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Veggiesama
post Apr 23 2009, 09:04 PM
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I'd like to know what people think are necessary optional rules (from the splat books) and house rules for playing a well-balanced game. I'd also like to know rules you use to clear up inconsistencies/confusions in the books or to resolve situations that come up a lot that the rules don't specifically cover.

Just to throw my hat in the ring, I think Karma creation OR build-point advancement is the way to go. Needs to be seamless between creation/advancement (all BP or all Karma) or people end up creating gimped/overpowered characters right off the bat with little room for improvement.

I don't really want to debate the relative merits of each rule. I just want to know which ones you think are indispensable, and why you feel that way.
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- Veggiesama   Absolutely necessary optional/house rules   Apr 23 2009, 09:04 PM
- - Draco18s   My group has the CHA * 2 free BP of contacts alway...   Apr 23 2009, 09:12 PM
- - BlueMax   [Empty Set] Not a fanboy. I just move my game awa...   Apr 23 2009, 09:22 PM
- - Poison Shadow   I never liked that logic is mostly useless for hac...   Apr 23 2009, 09:25 PM
- - Dashifen   The biggest problem I've run into is vehicle s...   Apr 23 2009, 09:33 PM
|- - Adarael   QUOTE (Dashifen @ Apr 23 2009, 02:33 PM) ...   Apr 23 2009, 11:29 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Adarael @ Apr 23 2009, 05:29 PM) T...   Apr 23 2009, 11:59 PM
- - Caadium   A bit of nostalgia has me using a free bp just for...   Apr 23 2009, 10:26 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Caadium @ Apr 23 2009, 05:26 PM) I...   Apr 23 2009, 11:27 PM
|- - Caadium   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 23 2009, 03:27 PM) ...   Apr 24 2009, 12:09 AM
- - overcannon   We do some interesting things with guns. SS guns ...   Apr 24 2009, 02:29 AM
|- - Caadium   QUOTE (overcannon @ Apr 23 2009, 06:29 PM...   Apr 24 2009, 03:15 AM
- - Draco18s   Burst fire is faster than 1 bullet a second (comba...   Apr 24 2009, 02:40 AM
|- - Zombayz   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 23 2009, 06:40 PM) ...   Apr 24 2009, 02:55 AM
||- - overcannon   QUOTE (Zombayz @ Apr 23 2009, 08:55 PM) N...   Apr 24 2009, 10:37 AM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (overcannon @ Apr 24 2009, 05:37 AM...   Apr 24 2009, 01:44 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 23 2009, 08:40 PM) ...   Apr 24 2009, 02:58 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (kzt @ Apr 23 2009, 07:58 PM) An av...   Apr 24 2009, 03:06 AM
- - kzt   We used Frank's character creation rules, we m...   Apr 24 2009, 02:54 AM
- - Tiger Eyes   My GM doesn't let us buy successes (but we als...   Apr 24 2009, 03:46 AM
|- - The Mack   QUOTE (Tiger Eyes @ Apr 24 2009, 12:46 PM...   Apr 24 2009, 05:17 AM
|- - Tiger Eyes   QUOTE (The Mack @ Apr 24 2009, 01:17 AM) ...   Apr 24 2009, 01:50 PM
|- - The Mack   QUOTE (Tiger Eyes @ Apr 24 2009, 10:50 PM...   Apr 24 2009, 03:01 PM
- - Malachi   A magician must stay conscious from the Drain test...   Apr 24 2009, 05:06 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Malachi @ Apr 24 2009, 12:06 AM) A...   Apr 24 2009, 07:52 AM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 24 2009, 09:52 AM) ...   Apr 24 2009, 08:53 AM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 24 2009, 12:52 AM) ...   Apr 24 2009, 09:02 AM
|- - Veggiesama   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 24 2009, 04:02...   Apr 24 2009, 11:15 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   One houserule I find essential is, "There is ...   Apr 24 2009, 06:46 AM
- - HentaiZonga   I always use the Cha x 2 BP (or Cha x 3 XP) free C...   Apr 24 2009, 07:48 AM
- - Medicineman   we use the Optional Matrix Rule LOG & Skill (...   Apr 24 2009, 08:13 AM
- - Draco18s   Ah...I think our table has done away with that rul...   Apr 24 2009, 08:56 AM
- - Blade   I have a lot of houserules, but I often forget to ...   Apr 24 2009, 09:18 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   Rule 1: If a mechanical effect relies on a GM jud...   Apr 24 2009, 09:37 AM
|- - PirateChef   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 24 2009, 04:37...   Apr 25 2009, 02:55 PM
- - Psikerlord   Our securetech PPP armour uses the standard armour...   Apr 24 2009, 11:05 AM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Psikerlord @ Apr 24 2009, 01:05 PM...   Apr 24 2009, 11:37 AM
- - Kerrang   Since I have one player in the group who almost ex...   Apr 24 2009, 05:05 PM
- - wylie   in the game I run, we don't roll intiative i j...   Apr 25 2009, 03:17 AM
- - kzt   That was also suggested by Frank Trollman. Seemed...   Apr 25 2009, 03:56 AM
- - Chrysalis   House rules: The GM's final decision is bind...   Apr 25 2009, 05:07 AM
- - Cain   I ask my players to cap their dice pools. For exa...   Apr 25 2009, 05:20 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   Shadowrun 4 - House Errata The above does not inc...   Apr 25 2009, 06:22 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Apr 23 2009, 10:04 PM...   Apr 25 2009, 07:55 AM
- - Psikerlord   @ Dakka Dakka - you're exactly right ... it t...   Apr 25 2009, 12:07 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Psikerlord @ Apr 25 2009, 02:07 PM...   Apr 25 2009, 12:27 PM
