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Jason Farlander
post Dec 15 2003, 05:41 PM
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I realized the other night that I have not ever had a player use skillwires. It seemed to me, especially with things like optimization and DIMAP and chipjack expert drivers, that a skillwired character would not only be a lot of fun to play (providing a whole new meaning to the saying "I know everything"), but would also hold up rather well against other sorts of archetypal characters.

So, to verify my assumptions, I went about making one. After playing with it for a while, I realized that there was a discrepancy between my understanding of the wording in the BBB and the CC. My current understanding is that, the term "Max Rating" refers to the sum total of all simultaneously running chips. As such, following, the formula for skillwire system cost:

:nuyen: = (max rating) X (max total MP) X 500

A system that would allow you to run 2 rating 5 activesofts simultaneously would cost:

10 X 150 X 500 = 750,000 :nuyen:

Assuming every single chip you buy is also optimized (as per the CC option), that could be 375,000 :nuyen: (with the tradeoff of doubling chip cost)...
but anyway... I suppose I should ask my questions.

1) Is my understanding of the cost calculation currently correct? (check out that alliteration!)

2) How many skills is it really reasonable to expect to use simultaneously?

3) Would switching out softs be a free action (assuming, perhaps, either a 4-slot chipjack or that a number of softs are in headware memory)? "Activate cyberware" is a free action, but the description of what "activate cyberware actually" means is a bit different than this.

