Apr 30 2008, 02:15 PM
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So, reading through some of the SRM Denver adventures, I found an NPC who's basically a gunslinger adept. That piqued my interest enough to re-read the two-weapons rules.
The NPC in question has Ambidexterity, Agility 5, and Pistols 6(9). So, a hefty 14 DP for shooting. Not hard-maxed, but pretty close. FWIW, he also has smartlink contacts and a pair of smarted sliverguns, though that bonus doesn't apply to two-weapon fighting. Example 1: If he's firing a single shot with one gun, he has 16 dice. Throwing in a couple modifiers for -4 DP, he still has 12 dice for his attack. That's quite respectable. Example 2: If he's firing a single shot from each gun, he splits his dice pool. Let's say 7 dice for each shot. Throwing in that same -4 DP, he has 3 dice for each shot? That's lousy. Example 3: If he's firing a single shot from each gun, but this time he's trying to shoot at two different targets. He splits his dice pool. Let's say 8 and 6 dice. Throwing in that same -4 DP, plus the -2 for a second target, he has 2 dice for each shot? That's atrocious. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) Question: Now... since we apply modifiers after the DP is split, does that mean we can use Take Aim to boost our DP for each attack? Looking at Example 2, would this raise his dice pools to 3 and 4 (applying Take Aim to only one gun)? Or would it be 4 and 4 (applying Take Aim to both guns)? Conclusion: Obviously, the answer is not to try to be some Hardboiled wannabe... but doesn't that kind of defeat the point of the gunslinger adept concept? I guess I tended to picture them as some crazy Wu-like action hero, instead of a careful target shooter. Oh well. (On a humorous note: As I was working through a sample combat last night, the gunslinger critically glitched an attack with his off-hand gun, right after scoring about 5 hits on his primary gun. I was trying to figure out what might have happened... Maybe some of the flechettes ricocheted off something and struck him? Any other suggestions?) -paws |
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paws2sky Wicked Two-Gun Mojo Apr 30 2008, 02:15 PM
ZenGamer Since Shadowrun is a game that tries to mimic real... Apr 30 2008, 02:25 PM
MarCazm It's hard to aim with two weapons. We have two... Apr 30 2008, 02:26 PM
Nightwalker450 I'm in the process of creating the 2 gun wield... Apr 30 2008, 02:31 PM
Bearclaw QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Apr 30 2008, 07:3... Apr 30 2008, 03:48 PM
Kyoto Kid QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Apr 30 2008, 07:3... Apr 30 2008, 04:46 PM
paws2sky So, from the replies so far, I guess I am calculat... Apr 30 2008, 02:40 PM
ZenGamer QUOTE (paws2sky @ Apr 30 2008, 09:40 AM) ... Apr 30 2008, 02:49 PM

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ZenGamer QUOTE (paws2sky @ Apr 30 2008, 10:34 AM) ... Apr 30 2008, 04:12 PM


FriendoftheDork QUOTE (ZenGamer @ Apr 30 2008, 06:12 PM) ... Apr 30 2008, 10:18 PM

Janice QUOTE (ZenGamer @ Apr 30 2008, 06:49 AM) ... May 1 2008, 01:42 AM
Nightwalker450 QUOTE (paws2sky @ Apr 30 2008, 09:40 AM) ... Apr 30 2008, 02:51 PM
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Nightwalker450 QUOTE (paws2sky @ Apr 30 2008, 10:40 AM) ... Apr 30 2008, 03:44 PM
Drogos Well, with your specialty, the way I see it, you... Apr 30 2008, 03:34 PM
Nightwalker450 QUOTE (Drogos @ Apr 30 2008, 10:34 AM) We... Apr 30 2008, 03:37 PM
Drogos QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Apr 30 2008, 11:3... Apr 30 2008, 03:56 PM
Shiloh QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Apr 30 2008, 04:3... Apr 30 2008, 03:58 PM
Nightwalker450 QUOTE (Shiloh @ Apr 30 2008, 10:58 AM) No... Apr 30 2008, 04:12 PM
Drogos And as to "it's your game do whatever... Apr 30 2008, 03:39 PM
Sponge I know it's not explicitly stated in the rules... Apr 30 2008, 03:55 PM
Drogos QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Apr 30 2008, 11:3... Apr 30 2008, 04:20 PM
Nightwalker450 QUOTE (Drogos @ Apr 30 2008, 11:20 AM) Th... Apr 30 2008, 04:24 PM
Drogos Fair enough...could just pick revolvers and have t... Apr 30 2008, 04:26 PM
Aaron It's the same reason why fencing evolved into ... Apr 30 2008, 04:40 PM
Ciryx My wife and I are playing in a game right now and ... Apr 30 2008, 05:11 PM
paws2sky QUOTE (Ciryx @ Apr 30 2008, 12:11 PM) Fir... Apr 30 2008, 05:53 PM

