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nathanross
post Apr 20 2008, 09:52 PM
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Okay, now I gave one of my players a minigun to help clear out a ghoul nest and it was totally fucking worthless. It is only useful for suppressive fire? How can you really make use of it when you suffer a -15DP to shoot it? Also, how much recoil compensation do drones have? He also has a Lynx with a Vindicator, and for it to shoot with recoil means it has no dice left to hit. Please help!
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- nathanross   Minigun Recoil   Apr 20 2008, 09:52 PM
- - Aaron   You say "only useful for suppressive fire...   Apr 20 2008, 10:02 PM
- - Aaron   It would seem (p. 105, Arsenal) that vehicle-mount...   Apr 20 2008, 10:10 PM
- - Zen Shooter01   Some weapons aren't actually intended to be ma...   Apr 20 2008, 10:26 PM
- - Larme   QUOTE (nathanross @ Apr 20 2008, 05:52 PM...   Apr 20 2008, 10:30 PM
|- - Shiloh   QUOTE (Larme @ Apr 20 2008, 11:30 PM) Get...   Apr 21 2008, 10:35 AM
- - Cabral   Miniguns should be used for suppressive fire (comb...   Apr 20 2008, 10:31 PM
- - Squinky   Don't forget the rules for strength adding int...   Apr 20 2008, 10:49 PM
- - Fortune   In my world Miniguns cannot accept barrel mounts (...   Apr 20 2008, 10:51 PM
|- - Squinky   QUOTE (Fortune @ Apr 20 2008, 06:51 PM) I...   Apr 20 2008, 10:52 PM
|- - WearzManySkins   QUOTE (Fortune @ Apr 20 2008, 05:51 PM) I...   Apr 20 2008, 11:02 PM
|- - HentaiZonga   QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Apr 20 2008, 11:0...   Apr 20 2008, 11:09 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Apr 21 2008, 01:0...   Apr 20 2008, 11:19 PM
||- - WearzManySkins   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 20 2008, 06:19 PM...   Apr 20 2008, 11:53 PM
|||- - MYST1C   QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Apr 21 2008, 01:5...   Apr 21 2008, 09:42 AM
||- - krakjen   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 21 2008, 01:19 AM...   Apr 20 2008, 11:59 PM
||- - Kerberos   QUOTE (krakjen @ Apr 20 2008, 06:59 PM) A...   Apr 21 2008, 05:46 AM
|- - Larme   QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Apr 20 2008, 06:0...   Apr 21 2008, 12:38 AM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (Larme @ Apr 21 2008, 10:38 AM) I d...   Apr 21 2008, 01:38 AM
|- - WearzManySkins   QUOTE (Larme @ Apr 20 2008, 07:38 PM) I d...   Apr 21 2008, 01:40 AM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Apr 21 2008, 02:4...   Apr 21 2008, 08:57 AM
- - Raven Bloodeyes   Agreed, after all the description on how they work...   Apr 20 2008, 11:12 PM
|- - HentaiZonga   QUOTE (Raven Bloodeyes @ Apr 20 2008, 11...   Apr 20 2008, 11:13 PM
- - CanRay   Well, depends on the situation... If you need to ...   Apr 20 2008, 11:50 PM
- - CanRay   "In order to get a Vindicator, your character...   Apr 21 2008, 12:50 AM
- - krakjen   But only if you go naked and steal also some leath...   Apr 21 2008, 01:13 AM
- - krakjen   Ahem. QUOTE (BBB p. 144)Suppressive fire is treate...   Apr 21 2008, 01:47 AM
- - Clyde   Miniguns are great for suppressive fire and drone ...   Apr 21 2008, 03:29 AM
|- - WearzManySkins   QUOTE (Clyde @ Apr 20 2008, 10:29 PM) Min...   Apr 21 2008, 03:38 AM
- - CanRay   You know, a gattling gun's rate of fire is bas...   Apr 21 2008, 03:46 AM
- - DTFarstar   Natural limit raised by 1 from Improved Attribute ...   Apr 21 2008, 03:52 AM
- - DTFarstar   WMS, Suppressive Fire is not subject to recoil pen...   Apr 21 2008, 03:53 AM
|- - WearzManySkins   QUOTE (DTFarstar @ Apr 20 2008, 10:53 PM)...   Apr 21 2008, 05:17 AM
|- - FriendoftheDork   QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Apr 21 2008, 07:1...   Apr 21 2008, 05:27 AM
- - Daier Mune   Gatling guns aren't designed for precice shoo...   Apr 21 2008, 05:01 AM
- - IQ Zero   Oh my, I feel like my groups are so deprived, none...   Apr 21 2008, 05:14 AM
- - Crusher Bob   If you really need the rate of fire, why not just ...   Apr 21 2008, 06:05 AM
- - ElFenrir   My buddy of mine has a character with a minigun. W...   Apr 21 2008, 10:54 AM
- - Critias   Think twice about what? All I'd be thinking w...   Apr 21 2008, 11:57 AM
- - GrepZen   I recall that the mini used in preadator was modif...   Apr 21 2008, 12:24 PM
|- - Daier Mune   QUOTE (GrepZen @ Apr 21 2008, 07:24 AM) I...   Apr 21 2008, 03:02 PM
|- - Shiloh   QUOTE (GrepZen @ Apr 21 2008, 01:24 PM) I...   Apr 21 2008, 03:53 PM
||- - Daier Mune   QUOTE (Shiloh @ Apr 21 2008, 10:53 AM) (w...   Apr 22 2008, 04:22 AM
