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Veggiesama
post Feb 15 2009, 10:40 PM
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It's been a while since I played SR4 (before any books came out), and I've had a recent hankering to get back in the game.

1. How are the new books (Street Magic, Arsenal, etc.)? Worth picking up?
2. I had an absurd amount of house rules in my game, especially related to character creation, overwhelming hacking rules, combat oddities, etc. (just looking at my house rules page makes me cringe!) New books/errata do anything to address those "big issues," or have the problems been exacerbated?
3. Anyone play online? What VTs (virtual tabletops) do Shadowrun players use most?
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- Veggiesama   So, how is SR4 now?   Feb 15 2009, 10:40 PM
- - Degausser   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Feb 15 2009, 06:40 PM...   Feb 16 2009, 12:00 AM
|- - Eugene   QUOTE (Degausser @ Feb 15 2009, 07:00 PM)...   Feb 16 2009, 04:23 PM
||- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Eugene @ Feb 16 2009, 11:23 AM) Na...   Feb 16 2009, 06:55 PM
|- - Veggiesama   QUOTE (Degausser @ Feb 15 2009, 07:00 PM)...   Feb 16 2009, 08:25 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Feb 16 2009, 02:25 PM...   Feb 16 2009, 10:35 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Feb 16 2009, 03:25 PM...   Feb 16 2009, 10:36 PM
|- - Gawdzilla   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Feb 16 2009, 12:25 PM...   Feb 18 2009, 08:58 AM
- - psychophipps   While the books do add more information and some n...   Feb 16 2009, 01:09 AM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Feb 15 2009, 05:09 ...   Feb 16 2009, 04:18 PM
|- - FlakJacket   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Feb 16 2009, 01:09 ...   Feb 20 2009, 01:36 AM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (FlakJacket @ Feb 19 2009, 05:36 PM...   Feb 20 2009, 06:16 PM
- - BookWyrm   I would have to say that SR4, at first, left me sk...   Feb 16 2009, 01:17 AM
- - Glyph   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Feb 15 2009, 04:40 PM...   Feb 16 2009, 01:55 AM
- - Thadeus Bearpaw   I really dig 4th ed. I hadn't played anything...   Feb 16 2009, 02:24 AM
- - Warlordtheft   I would strongly suggest the Runners companion for...   Feb 16 2009, 03:25 AM
- - GreyBrother   1. Pretty Good. Whats worth picking up depends. R...   Feb 16 2009, 02:28 PM
- - raggedhalo   I wouldn't want to run SR4 without Street Magi...   Feb 16 2009, 04:32 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (raggedhalo @ Feb 16 2009, 11:32 AM...   Feb 16 2009, 06:47 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 16 2009, 10:47 AM) ...   Feb 16 2009, 07:02 PM
- - Draco18s   Your group has figured it out. Ours hasn't. ...   Feb 16 2009, 07:13 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 16 2009, 11:13 AM) ...   Feb 16 2009, 07:23 PM
- - Prime Mover   4E Shadowrun I'm a convert, picked it up due t...   Feb 16 2009, 11:00 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Prime Mover @ Feb 16 2009, 06:00 P...   Feb 16 2009, 11:05 PM
|- - Prime Mover   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 16 2009, 06:05 PM) ...   Feb 17 2009, 01:15 AM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 16 2009, 06:05 PM) ...   Feb 19 2009, 03:34 AM
- - Degausser   Hey, I don't have all the books, but I have on...   Feb 17 2009, 12:15 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Degausser @ Feb 16 2009, 07:15 PM)...   Feb 17 2009, 12:19 AM
- - Cain   the power creep hasn't been too bad in any boo...   Feb 17 2009, 01:37 AM
- - Glyph   Personally, I would consider Emergence a fluff boo...   Feb 17 2009, 02:12 AM
- - Speed Wraith   I guess I'm on the opposite side of that parti...   Feb 17 2009, 05:17 PM
- - Medicineman   The example Chars from the BBB wolud be 500 -550 ...   Feb 18 2009, 09:09 AM
- - De Badd Ass   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Feb 15 2009, 05:40 PM...   Feb 18 2009, 04:08 PM
|- - Veggiesama   QUOTE (De Badd Ass @ Feb 18 2009, 11:08 A...   Feb 18 2009, 07:47 PM
- - Wesley Street   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Feb 15 2009, 05:40 PM...   Feb 18 2009, 05:51 PM
- - counterveil   I'm with bluemax on this one, and not just cos...   Feb 18 2009, 10:03 PM
- - Cain   I'm not getting the SR4 Matrix luvvin here. M...   Feb 19 2009, 03:19 AM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 18 2009, 07:19 PM) I...   Feb 19 2009, 03:28 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Feb 18 2009, 10:28 PM) H...   Feb 19 2009, 03:36 AM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 18 2009, 07:36 PM) ...   Feb 19 2009, 03:42 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE Most of the time I run hacking, it happens i...   Feb 19 2009, 05:26 AM
|- - counterveil   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 19 2009, 06:26 AM) No o...   Feb 19 2009, 06:10 AM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (counterveil @ Feb 18 2009, 10:10 P...   Feb 19 2009, 07:28 AM
||- - De Badd Ass   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 19 2009, 02:28 AM) Agai...   Feb 19 2009, 09:23 AM
||- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 18 2009, 11:28 PM) All ...   Feb 19 2009, 02:27 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 18 2009, 09:26 PM) No o...   Feb 19 2009, 06:31 AM
- - Sir_Psycho   If you're smart about your security design and...   Feb 19 2009, 01:51 PM
