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paws2sky
post Apr 30 2008, 02:15 PM
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So, reading through some of the SRM Denver adventures, I found an NPC who's basically a gunslinger adept. That piqued my interest enough to re-read the two-weapons rules.

The NPC in question has Ambidexterity, Agility 5, and Pistols 6(9). So, a hefty 14 DP for shooting. Not hard-maxed, but pretty close. FWIW, he also has smartlink contacts and a pair of smarted sliverguns, though that bonus doesn't apply to two-weapon fighting.

Example 1:
If he's firing a single shot with one gun, he has 16 dice. Throwing in a couple modifiers for -4 DP, he still has 12 dice for his attack. That's quite respectable.

Example 2:
If he's firing a single shot from each gun, he splits his dice pool. Let's say 7 dice for each shot. Throwing in that same -4 DP, he has 3 dice for each shot? That's lousy.

Example 3:
If he's firing a single shot from each gun, but this time he's trying to shoot at two different targets. He splits his dice pool. Let's say 8 and 6 dice. Throwing in that same -4 DP, plus the -2 for a second target, he has 2 dice for each shot? That's atrocious. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

Question:
Now... since we apply modifiers after the DP is split, does that mean we can use Take Aim to boost our DP for each attack? Looking at Example 2, would this raise his dice pools to 3 and 4 (applying Take Aim to only one gun)? Or would it be 4 and 4 (applying Take Aim to both guns)?

Conclusion:
Obviously, the answer is not to try to be some Hardboiled wannabe... but doesn't that kind of defeat the point of the gunslinger adept concept? I guess I tended to picture them as some crazy Wu-like action hero, instead of a careful target shooter. Oh well.


(On a humorous note: As I was working through a sample combat last night, the gunslinger critically glitched an attack with his off-hand gun, right after scoring about 5 hits on his primary gun. I was trying to figure out what might have happened... Maybe some of the flechettes ricocheted off something and struck him? Any other suggestions?)