||- - DocTaotsu   QUOTE (Daier Mune @ Apr 22 2008, 12:22 AM...   Apr 22 2008, 04:26 PM
||- - Daier Mune   QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ Apr 22 2008, 11:26 AM)...   Apr 23 2008, 01:08 AM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (GrepZen @ Apr 21 2008, 08:24 AM) I...   Apr 22 2008, 06:53 AM
|- - IC-Pick   QUOTE (Critias @ Apr 22 2008, 01:53 AM) F...   Apr 22 2008, 03:59 PM
- - Tarantula   Actually, with a tripod, (instead of a gyro harnes...   Apr 21 2008, 04:25 PM
|- - ornot   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Apr 21 2008, 12:25 PM)...   Apr 21 2008, 09:23 PM
- - CanRay   Which is the reason for the Vindicator, really. I...   Apr 21 2008, 04:33 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 21 2008, 06:33 PM) Wh...   Apr 21 2008, 05:28 PM
||- - CanRay   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 21 2008, 12:28 PM...   Apr 21 2008, 05:37 PM
||- - Ed_209a   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 21 2008, 01:28 PM...   Apr 21 2008, 06:59 PM
||- - CanRay   QUOTE (Ed_209a @ Apr 21 2008, 01:59 PM) A...   Apr 21 2008, 07:26 PM
|- - Shrapnel   QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 21 2008, 11:33 AM) Wh...   Apr 23 2008, 03:06 AM
|- - krakjen   QUOTE (Shrapnel @ Apr 23 2008, 05:06 AM) ...   Apr 23 2008, 05:40 AM
- - krakjen   That would be the Stoner-Ares M107 I guess.   Apr 21 2008, 05:07 PM
- - CanRay   Yep! Or the Ultimax HMG-2.   Apr 21 2008, 05:22 PM
- - IC-Pick   I always disagreed with the uncompensated recoil o...   Apr 21 2008, 06:53 PM
- - Stahlseele   no you would not . . with enough recoil-compensati...   Apr 21 2008, 07:25 PM
- - Stahlseele   i don't really know why it would stack . .   Apr 21 2008, 09:30 PM
- - Tarantula   I didn't include a gyromount in my recoil figu...   Apr 21 2008, 09:37 PM
- - Stahlseele   hmm . . would 2 cyber-arm gyromounts and the gyrom...   Apr 21 2008, 10:50 PM
- - Tarantula   No. The cyberarm gyromount states it is not cumul...   Apr 21 2008, 11:05 PM
- - WearzManySkins   If you are using a Tripod, gyro mounts(Harness or ...   Apr 21 2008, 11:39 PM
- - Serial_Peacemaker   The Best part is with the Military Armor you can p...   Apr 21 2008, 11:40 PM
- - Tarantula   Hrm, interesting.... Looking it over, the harness ...   Apr 21 2008, 11:45 PM
- - CanRay   Stick the Gyro-Harness onto the Tripod, and there ...   Apr 21 2008, 11:47 PM
- - WearzManySkins   Augmentation page 148 Emphasis mine QUOTE Recoil c...   Apr 21 2008, 11:47 PM
- - WearzManySkins   Obviously some here do not know what gyrostablizat...   Apr 21 2008, 11:49 PM
- - WearzManySkins   RAW page 311 emphasis mine QUOTE Gyro Stabilizatio...   Apr 21 2008, 11:55 PM
- - Tarantula   Yes wearz, that is the exact passage I was referri...   Apr 21 2008, 11:59 PM
- - aussie elf   It can be useful but you have to "want it...   Apr 22 2008, 05:24 AM
- - CanRay   That's a way to do it! Get a Troll Mage t...   Apr 22 2008, 04:32 PM
- - Tarantula   You mean enhance aim? Though, with double uncompe...   Apr 22 2008, 04:34 PM
- - CanRay   An actual Recoil Comp spell would be better indeed...   Apr 22 2008, 04:36 PM
- - Stahlseele   hmm . . would levitate keep the minigun in place i...   Apr 22 2008, 04:40 PM
- - ornot   I'm pretty sure the force dictates the strengt...   Apr 22 2008, 04:46 PM
|- - IC-Pick   QUOTE (ornot @ Apr 22 2008, 11:46 AM) I...   Apr 22 2008, 06:41 PM
- - Stahlseele   hrm, probably . . but a STR6 spell with the 6 hits...   Apr 22 2008, 04:49 PM
- - Tarantula   Levitate can't shoot the gun, thats what magic...   Apr 22 2008, 07:02 PM
- - IC-Pick   Actually levitate was to hold the weapon steady. ...   Apr 22 2008, 07:35 PM
- - Tarantula   And I'd argue again, levitate is not for fine ...   Apr 22 2008, 08:14 PM
- - IC-Pick   Oh right, gotcha, I wasn't using levitate itse...   Apr 22 2008, 08:21 PM
- - Stahlseele   Magic Hands, more Fine-control than Levitate, more...   Apr 22 2008, 08:23 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 22 2008, 03:23 PM...   Apr 22 2008, 08:24 PM
- - Stahlseele   bring 'em all, you know you want to *g*   Apr 22 2008, 08:28 PM
- - CanRay   Heavy Weapons Troll: "Only Mage gets to touc...   Apr 22 2008, 08:42 PM
|- - Fabe   QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 22 2008, 04:42 PM) He...   Apr 23 2008, 05:27 AM
- - Shrapnel   I also like to think of the Panther Cannon as bein...   Apr 23 2008, 05:54 AM
- - krakjen   A four column (double-double-stack) magazine with ...   Apr 23 2008, 06:09 AM
- - Stahlseele   ah, yes, the magical clip of howling . . erm, hold...   Apr 23 2008, 08:33 AM


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