 calling out hermit, Rigger vs Pilot |
 Mar 21 2008, 04:08 PM
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seems like the trend lately is to start up challenge threads to prove a point, and this one is getting on my nerves.
so hermit, you keep on going on and on about how autopilots are better than riggers in SR4. well fine, bring it on. you tell me what you're doing with the pilot, show me some numbers, and i will tell you how an actual rigger will blow it out of the water. |
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Jaid calling out hermit Mar 21 2008, 04:08 PM
Nightwalker450 The autopilots aren't necessarily better, but ... Mar 21 2008, 04:11 PM
Synner QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Mar 21 2008, 04:1... Mar 21 2008, 04:17 PM hermit Agents can act as autopilots, can't they?
Any... Mar 21 2008, 04:18 PM Jaid QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 12:18 PM) Ag... Mar 21 2008, 04:43 PM Nightwalker450 QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 21 2008, 11:43 AM) the ... Mar 21 2008, 04:52 PM Jaid QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Mar 21 2008, 12:5... Mar 21 2008, 04:54 PM Synner QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Mar 21 2008, 04:5... Mar 21 2008, 05:01 PM Synner QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 04:18 PM) Ag... Mar 21 2008, 04:48 PM CircuitBoyBlue It seems to me that if you want a phenomenal dice ... Mar 21 2008, 04:20 PM Nightwalker450 QUOTE (Synner @ Mar 21 2008, 11:17 AM) I... Mar 21 2008, 04:31 PM hermit QUOTE Your math is incomplete, as has been shown. ... Mar 21 2008, 04:54 PM Jaid QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 12:54 PM) So... Mar 21 2008, 05:02 PM Shadow Hey Synn, I think he is using "average" ... Mar 21 2008, 05:06 PM Jaid QUOTE (Shadow @ Mar 21 2008, 01:06 PM) He... Mar 21 2008, 05:13 PM Eyeless Blond QUOTE (Shadow @ Mar 21 2008, 10:06 AM) He... Mar 21 2008, 05:37 PM hermit QUOTE seriously. you don't have a clue what yo... Mar 21 2008, 05:11 PM Jaid QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 01:11 PM) Tr... Mar 21 2008, 05:20 PM Moon-Hawk QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 12:11 PM) Al... Mar 21 2008, 05:50 PM Synner QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 05:11 PM) Ho... Mar 21 2008, 05:52 PM hermit QUOTE plus the rigger can just use pretty much any... Mar 21 2008, 05:21 PM paws2sky QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 12:21 PM) An... Mar 21 2008, 05:23 PM Jaid QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 01:21 PM) He... Mar 21 2008, 05:38 PM Spike Wow, this thread turned bitter quick!
I just ... Mar 21 2008, 05:23 PM Drogos Just check the forum title Mar 21 2008, 05:23 PM Drogos Hermit...Are you Gallahad on another set of boards... Mar 21 2008, 05:41 PM DireRadiant I do have to admit that Hermit is correct when poi... Mar 21 2008, 05:57 PM Whipstitch Erm, don't forget that the VCR bonuses etc. do... Mar 21 2008, 06:17 PM hermit QUOTE Maybe if you're using vehicles out of th... Mar 21 2008, 06:17 PM Synner QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 06:17 PM) Th... Mar 21 2008, 06:33 PM Nightwalker450 QUOTE (Synner @ Mar 21 2008, 01:33 PM) Ag... Mar 21 2008, 07:05 PM Jaid QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Mar 21 2008, 03:0... Mar 21 2008, 10:32 PM Whipstitch QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Mar 21 2008, 02:0... Mar 21 2008, 11:26 PM Whipstitch More like 4 dice. I know it's hard to wrap you... Mar 21 2008, 06:32 PM Fortune Mundane Riggers were next to useless against Adept... Mar 21 2008, 06:39 PM hermit QUOTE Mundane Riggers were next to useless against... Mar 21 2008, 07:04 PM Fortune QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 22 2008, 06:04 AM) Ad... Mar 21 2008, 07:30 PM hermit QUOTE You are aware that Adepts could also get imp... Mar 21 2008, 08:05 PM Mikado QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 03:05 PM) a)... Mar 21 2008, 10:14 PM hermit QUOTE Actually, IIRC, Adept powers in 3rd ed (and ... Mar 21 2008, 10:21 PM hermit QUOTE most drones you'll use in combat will be... Mar 21 2008, 10:50 PM b1ffov3rfl0w QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 05:50 PM) Ye... Mar 21 2008, 11:02 PM Jaid QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 05:50 PM) Ye... Mar 21 2008, 11:07 PM hermit QUOTE Best Drone Vs. Best Rigger Shootout
6 Pilot
