 12:40 AM
- - Casazil   So it would seem like I said something for me to t...   Dec 5 2003, 12:59 AM
- - Lilt   Not quite. Having bioware installed lowers your bo...   Dec 5 2003, 01:20 AM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Fortune) Why is it that you are the only on...   Dec 5 2003, 06:48 AM
- - snowRaven   Note the comma: Magic has a starting value equal t...   Dec 5 2003, 12:34 PM


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