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- paws2sky   Wicked Two-Gun Mojo   Apr 30 2008, 02:15 PM
- - ZenGamer   Since Shadowrun is a game that tries to mimic real...   Apr 30 2008, 02:25 PM
- - MarCazm   It's hard to aim with two weapons. We have two...   Apr 30 2008, 02:26 PM
- - Nightwalker450   I'm in the process of creating the 2 gun wield...   Apr 30 2008, 02:31 PM
|- - Bearclaw   QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Apr 30 2008, 07:3...   Apr 30 2008, 03:48 PM
|- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Apr 30 2008, 07:3...   Apr 30 2008, 04:46 PM
- - paws2sky   So, from the replies so far, I guess I am calculat...   Apr 30 2008, 02:40 PM
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||- - Janice   QUOTE (ZenGamer @ Apr 30 2008, 06:49 AM) ...   May 1 2008, 01:42 AM
|- - Nightwalker450   QUOTE (paws2sky @ Apr 30 2008, 09:40 AM) ...   Apr 30 2008, 02:51 PM
|- - paws2sky   QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Apr 30 2008, 09:5...   Apr 30 2008, 03:22 PM
|- - Nightwalker450   QUOTE (paws2sky @ Apr 30 2008, 10:22 AM) ...   Apr 30 2008, 03:27 PM
|- - paws2sky   QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Apr 30 2008, 10:2...   Apr 30 2008, 03:40 PM
|- - Nightwalker450   QUOTE (paws2sky @ Apr 30 2008, 10:40 AM) ...   Apr 30 2008, 03:44 PM
- - Drogos   Well, with your specialty, the way I see it, you...   Apr 30 2008, 03:34 PM
|- - Nightwalker450   QUOTE (Drogos @ Apr 30 2008, 10:34 AM) We...   Apr 30 2008, 03:37 PM
|- - Drogos   QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Apr 30 2008, 11:3...   Apr 30 2008, 03:56 PM
|- - Shiloh   QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Apr 30 2008, 04:3...   Apr 30 2008, 03:58 PM
|- - Nightwalker450   QUOTE (Shiloh @ Apr 30 2008, 10:58 AM) No...   Apr 30 2008, 04:12 PM
- - Drogos   And as to "it's your game do whatever...   Apr 30 2008, 03:39 PM
- - Sponge   I know it's not explicitly stated in the rules...   Apr 30 2008, 03:55 PM
- - Drogos   QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Apr 30 2008, 11:3...   Apr 30 2008, 04:20 PM
|- - Nightwalker450   QUOTE (Drogos @ Apr 30 2008, 11:20 AM) Th...   Apr 30 2008, 04:24 PM
- - Drogos   Fair enough...could just pick revolvers and have t...   Apr 30 2008, 04:26 PM
- - Aaron   It's the same reason why fencing evolved into ...   Apr 30 2008, 04:40 PM
- - Ciryx   My wife and I are playing in a game right now and ...   Apr 30 2008, 05:11 PM
|- - paws2sky   QUOTE (Ciryx @ Apr 30 2008, 12:11 PM) Fir...   Apr 30 2008, 05:53 PM
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|- - Fortune   QUOTE (Ciryx @ May 1 2008, 03:11 AM) I ga...   Apr 30 2008, 10:18 PM
- - Mickle5125   Unless I'm misreading this somehow, the dual p...   Apr 30 2008, 07:07 PM
|- - paws2sky   QUOTE (Mickle5125 @ Apr 30 2008, 02:07 PM...   Apr 30 2008, 07:46 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 1 2008, 05:46 AM) H...   Apr 30 2008, 10:26 PM
|- - paws2sky   QUOTE (Fortune @ Apr 30 2008, 06:26 PM) Y...   May 1 2008, 03:16 AM
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|- - HentaiZonga   QUOTE (paws2sky @ Apr 30 2008, 08:16 PM) ...   May 1 2008, 03:45 AM
- - Dumori   Just an idea if you've got a low DP just lesse...   Apr 30 2008, 08:39 PM
- - Mäx   I think he could also take specility Semi-automati...   Apr 30 2008, 08:45 PM
|- - Triggerz   QUOTE (Mäx @ Apr 30 2008, 04:45 PM) I th...   May 2 2008, 05:36 AM
|- - paws2sky   QUOTE (Triggerz @ May 2 2008, 12:36 AM) T...   May 2 2008, 02:22 PM
|- - Shiloh   QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 2 2008, 03:22 PM) T...   May 2 2008, 02:37 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 3 2008, 12:22 AM) L...   May 2 2008, 03:11 PM
|- - paws2sky   QUOTE (Fortune @ May 2 2008, 10:11 AM) I ...   May 2 2008, 03:28 PM
|- - Triggerz   QUOTE (Fortune @ May 2 2008, 11:11 AM) I ...   May 2 2008, 05:46 PM
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|- - Drogos   QUOTE (quentra @ May 7 2008, 02:00 PM) I...   May 8 2008, 10:59 AM
- - NativeRigger   Not to be flipant but have you considered dual wei...   May 1 2008, 02:47 AM
|- - Daier Mune   QUOTE (NativeRigger @ Apr 30 2008, 09:47 ...   May 2 2008, 03:58 PM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (Daier Mune @ May 2 2008, 10:58 AM)...   May 2 2008, 07:42 PM
- - Raven Bloodeyes   If you want to see how far a two-gun dude might go...   May 1 2008, 02:48 AM
- - Glyph   For a "natural" adept without muscle ton...   May 1 2008, 04:56 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Nothing says you cannot split the pools unequally....   May 1 2008, 04:56 AM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Apr 30 2008, 08:56...   May 1 2008, 07:00 AM
|- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (Janice @ May 1 2008, 02:00 AM) Thi...   May 1 2008, 01:56 PM
- - Fortune   Yeah, in my opinion, if one of those applies, then...   May 1 2008, 07:20 AM
- - Drogos   @ Fortune: The RAW kind of contradicts itself wha...   May 1 2008, 11:52 AM
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- - Fortune   As far as I can tell, the only shotgun in Arsenal ...   May 1 2008, 09:00 PM
- - ornot   I had a player with a 2 gun-fu specialist, who was...   May 2 2008, 11:29 AM
- - Drogos   Yeah I noticed the RAW of it, then scratched my he...   May 2 2008, 11:42 AM
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