... Mar 21 2008, 11:32 PM Jaid QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 06:32 PM) +2... Mar 21 2008, 11:35 PM Whipstitch Fine. Give it to the Rigger then as well, if you... Mar 21 2008, 11:34 PM Ryu Gunnery is a vehicle skill. Thats +2 from the rig ... Mar 22 2008, 12:04 AM kzt QUOTE (Ryu @ Mar 21 2008, 05:04 PM) If yo... Mar 22 2008, 04:49 AM Ryu QUOTE (kzt @ Mar 22 2008, 05:49 AM) If yo... Mar 22 2008, 11:46 AM hermit QUOTE Gunnery is a vehicle skill. Thats +2 from th... Mar 22 2008, 12:15 AM Whipstitch QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 07:15 PM) Uh... Mar 22 2008, 12:19 AM Aaron QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Mar 21 2008, 06:19 PM... Mar 22 2008, 01:11 AM Nightwalker450 QUOTE (Aaron @ Mar 21 2008, 08:11 PM) I d... Mar 22 2008, 01:12 AM Sma Some numbers:
Drone:
Response 5, Pilot 4, Autosof... Mar 22 2008, 12:18 AM Lyonheart With my rigger it quickly became "Shadowrun, ... Mar 22 2008, 12:31 AM Whipstitch Because not every situation with a "drone... Mar 22 2008, 12:37 AM hermit QUOTE Each time the drone suffers damage, the rigg... Mar 22 2008, 12:43 AM Zak QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 07:43 PM) Ap... Mar 22 2008, 12:55 AM Jaid Sma, i repeat: there are no autosofts above rating... Mar 22 2008, 12:46 AM hermit Rigger 3.01d was retranslated as Rigger 3 Revised,... Mar 22 2008, 01:08 AM hermit I knew something killed my character. Mar 22 2008, 01:13 AM Jaid QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 09:13 PM) I ... Mar 22 2008, 01:23 AM hermit Well, I had no Biofeedback filter running, so prop... Mar 22 2008, 01:41 AM Jaid QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 08:41 PM) We... Mar 22 2008, 02:17 AM Nostalgic Jester I just found this thread and finished to read it t... Mar 22 2008, 02:33 AM Jaid QUOTE (Nostalgic Jester @ Mar 21 2008, 10... Mar 22 2008, 02:51 AM Nostalgic Jester QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 21 2008, 10:51 PM) ...t... Mar 22 2008, 03:24 AM Whipstitch Most of the time the Rigger is either:
A. Ensconc... Mar 22 2008, 02:45 AM masterofm Can't they be one and the same? I mean why ca... Mar 22 2008, 03:36 AM hermit QUOTE with a technomancer in that situation, you c... Mar 22 2008, 09:18 AM hermit QUOTE True. Thats why I build riggers on a hacker ... Mar 22 2008, 11:51 AM Synner Cool, I take the night to work and a lot of the is... Mar 22 2008, 12:29 PM It trolls! I can somewhat understand hermit's point thoug... Mar 22 2008, 12:53 PM hermit QUOTE Sorry, but that's a given with the strea... Mar 22 2008, 12:56 PM Synner QUOTE I'll try the minimum TM, the maxed-out r... Mar 22 2008, 01:16 PM hermit QUOTE Why the 900 karma rigger?
Because that's... Mar 22 2008, 03:46 PM Synner QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 22 2008, 03:46 PM) Be... Mar 22 2008, 07:34 PM Tycho QUOTE (Synner @ Mar 22 2008, 03:34 PM) Ob... Mar 22 2008, 08:01 PM Mäx If you are the (mundane)rigger of the team and any... Mar 22 2008, 04:09 PM hermit Because a) they exist and b) the GM will eventuall... Mar 22 2008, 05:09 PM BishopMcQ QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 22 2008, 09:09 AM) An... Mar 22 2008, 05:59 PM Whipstitch Uh, no? The hardcap on IPs is set at 4. No excepti... Mar 22 2008, 05:13 PM ArkonC QUOTE ('BBB p. 238')Echoes
A technomancer ... Mar 22 2008, 05:38 PM hermit First edition german core rules books seem to suck... Mar 22 2008, 05:50 PM Tycho QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 22 2008, 01:50 PM) Fi... Mar 22 2008, 07:03 PM hermit I'll have to work this out with Angier, so it ... Mar 22 2008, 06:56 PM hermit QUOTE you should read the book more carefully, the... Mar 22 2008, 07:28 PM hermit QUOTE Comparing out of chargen is much more import... Mar 22 2008, 07:42 PM Synner QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 22 2008, 07:42 PM) Wh... Mar 22 2008, 08:02 PM Whipstitch Yes, that will surely have no consequences whatsoe... Mar 22 2008, 07:43 PM hermit QUOTE Yes, that will surely have no consequences w... Mar 22 2008, 08:01 PM masterofm Well what it seems to me now is you just don't... Mar 22 2008, 08:02 PM masterofm If your drones operate without wireless access how... Mar 22 2008, 08:07 PM hermit QUOTE Seriously? I'm assuming you've never... Mar 22 2008, 08:19 PM Whipstitch It does stand on its own two feet as a concept. It... Mar 22 2008, 08:25 PM hermit Uhm ... hunh? how would he? He'd just hack the... Mar 22 2008, 08:28 PM Whipstitch I meant wired vehicle. My bad. TMs tend to rely on... Mar 22 2008, 08:36 PM hermit Allright. Yeah, that'd propably make the mance... Mar 22 2008, 08:43 PM Whipstitch QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 22 2008, 03:43 PM) Al... Mar 22 2008, 09:13 PM BishopMcQ Hermit--Reading through many of your comments/crit... Mar 22 2008, 09:08 PM  |
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