- - ravensmuse   Things are being blown out of proportion here. Mos...   Feb 19 2009, 04:27 PM
- - counterveil   Once again echoing what many have already said (be...   Feb 19 2009, 05:13 PM
- - Cain   I think you're missing the point. It's no...   Feb 19 2009, 06:15 PM
|- - counterveil   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 19 2009, 07:15 PM) Let...   Feb 19 2009, 06:34 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 19 2009, 10:15 AM) I th...   Feb 19 2009, 06:45 PM
|- - ravensmuse   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 19 2009, 01:15 PM) I th...   Feb 19 2009, 07:36 PM
|- - tete   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 19 2009, 07:15 PM) Let...   Feb 19 2009, 10:13 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (tete @ Feb 19 2009, 05:13 PM) 2003...   Feb 20 2009, 05:42 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Yes, "longer than the current age of the univ...   Feb 20 2009, 01:06 AM
- - Cain   I can deal with Hollywood hacking. The problem is...   Feb 20 2009, 02:31 AM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 19 2009, 06:31 PM) And ...   Feb 20 2009, 04:38 AM
|- - Veggiesama   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Feb 19 2009, 11:38 PM) I...   Feb 20 2009, 05:38 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE There's very little that doesn't fit...   Feb 20 2009, 05:54 AM
|- - counterveil   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 20 2009, 05:54 AM) Yeah...   Feb 20 2009, 06:36 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (counterveil @ Feb 20 2009, 01:36 A...   Feb 20 2009, 06:56 AM
|- - counterveil   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 20 2009, 06:56 AM) ...   Feb 20 2009, 07:17 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (counterveil @ Feb 20 2009, 02:17 A...   Feb 20 2009, 07:48 AM
|- - raggedhalo   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 20 2009, 02:48 AM) ...   Feb 20 2009, 10:52 AM
- - counterveil   To quote Veggiesama: p221 says that Hacking on th...   Feb 20 2009, 07:52 AM
- - ravensmuse   We've pointed out that companies would rather ...   Feb 20 2009, 12:28 PM
|- - counterveil   QUOTE (ravensmuse @ Feb 20 2009, 12:28 PM...   Feb 20 2009, 05:41 PM
- - Wesley Street   Just as an add-on comment, hacking the opposition...   Feb 20 2009, 03:49 PM
- - Cain   Not with the ease of the scriptkiddie approach. G...   Feb 20 2009, 06:31 PM
|- - ravensmuse   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 20 2009, 01:31 PM) Not ...   Feb 20 2009, 07:39 PM
- - deek   Isn't time really the "security" for...   Feb 20 2009, 06:43 PM
- - Wesley Street   QUOTE Yes, *decking*. When I use the term, people...   Feb 20 2009, 06:43 PM
- - Cain   But if security is set so that any scriptkiddie ca...   Feb 20 2009, 11:14 PM
|- - counterveil   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 20 2009, 11:14 PM) As f...   Feb 20 2009, 11:27 PM
|- - MYST1C   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 21 2009, 12:14 AM) Fina...   Feb 22 2009, 11:03 AM
|- - Sir_Psycho   QUOTE (MYST1C @ Feb 22 2009, 07:03 AM) Ac...   Feb 22 2009, 12:31 PM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Sir_Psycho @ Feb 22 2009, 04:31 AM...   Feb 22 2009, 02:09 PM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Feb 22 2009, 09:09 ...   Feb 22 2009, 04:00 PM
- - InfinityzeN   Not always when talking about high level governmen...   Feb 20 2009, 11:46 PM
- - counterveil   Not high-level, no. But your average military bas...   Feb 21 2009, 12:14 AM
- - Cain   That's rather the point. Any one of us could ...   Feb 21 2009, 01:03 AM
- - counterveil   Somehow I feel we've drifted off the original ...   Feb 21 2009, 05:13 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE You don't always put your gunslingers up...   Feb 21 2009, 07:17 AM
|- - counterveil   Hey Veggie, sorry we took this quite off-topic, bu...   Feb 22 2009, 06:48 PM
- - Veggiesama   *blink* This thread has drifted so far off-topic t...   Feb 22 2009, 01:30 AM
|- - InfinityzeN   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Feb 21 2009, 08:30 PM...   Feb 22 2009, 01:57 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE My main question: do the new rulebooks clear...   Feb 22 2009, 01:58 AM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 22 2009, 02:58 AM) It j...   Feb 22 2009, 04:37 PM
- - InfinityzeN   Ummm, I built an Adept Decker in the 800 point thr...   Feb 22 2009, 02:21 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Maybe because he's being a drekhead rather tha...   Feb 22 2009, 12:08 PM
- - Wesley Street   If SR4 can't work, I don't know how SR3.wh...   Feb 22 2009, 06:21 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE In all the groups I've played SR with in...   Feb 22 2009, 11:28 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 22 2009, 06:28 PM) But ...   Feb 22 2009, 11:36 PM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 23 2009, 12:28 AM) But ...   Feb 23 2009, 11:20 AM
|- - MYST1C   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 23 2009, 12:28 AM) What...   Feb 23 2009, 02:08 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE I would warn those who try out the matrix ru...   Feb 23 2009, 08:50 PM
- - GreyBrother   I prefer Fierfeck, Yes Yes.   Feb 23 2009, 04:38 PM
- - BlueMax   What about Defensive Hackers in the node? Has tha...   Feb 23 2009, 08:52 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Feb 23 2009, 12:52 PM) W...   Feb 23 2009, 09:15 PM
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