 Riggers and Remote Operations, Remote-crontrolling a turret with your mind uses... Agility? |
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Decker on the Threshold  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156  |
Huh. I was humming along, building a rigger under the new SR rules, and was somewhat surprised to find out that physical attributes are now used for jumped-in riggers doing remote operations. Gunnery now uses Agility; piloting now uses Reaction, even when in full VR with your body "switched off."
When did this happen? And how does it make sense, especially given that: 1) Mages still use Mental Attributes when astrally projecting, and 2) Cyborgs use the Vehicle/drone's attributes. So, um, how does that work exactly? Shouldn't Gunnery be linked to Logic, like it was in SR3? Should Pilot(remote Operation) be linked to Intuition? Or should we go further and allow a rigger's high Str to provide recoil compensation, and the rigger's Body for vehicle damage resistance tests? |
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Eyeless Blond Riggers and Remote Operations Mar 20 2008, 02:27 AM
Jaid look closer. you use response for most attributes ... Mar 20 2008, 02:30 AM b1ffov3rfl0w I think this was covered in the errata -- you use ... Mar 20 2008, 02:40 AM Eyeless Blond Nothing in the Errata. Do you mean the "FAQ... Mar 20 2008, 03:29 AM BFaolan The FAQ says 'sensor + gunnery'
The BBB s... Mar 20 2008, 03:33 AM Eyeless Blond Er, that's for the "sensor-enhanced... Mar 20 2008, 12:00 PM hobgoblin http://shadowrun4.com/resources/faq.shtml#8 Mar 20 2008, 12:19 PM hermit I've said this before, and I'm happy to re... Mar 20 2008, 01:17 PM Drogos Riggers were HAUS in SR3. Yes, they have been sha... Mar 20 2008, 01:24 PM Nightwalker450 Your physical attributes have little to do with ri... Mar 20 2008, 01:28 PM hermit Theoretically, he could do that better than in 3 (... Mar 20 2008, 01:34 PM Drogos True, he could be all in 4, but then he becomes a ... Mar 20 2008, 01:43 PM hermit Exactly.
And in SR3, a drone rigger would be an ... Mar 20 2008, 01:55 PM Drogos QUOTE Is for the RuPo sail boat: You are aware tha... Mar 20 2008, 02:07 PM hermit QUOTE Yep, but in SR3 all rules for Sensor and all... Mar 20 2008, 02:19 PM Drogos The Captain was a face (me) with 1,000,000 at sta... Mar 20 2008, 02:23 PM hermit Sheesh, that's bad.
Riggers in SR3 weren... Mar 20 2008, 02:27 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Mar 19 2008, 09:27... Mar 20 2008, 02:33 PM
Nightwalker450 QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Mar 20 2008, 09:33 A... Mar 20 2008, 02:54 PM hermit QUOTE Street Sams have the chance to physically dr... Mar 20 2008, 02:39 PM DireRadiant You still need to issue the command to the drone i... Mar 20 2008, 05:02 PM hobgoblin QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Mar 20 2008, 06:02 P... Mar 21 2008, 01:48 AM Eyeless Blond Hm. Okay, so instead of Agility you're wither ... Mar 20 2008, 09:45 PM b1ffov3rfl0w The Response of the vehicle or drone. Which, you... Mar 20 2008, 10:36 PM Jaid QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 20 2008, 10:39 AM) Oh... Mar 21 2008, 03:21 AM hermit Uh-hunh. So a very important vehicle attribute isn... Mar 21 2008, 11:10 AM DireRadiant QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 06:10 AM) Uh... Mar 21 2008, 02:54 PM Eyeless Blond Can you have a rating 6 autosoft? I thought they w... Mar 21 2008, 02:48 PM hermit They were? Okay, my bad then I guess.
