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Veggiesama
post Apr 14 2009, 11:42 PM
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Various questions that came to my mind as I read the Combat chapter and newly rewritten Wireless World chapter (which is mucho awesome, thank you). I have a lot of questions so I'll bold the ones I really want answered.

1. I usually hear that combat is over in one or two combat rounds, thanks to all the IP boosts most people get. But don't hackers/technomancers get a little screwed, even though they're supposed to be so fast?

p145, Switching Initiative.
QUOTE
If the number of Initiative Passes available to a character increases,
that character does not gain the extra Initiative Passes for that turn.
So a magician with 1 IP who takes his frst action to astrally project
(+2 IP) does not gain any extra actions that turn, but he will have 3 IP
for the next turn.


So am I correct in assuming that in the first round of combat I have to find a place to hide and go into VR mode, and that's all I get to do? Meanwhile the street sams get 2-4 rounds of actions. And even when round two comes, I have to still trace the connection, or exploit the node, or whatever, before I even get to do anything useful? Aren't the enemies probably dead by then?

2. Just how intelligent are sprites, anyway? They have "dog-brain" Pilot ratings, but can you hold a conversation with them or expect them to behave intelligently while autonomous?

3. Issuing orders. If I'm issuing orders to a drone/sprite/drone-controlled-by-sprite, do I just do them once ("shoot at those guys!"), or do I have to repeat them each time I want the minion to take an action ("Fire a short burst")? Who actually controls the minion's actions: me or the GM? Who determines when my sprite uses a point of Edge?

4. How does a sprite (most likely a machine sprite) actually control a drone? Does it "issue commands", "remote control", "jump in", or something different? Do you use the sprite's Pilot rating or the drone's? What rolls are used to make the sprite-controlled drone, say, shoot a gun? If the drone has an autosoft (like Defense 3) that the sprite lacks, can the sprite make use of it?


5. If a sprite is controlling a drone I own and have subscribed to, is the sprite still in contact with the me? Does this count as a "remote task" and thus I lose all other tasks?

6. While we're on tasks, what exactly is a task? Can I string together orders, like "Command this drone, follow me, and protect me until the end of the mission?" or would each one of those be a separate task? What happens to the drone when the sprite runs out of tasks?

7. What if I roll no net hits on the compiling test? Does the sprite just disappear, since it owes me no tasks? Can I do a "pretty please" routine (Negotiation roll?) on a sprite to make it do things it doesn't have tasks for?

8. I don't see many drawbacks to re-registering a sprite. Are there any limitations, or can I just accumulate 100+ tasks during downtime?

9. The Diagnostics power. Wow. Limitations? Can I use this on a medkit? A vehicle? A gun? My commlink?

10. I'm having a hard time building a Technomancer with BPs. I took the Spoof complex form, but then I realized I would never actually be able to Spoof unless I first had Trace or Scan to acquire the enemy's access ID. I already spent 35 BP on complex forms, but he still feels extremely inadequate because he lacks important complex forms.

11. What type of action is Threading a complex form? Can I drop a sustained thread before I use another complex form, like how a mage can choose to drop a previously sustained spell before he casts a new spell?