Kingboy QUOTE (paws2sky @ Apr 30 2008, 01:53 PM) ... Apr 30 2008, 06:12 PM

paws2sky QUOTE (Kingboy @ Apr 30 2008, 01:12 PM) S... Apr 30 2008, 06:32 PM

Kingboy QUOTE (paws2sky @ Apr 30 2008, 02:32 PM) ... Apr 30 2008, 06:38 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Ciryx @ May 1 2008, 03:11 AM) I ga... Apr 30 2008, 10:18 PM
Mickle5125 Unless I'm misreading this somehow, the dual p... Apr 30 2008, 07:07 PM
paws2sky QUOTE (Mickle5125 @ Apr 30 2008, 02:07 PM... Apr 30 2008, 07:46 PM
Fortune QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 1 2008, 05:46 AM) H... Apr 30 2008, 10:26 PM
paws2sky QUOTE (Fortune @ Apr 30 2008, 06:26 PM) Y... May 1 2008, 03:16 AM
Fortune QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 1 2008, 01:16 PM) B... May 1 2008, 03:37 AM
HentaiZonga QUOTE (paws2sky @ Apr 30 2008, 08:16 PM) ... May 1 2008, 03:45 AM
Dumori Just an idea if you've got a low DP just lesse... Apr 30 2008, 08:39 PM
Mäx I think he could also take specility Semi-automati... Apr 30 2008, 08:45 PM
Triggerz QUOTE (Mäx @ Apr 30 2008, 04:45 PM) I th... May 2 2008, 05:36 AM
paws2sky QUOTE (Triggerz @ May 2 2008, 12:36 AM) T... May 2 2008, 02:22 PM
Shiloh QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 2 2008, 03:22 PM) T... May 2 2008, 02:37 PM
Fortune QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 3 2008, 12:22 AM) L... May 2 2008, 03:11 PM
paws2sky QUOTE (Fortune @ May 2 2008, 10:11 AM) I ... May 2 2008, 03:28 PM
Triggerz QUOTE (Fortune @ May 2 2008, 11:11 AM) I ... May 2 2008, 05:46 PM
HentaiZonga QUOTE (Triggerz @ May 2 2008, 10:46 AM) I... May 2 2008, 05:54 PM
Triggerz QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ May 2 2008, 01:54 PM... May 2 2008, 07:05 PM
Muspellsheimr QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ May 2 2008, 11:54 AM... May 2 2008, 08:41 PM
Triggerz QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ May 2 2008, 04:41 ... May 7 2008, 06:58 PM
quentra QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ May 2 2008, 03:41 ... May 7 2008, 07:00 PM
Drogos QUOTE (quentra @ May 7 2008, 02:00 PM) I... May 8 2008, 10:59 AM
NativeRigger Not to be flipant but have you considered dual wei... May 1 2008, 02:47 AM
Daier Mune QUOTE (NativeRigger @ Apr 30 2008, 09:47 ... May 2 2008, 03:58 PM
Sponge QUOTE (Daier Mune @ May 2 2008, 10:58 AM)... May 2 2008, 07:42 PM
Raven Bloodeyes If you want to see how far a two-gun dude might go... May 1 2008, 02:48 AM
Glyph For a "natural" adept without muscle ton... May 1 2008, 04:56 AM
Cthulhudreams Nothing says you cannot split the pools unequally.... May 1 2008, 04:56 AM
Janice QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Apr 30 2008, 08:56... May 1 2008, 07:00 AM
Cthulhudreams QUOTE (Janice @ May 1 2008, 02:00 AM) Thi... May 1 2008, 01:56 PM
Fortune Yeah, in my opinion, if one of those applies, then... May 1 2008, 07:20 AM
Drogos @ Fortune: The RAW kind of contradicts itself wha... May 1 2008, 11:52 AM
IC-Pick QUOTE (Drogos @ May 1 2008, 06:52 AM) @ F... May 1 2008, 07:40 PM
Shiloh If you're houseruling anyway, how about saying... May 1 2008, 02:42 PM
Fortune As far as I can tell, the only shotgun in Arsenal ... May 1 2008, 09:00 PM
ornot I had a player with a 2 gun-fu specialist, who was... May 2 2008, 11:29 AM
Drogos Yeah I noticed the RAW of it, then scratched my he... May 2 2008, 11:42 AM
ElFenrir About the dual-smartlinks; we had created a bit of... May 2 2008, 03:27 PM
DocTaotsu But will you slide into a completely dark room ful... May 2 2008, 06:03 PM
HentaiZonga QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ May 2 2008, 11:03 AM) ... May 2 2008, 06:05 PM
Glyph QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ May 2 2008, 11:03 AM) ... May 3 2008, 02:35 AM
DocTaotsu I'd argue that's what radar/ultrasound is ... May 2 2008, 06:20 PM
HentaiZonga QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ May 2 2008, 11:20 AM) ... May 2 2008, 06:23 PM
DocTaotsu What your adept doesn't own a decent set of go... May 2 2008, 06:33 PM
quentra That gives me even more fun ideas to torture my pl... May 8 2008, 05:36 PM![]() ![]() |
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