- - Larme   Catalyst already took care of my #1 house rule by ...   Apr 25 2009, 04:01 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Larme @ Apr 25 2009, 11:01 AM) I m...   Apr 26 2009, 04:23 AM
- - Psikerlord   @Dakka dakka. You're right of course. I just t...   Apr 26 2009, 05:13 AM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (Psikerlord @ Apr 26 2009, 12:13 AM...   Apr 26 2009, 06:13 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Apr 26 2009, 12:13 A...   Apr 26 2009, 03:49 PM
- - ornot   @muspellheimer: i really don't see where you g...   Apr 26 2009, 08:06 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   Rules as Written, if you possess both Cyber & ...   Apr 26 2009, 08:32 AM
|- - Larme   Ok, I think you're making a mistake with your ...   Apr 26 2009, 08:17 PM
- - ornot   I don't think there is a hole in that circumst...   Apr 26 2009, 09:12 AM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (ornot @ Apr 26 2009, 02:12 AM) I d...   Apr 26 2009, 07:22 PM
- - Noirfatale   in our game we got a couple house rules: ground v...   Apr 26 2009, 12:45 PM
- - PirateChef   I really like the detective skill group idea, I mi...   Apr 26 2009, 01:34 PM
- - psychophipps   Bonuses are dice, penalties are Threshold increase...   Apr 26 2009, 01:47 PM
- - Heath Robinson   Whilst I'm in no position to houserule in a ga...   Apr 26 2009, 03:20 PM
|- - Larme   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Apr 26 2009, 11:2...   Apr 26 2009, 04:54 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Larme @ Apr 26 2009, 10:54 AM) So,...   Apr 26 2009, 05:07 PM
- - Stahlseele   Why not simply use the old Essence/Bio-Index Syste...   Apr 26 2009, 07:28 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   What your missing is that I am attempting to expla...   Apr 26 2009, 07:39 PM
- - Stahlseele   thus me saying:"use the SR3 Bio-Index"   Apr 26 2009, 07:43 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   RAW tells us two things: 1) Lost Essence can neve...   Apr 26 2009, 08:38 PM
|- - Larme   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 26 2009, 03:38...   Apr 26 2009, 09:00 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Larme @ Apr 26 2009, 04:00 PM) Thi...   Apr 26 2009, 09:42 PM
- - eidolon   Yup, you just recalculate the totals and calculate...   Apr 26 2009, 08:40 PM
- - Stahlseele   And the SR4 Essence is neither biological, nor met...   Apr 26 2009, 08:57 PM
- - silva   Larme is right. There is nothing wrong or retarded...   Apr 26 2009, 09:37 PM
- - ornot   Once again, the essence rule is not complicated. I...   Apr 26 2009, 10:02 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (ornot @ Apr 26 2009, 05:02 PM) Why...   Apr 26 2009, 11:14 PM
|- - ornot   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 27 2009, 12:14 AM) ...   Apr 27 2009, 08:09 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   What you are saying is correct, but only half of t...   Apr 26 2009, 10:35 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (Muspelsheimr)What you are all missing is th...   Apr 26 2009, 10:58 PM
- - silva   By the way, I thought about ditching this essence ...   Apr 27 2009, 12:37 AM
- - eidolon   You wouldn't be able to cram nearly as much in...   Apr 27 2009, 01:14 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   I don't see any problem with it, is what we do...   Apr 27 2009, 02:44 AM
- - Inane Imp   Ornot, You seem to have misunderstood. Muspellheim...   Apr 27 2009, 08:50 AM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Inane Imp @ Apr 27 2009, 10:50 AM)...   Apr 27 2009, 09:01 AM
|- - Inane Imp   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Apr 27 2009, 10:01 A...   Apr 27 2009, 09:05 AM
- - Stahlseele   Either use the one Essence hole thingie that can b...   Apr 27 2009, 09:09 AM
- - Writer   I'm jumping into this a little late, but, wher...   Apr 27 2009, 01:36 PM
- - Stahlseele   That with the two holes is in either an errata or ...   Apr 27 2009, 01:50 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Writer @ Apr 27 2009, 03:36 PM) Th...   Apr 27 2009, 02:34 PM
- - Caadium   I actually don't see this as overly complex an...   Apr 27 2009, 02:56 PM
- - Stahlseele   Yeah, as if mundanes were not gimped enough allrea...   Apr 27 2009, 03:55 PM
|- - Larme   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 27 2009, 10:55 AM...   Apr 27 2009, 06:42 PM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (Larme @ Apr 27 2009, 12:42 PM) ......   Apr 27 2009, 07:17 PM
- - ornot   Dear gods people. Am I so completely incomprehensi...   Apr 27 2009, 05:04 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Yes, except for a few key things. 1) The bioware ...   Apr 27 2009, 05:45 PM
|- - Dunsany   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 27 2009, 01:45...   Apr 27 2009, 07:32 PM
- - sds   Muspell, I think that Ornots point - which I happe...   Apr 27 2009, 07:05 PM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (sds @ Apr 27 2009, 12:05 PM) When ...   Apr 27 2009, 07:26 PM
|- - Larme   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 27 2009, 02:26...   Apr 27 2009, 08:09 PM
- - sds   Okay, not surprisingly I don't agree with you ...   Apr 27 2009, 07:48 PM
- - deek   Here's a couple of mine: Movement Rules Move...   Apr 27 2009, 09:02 PM
- - Dreadlord   I have Movement House Rules in my game as well. I...   Apr 27 2009, 09:26 PM
- - Inane Imp   From the 'Can a rating 1 Commlink run programs...   Apr 27 2009, 11:27 PM
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