12. Do I receive the hot sim bonus (+2 to all Matrix actions) on threading or fading?

13. Can I take Software (Threading +2) as a specialization?
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- Veggiesama   Technomancer questions (SR4A)   Apr 14 2009, 11:42 PM
- - Tiger Eyes   1. Hack in AR. You use your meat-world initative. ...   Apr 15 2009, 12:27 AM
|- - Veggiesama   Thanks for all of your answers, but I have a few c...   Apr 15 2009, 01:58 AM
|- - Tiger Eyes   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Apr 14 2009, 09:58 PM...   Apr 15 2009, 02:20 AM
- - BlueMax   I am wondering why 4 was answered the way it was. ...   Apr 15 2009, 12:43 AM
|- - Tiger Eyes   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Apr 14 2009, 08:43 PM) I...   Apr 15 2009, 12:52 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Wow... What Tiger Eyes Said, I guess... Great Answ...   Apr 15 2009, 12:47 AM
- - Backgammon   QUOTE Yes it would. My technomancer has 6 init, 1 ...   Apr 15 2009, 02:05 AM
|- - Veggiesama   QUOTE (Backgammon @ Apr 14 2009, 10:05 PM...   Apr 15 2009, 02:15 AM
|- - Tiger Eyes   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Apr 14 2009, 10:15 PM...   Apr 15 2009, 02:27 AM
|- - Caadium   A couple of comments: 1. If you have access to U...   Apr 15 2009, 03:23 AM
|- - cryptoknight   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Apr 14 2009, 08:15 PM...   Apr 15 2009, 04:48 PM
||- - Caadium   QUOTE (cryptoknight @ Apr 15 2009, 08:48 ...   Apr 15 2009, 04:57 PM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Apr 15 2009, 04:15 AM...   Apr 15 2009, 05:37 PM
- - Jaid   4) you can't mix and match. a sprite should be...   Apr 15 2009, 03:20 AM
- - Aaron   For #4, I'd think a sprite would control a dro...   Apr 15 2009, 03:45 AM
|- - Caadium   QUOTE (Aaron @ Apr 14 2009, 08:45 PM) For...   Apr 15 2009, 04:13 AM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (Aaron @ Apr 14 2009, 09:45 PM) For...   Apr 15 2009, 03:48 PM
- - Tycho   I don't think Threading is a valid specialisat...   Apr 15 2009, 04:31 AM
- - Ryu   QUOTE 4. How does a sprite (most likely a machine ...   Apr 15 2009, 06:05 AM
- - Aaron   I dunno about the jumping in thing. People can...   Apr 15 2009, 11:51 AM
- - Ryu   My reasoning was that sprites should have an easie...   Apr 15 2009, 04:32 PM
- - Warlordtheft   The way I've been running it has been treating...   Apr 15 2009, 04:53 PM
|- - Dashifen   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Apr 15 2009, 10:53 ...   Apr 15 2009, 06:23 PM
- - tricwebs   A quick question about Echoes and The Living Perso...   Apr 15 2009, 06:21 PM
|- - Veggiesama   QUOTE (tricwebs @ Apr 15 2009, 02:21 PM) ...   Apr 15 2009, 08:42 PM
- - Veggiesama   Here's a proposed house rule / clarification i...   Apr 15 2009, 08:30 PM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (Tycho @ Apr 14 2009, 11:31 PM) I d...   Apr 15 2009, 09:31 PM
|- - Tiger Eyes   QUOTE (Jaid @ Apr 15 2009, 05:31 PM) now ...   Apr 15 2009, 10:38 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Jaid @ Apr 15 2009, 03:31 PM) i he...   Apr 15 2009, 11:38 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 15 2009, 07...   Apr 16 2009, 07:50 AM
- - Tycho   The thing is, why should a technomancer write a no...   Apr 15 2009, 11:33 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Tycho @ Apr 15 2009, 03:33 PM) The...   Apr 15 2009, 11:36 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Apr 15 2009, 05:36 PM) W...   Apr 15 2009, 11:44 PM
||- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 15 2009, 04...   Apr 16 2009, 12:01 AM
||- - Ard3   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 16 2009, 02...   Apr 16 2009, 01:52 PM
||- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Ard3 @ Apr 16 2009, 06:52 AM) Just...   Apr 16 2009, 03:32 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Tycho @ Apr 15 2009, 05:33 PM) The...   Apr 15 2009, 11:40 PM
- - Tycho   I looked in the book and could not find any text, ...   Apr 15 2009, 11:57 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Tycho @ Apr 15 2009, 05:57 PM) I l...   Apr 16 2009, 12:22 AM
- - Bobfly   Lookit all dat TM discussion. I have a few questi...   Apr 16 2009, 12:20 AM
|- - Tiger Eyes   QUOTE (Bobfly @ Apr 15 2009, 08:20 PM) Lo...   Apr 16 2009, 03:04 AM
|- - Caadium   QUOTE (Tiger Eyes @ Apr 15 2009, 08:04 PM...   Apr 16 2009, 03:44 AM
|- - Bobfly   Thanks for answering my questions, Tiger Eyes. The...   Apr 16 2009, 10:35 AM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (Bobfly @ Apr 16 2009, 12:35 PM) I...   Apr 16 2009, 11:25 AM
|- - Tiger Eyes   QUOTE (Bobfly @ Apr 16 2009, 06:35 AM) Th...   Apr 16 2009, 02:35 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Cardul @ Apr 19 2009, 04:54 AM) Co...   Apr 19 2009, 03:54 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 19 2009, 09:54 AM) ...   Apr 19 2009, 04:11 PM