Then you... Mar 21 2008, 02:51 PM hermit QUOTE Not sure how the street sam can get VR bonus... Mar 21 2008, 03:02 PM Nightwalker450 I think hackers/riggers need more ways to boost th... Mar 21 2008, 03:11 PM hermit QUOTE I think hackers/riggers need more ways to bo... Mar 21 2008, 03:15 PM Synner There are very specific limits on autosofts, skill... Mar 21 2008, 03:26 PM Moon-Hawk QUOTE (Synner @ Mar 21 2008, 10:26 AM) No... Mar 21 2008, 04:15 PM hermit It's less than brilliant to have to go through... Mar 21 2008, 03:29 PM Jaid QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 11:29 AM) It... Mar 21 2008, 04:17 PM Synner QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 03:29 PM) It... Mar 21 2008, 04:36 PM Nightwalker450 QUOTE (Synner @ Mar 21 2008, 11:36 AM) An... Mar 21 2008, 04:44 PM Nightwalker450 QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 10:15 AM) An... Mar 21 2008, 04:25 PM hermit QUOTE riggers are perfectly playable should you ha... Mar 21 2008, 04:32 PM hermit QUOTE They are more fun to play. You should build ... Mar 21 2008, 04:54 PM Synner QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 04:54 PM) I ... Mar 21 2008, 05:24 PM Ryu Rigger concept:
- hacker skillset and gear, priori... Mar 21 2008, 05:38 PM hermit QUOTE I'm really not sure what you mean here, ... Mar 21 2008, 05:53 PM Eyeless Blond QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 10:53 AM) Wi... Mar 21 2008, 06:16 PM Synner QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 05:53 PM) Wi... Mar 21 2008, 06:22 PM DreadPirateKitten For rigging, let me ask a question:
Is there any ... Mar 23 2008, 12:33 PM Jaid QUOTE (DreadPirateKitten @ Mar 23 2008, 07... Mar 23 2008, 02:50 PM Fortune QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 22 2008, 04:53 AM) Al... Mar 21 2008, 06:30 PM Ryu QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 06:53 PM) Th... Mar 21 2008, 06:40 PM hermit QUOTE I agree this discuhttp://forums.dumpshock.co... Mar 21 2008, 06:48 PM Synner QUOTE My current GM recently complaeined about one... Mar 21 2008, 06:59 PM Fortune It saves him money at chargen as well, since you o... Mar 21 2008, 07:03 PM Nightwalker450 QUOTE (Fortune @ Mar 21 2008, 02:03 PM) I... Mar 21 2008, 07:19 PM hermit QUOTE Apologies, I should have been clearer. Pleas... Mar 21 2008, 07:53 PM Nightwalker450 QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 02:53 PM) Co... Mar 21 2008, 08:01 PM Jaid QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 03:53 PM) Co... Mar 21 2008, 10:15 PM hermit Exactly, all the more with Analyse AND an agent wi... Mar 21 2008, 08:07 PM Nightwalker450 QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 03:07 PM) Ex... Mar 21 2008, 08:13 PM hermit Ah,. okay. Still makes sense, I guess. Maybe have ... Mar 21 2008, 08:18 PM hermit I am neither talking about starter characters nor ... Mar 21 2008, 10:24 PM Fortune Analyze is still capped by Response, which is capp... Mar 22 2008, 03:30 AM hermit Uhm .. then it would be analyse 5. Might be I conf... Mar 22 2008, 08:46 AM Fortune Maximum listed so far is 6, but higher-rated milit... Mar 22 2008, 08:56 AM hermit Okay ... you sure? I have been explained different... Mar 22 2008, 10:26 AM Ryu Firewall is a software-based matrix attribute, the... Mar 22 2008, 11:20 AM Fortune Yeah, I'm sure. We've been through it here... Mar 22 2008, 11:32 AM hermit That's a nice rules back door to at least help... Mar 22 2008, 11:37 AM Jaid 18 DP is a little bit on the extreme side for a ch... Mar 22 2008, 10:14 PM hermit An Attention coprocessor, on the other hand, reall... Mar 23 2008, 02:56 PM Eyeless Blond Oh, and what about Smartlinks? If you're jumpe... Mar 25 2008, 06:15 AM hermit A‚ smartlink component in the drone's se... Mar 25 2008, 12:27 PM Jaid QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 25 2008, 07:27 AM) Aâ... Mar 25 2008, 04:30 PM  |
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