4) Has anyone ever played with a skillwired character and found it to be both fun and worth the cost?
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- Jason Farlander   Skillwires   Dec 15 2003, 05:41 PM
- - Nomad   I work under the assumption that anything over a r...   Dec 15 2003, 05:47 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   I absolutely adore skillwires, especially if used ...   Dec 15 2003, 05:53 PM
- - Tanka   Never, never, never take Combat skillsofts. I dou...   Dec 15 2003, 05:58 PM
- - Jason Farlander   Well, the BBB lists the availability of activesoft...   Dec 15 2003, 06:00 PM
- - nezumi   It's probably 'reasonable' to only use...   Dec 15 2003, 06:02 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Right. Skillwires are only needed for ActiveSofts...   Dec 15 2003, 06:18 PM
- - spotlite   Don't forget that the thing with skill wires i...   Dec 15 2003, 06:30 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Eh? Skillsoft Jukeboxes costs exactly as much as ...   Dec 15 2003, 06:54 PM
- - spotlite   I didn't mean jukeboxes were expensive, I mean...   Dec 15 2003, 07:12 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Uhm, no... the point is that you can freely switch...   Dec 15 2003, 07:15 PM
- - Sphynx   QUOTE (Jason Farlander) I realized the other night...   Dec 15 2003, 07:55 PM
- - Spookymonster   Standard loadout for my mage (skillwires-3 + CED-3...   Dec 15 2003, 08:23 PM
- - Siege   Hah! Spooky, you're the second person I k...   Dec 16 2003, 01:58 AM
- - Spookymonster   My mage, Skee, is primarily an illusionist, so hav...   Dec 16 2003, 02:52 PM
- - bwdemon   One of my most powerful characters ever owed much ...   Dec 16 2003, 04:13 PM
- - Jason Farlander   CED's can not be used with softs stored in hea...   Dec 16 2003, 05:28 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   You can always route the Chipjack to Headware Memo...   Dec 16 2003, 05:32 PM
- - Jason Farlander   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) You can always route th...   Dec 16 2003, 05:57 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Oh good grief. Yes it does, because the "ski...   Dec 16 2003, 05:59 PM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Oh good grief. Yes it ...   Dec 16 2003, 06:12 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Which, again, is why the Headware Memory is being ...   Dec 16 2003, 06:15 PM
- - Matrix Monkey   On a related note... How would you handle MA (mart...   Dec 16 2003, 06:22 PM
- - Jason Farlander   OK.. in your game, sure. Not in mine, ever. Yeah...   Dec 16 2003, 06:22 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Please show me where I ever said the CED wasn...   Dec 16 2003, 06:27 PM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein @ Dec 16 2003, 02:1...   Dec 16 2003, 07:40 PM
- - Tanka   I see it this way: You can port a chip to memory, ...   Dec 16 2003, 07:43 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Then I guess you can't use Headware Memory at ...   Dec 16 2003, 07:55 PM
- - Spookymonster   Sarcasm... just another service provided by the go...   Dec 16 2003, 08:02 PM
- - Sphynx   Yes, you CAN Route Headware mem to a CED. That...   Dec 16 2003, 08:05 PM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Sphynx) Do you honestly think there's a...   Dec 16 2003, 08:37 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   And like previously mentioned, the entry for Skill...   Dec 16 2003, 08:38 PM
- - Zazen   What keeps you from routing your headware memory t...   Dec 16 2003, 10:50 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   The same thing that stops you from routing multipl...   Dec 16 2003, 11:03 PM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) The same thing that sto...   Dec 16 2003, 11:37 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Err, no you can't. You can do that no more th...   Dec 16 2003, 11:56 PM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Then I guess you can...   Dec 16 2003, 11:59 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (Spookymonster) QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein ...   Dec 17 2003, 12:06 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Besides, a simple Electronics B/R (I believe) test...   Dec 17 2003, 12:16 AM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) You guys really need to...   Dec 17 2003, 12:20 AM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Besides, a simple Elect...   Dec 17 2003, 12:31 AM
- - BitBasher   Actually I believe its physically impossible to co...   Dec 17 2003, 02:02 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   QUOTE (Spookymonster) QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein ...   Dec 17 2003, 06:11 AM
- - Fortune   I'm awaiting a response from Rob on this subje...   Dec 17 2003, 06:36 AM
- - Jason Farlander   QUOTE (Fortune) I'm awaiting a response from R...   Dec 17 2003, 06:47 AM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) In fact, none of the im...   Dec 17 2003, 09:30 AM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Whether that Skillsoft ...   Dec 17 2003, 02:05 PM
- - Spookymonster   ooops... edit   Dec 17 2003, 02:17 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   No, I'm reading the actual description of the ...   Dec 17 2003, 04:08 PM
- - Jason Farlander   A story: Imagine that we are playing in a lower-t...   Dec 17 2003, 04:27 PM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Even if you did route H...   Dec 17 2003, 04:28 PM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Jason Farlander) Now, as we exit the story,...   Dec 17 2003, 04:40 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   QUOTE (Zazen @ Dec 17 2003, 10:28 AM) Ok, I...   Dec 17 2003, 04:47 PM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) There are no magic kung...   Dec 17 2003, 04:56 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   I've cited my references. The Router. Yours ...   Dec 17 2003, 04:56 PM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Actually, it's up t...   Dec 17 2003, 05:08 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   They can send data to each other. Whoopie. That ...   Dec 17 2003, 05:18 PM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) ...the "skill enco...   Dec 17 2003, 05:27 PM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Actually, it's up t...   Dec 17 2003, 05:33 PM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) You're also the one...   Dec 17 2003, 05:43 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Zazen: You're not making any sense. Spooky: ...   Dec 17 2003, 05:45 PM
- - Spookymonster   Let me finish the sentence for you (one last time,...   Dec 17 2003, 05:59 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   <sighs> Whatever. What part of "Chipj...   Dec 17 2003, 06:03 PM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Zazen: You're not m...   Dec 17 2003, 06:32 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   In the description for Routers. M&M p. 46, ...   Dec 17 2003, 06:37 PM
- - spotlite   Wow, I never saw so many people arguing the same d...   Dec 17 2003, 06:38 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Yes, I know. He's a pathetic little troll, bu...   Dec 17 2003, 06:40 PM
- - spotlite   I didn't mean it like that!   Dec 17 2003, 06:41 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   I did.   Dec 17 2003, 06:42 PM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) I suppose you could rou...   Dec 17 2003, 07:03 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   No, I'm only wrong in the use of the word ...   Dec 17 2003, 07:07 PM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) What part of "Chip...   Dec 17 2003, 07:12 PM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) No, I'm only wrong ...   Dec 17 2003, 07:15 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   No, I was just pointing out that YOU were only rea...   Dec 17 2003, 07:17 PM
- - Spookymonster   With any luck, this thread'll be shutdown soon...   Dec 17 2003, 07:18 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   QUOTE (Zazen) QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein @ Dec...   Dec 17 2003, 07:19 PM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) So in other words you...   Dec 17 2003, 07:29 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Oh please. Earlier in the thread I said that you ...   Dec 17 2003, 07:47 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Oh, and as a side note, I still haven't seen a...   Dec 17 2003, 08:02 PM
- - sidekick   mind you is all IMHO but If the power of the CED w...   Dec 17 2003, 08:10 PM
- - nezumi   (Jumping into the shark pool) Seems to me like th...   Dec 17 2003, 08:32 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   That's actually a really good (and more import...   Dec 17 2003, 08:43 PM
- - Zazen   Df, I'm just going to stop posting for awhile...   Dec 17 2003, 08:52 PM
- - Neuron Basher   Time out.   Dec 17 2003, 09:17 PM


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