- - Biokinetica   Do you roll your active skill plus resonance and c...   Apr 16 2009, 03:18 PM
- - Heath Robinson   Tiger Eyes, RAW for raising attributes is still j...   Apr 16 2009, 03:40 PM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Apr 16 2009, 09:4...   Apr 16 2009, 03:46 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Apr 16 2009, 08:4...   Apr 16 2009, 03:48 PM
- - Ryu   TM´s can still afford to get implants. Trauma Dam...   Apr 16 2009, 06:02 PM
- - Bobfly   ^^^ Was gonna post this. Too bad sourcerors have a...   Apr 16 2009, 06:30 PM
- - Veggiesama   For the sake of flavor, I really don't like ge...   Apr 16 2009, 07:10 PM
- - Ryu   Sourcerors have Code sprites and Machine Sprites. ...   Apr 16 2009, 07:21 PM
- - Bobfly   So... I was reading up on Echoes and scuffing at F...   Apr 18 2009, 08:33 PM
|- - Biokinetica   QUOTE (Bobfly @ Apr 18 2009, 03:33 PM) So...   Apr 18 2009, 09:09 PM
|- - Bobfly   QUOTE (Biokinetica @ Apr 18 2009, 11:09 P...   Apr 18 2009, 09:18 PM
|- - Tiger Eyes   QUOTE (Bobfly @ Apr 18 2009, 04:18 PM) Ri...   Apr 19 2009, 03:06 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Tiger Eyes @ Apr 19 2009, 09:06 AM...   Apr 19 2009, 03:11 PM
- - Draco18s   Resonance, ware, and karma: IT WORKS LIKE MAGIC P...   Apr 18 2009, 08:59 PM
- - Ryu   @Draco18s: Yes? Has that rule changed with SR4A?   Apr 18 2009, 09:10 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Ryu @ Apr 18 2009, 05:10 PM) @Drac...   Apr 18 2009, 09:17 PM
|- - Cardul   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 18 2009, 04:17 PM) ...   Apr 19 2009, 08:54 AM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 18 2009, 11:17 PM) ...   Apr 19 2009, 09:23 AM
- - Biokinetica   Uses of resonance would typically be denoted by an...   Apr 18 2009, 09:28 PM
- - Bobfly   That... Makes a lot of sense, yeah. Doomsday scena...   Apr 18 2009, 09:36 PM
- - Draco18s   Head + Desk *Smash* And people wondered why this f...   Apr 19 2009, 04:40 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 19 2009, 10:40 AM) ...   Apr 19 2009, 04:41 PM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 19 2009, 06:40 PM) ...   Apr 19 2009, 05:25 PM
- - Tiger Eyes   I'll admit that I'm not the best person to...   Apr 19 2009, 05:03 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Tiger Eyes @ Apr 19 2009, 11:03 AM...   Apr 19 2009, 06:57 PM
- - Draco18s   Tyger Eyes, then the amount of Karma that a (near)...   Apr 19 2009, 05:12 PM
|- - Five Eyes   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 19 2009, 01:12 PM) ...   Apr 19 2009, 06:06 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Five Eyes @ Apr 19 2009, 02:06 PM)...   Apr 19 2009, 06:16 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 19 2009, 11:12 AM) ...   Apr 19 2009, 07:00 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 19 2009, 01...   Apr 19 2009, 07:04 PM
- - Aaron   For what it's worth, after reading SR4A again,...   Apr 19 2009, 05:39 PM
- - Draco18s   Oh sure, the GM can do things like that. But by R...   Apr 19 2009, 07:25 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 19 2009, 01:25 PM) ...   Apr 19 2009, 07:29 PM
- - Veggiesama   To get back to the original topic a little, look a...   Apr 20 2009, 07:43 AM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Apr 20 2009, 09:43 AM...   Apr 20 2009, 09:01 AM
|- - Unnamed Technomancer   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Apr 20 2009, 12:43 AM...   Jun 3 2009, 01:54 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Never tried that option... how does it work for yo...   Apr 21 2009, 01:08 AM
- - tarbrush   Arise my minion! Apologies for the threadoman...   May 29 2009, 12:46 PM
- - Ryu   QUOTE (tarbrush @ May 29 2009, 02:46 PM) ...   May 29 2009, 01:21 PM
|- - tarbrush   QUOTE (Ryu @ May 29 2009, 09:21 AM) Threa...   May 29 2009, 01:33 PM
- - Ryu   Complex forms are not programs, even if they are b...   May 29 2009, 01:42 PM
- - tarbrush   Okaaay. So then why do I care about my logic scor...   May 29 2009, 02:05 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (tarbrush @ May 29 2009, 09:05 AM) ...   May 29 2009, 03:24 PM
- - Jaid   damage resist tests use system. depending on your ...   May 29 2009, 06:30 PM
- - Abschalten   Logic is important because it's your System at...   May 29 2009, 08:23 PM
- - tarbrush   Ok, that makes a bit more sense. I've been tr...   May 30 2009, 11:21 AM
- - Ryu   Yeah, remind me to make complete arguments. Reson...   May 30 2009, 01:36 PM
|- - tarbrush   Hmmm. Man, this is complicated. Thanks again. I...   May 30 2009, 01:44 PM
|- - Aaron   QUOTE (tarbrush @ May 30 2009, 08:44 AM) ...   May 30 2009, 02:39 PM
- - tarbrush   Hey, guess what, I have more questions Firstly, ...   Jun 3 2009, 12:40 PM
- - Ryu   I´ll leave the first questions to someone who alr...   Jun 3 2009, 01:02 PM
- - Ryu   Initiative score: Pre-SR4A (German pg. 134), you a...   Jun 3 2009, 02:41 PM
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