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HappyDaze
post May 2 2009, 11:07 PM
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Besides the ward problem, walking around with a sustained spell, directly designates you as trouble for anyone who is astrally perceiving.

The assumption is that all sustained spells are 'combat buffs' and that having them on is like walking around town with a shotgun in your hands. This is often especially true with sustaining foci and quickening. I've seen this appear quite often on Dumpshock, and I disagree with it.

There are a great many spells that non-ciminals would love to have cast on them and sustained via foci or quickened. The Health spells provide such things as boosts to Charisma, Intuition, Logic, and Willpower - things that would certainly come in handy for corporate execs and researchers. Firefighters and divers would both love Oxygenate. Alleviate Allergy and Alleviate Addiction should be reasonable treatment plans for the elite with such problems. In fact, I'm sure that somewhere in the Sixth World, hair loss and male enhancement have been the subject of spell research too. Detection, Illusion, and even Manipulation spells can certinly find some legitimate use too, although the book-provided spells are generally oriented towards the needs of a runner team so fewer examples are available.

I guess that I'm just having a bit of a knee-jerk reaction against what seems to be metagaming (Oh, it's a spell - most of the ones in the book are best for illegal crap - so that guy with the spell on him must be up to something.).
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- HappyDaze   BANG! BANG! BANG! "Well, he did have a spell on him - he must've been dangerous!"   May 2 2009, 11:07 PM
- - hobgoblin   iirc, if one can see that its a spell, 1 or more a...   May 2 2009, 11:09 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 3 2009, 01:09 AM) ...   May 6 2009, 12:24 AM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ May 6 2009, 02:24 AM...   May 6 2009, 09:39 PM
- - HappyDaze   If you take the time to Assense, not simply at a g...   May 2 2009, 11:11 PM
- - blindfox   the same applies to various forms of cybertechnolo...   May 2 2009, 11:23 PM
- - eidolon   Absolutely agree. On both HD's and fox's ...   May 2 2009, 11:32 PM
- - Tanegar   QUOTE (HappyDaze @ May 2 2009, 07:07 PM) ...   May 3 2009, 05:51 AM
- - hyzmarca   Clitoromegaly.   May 3 2009, 06:02 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ May 3 2009, 02:02 AM) C...   May 3 2009, 06:14 AM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE I wonder what happens when you cast Enlarge ...   May 3 2009, 09:12 AM
|- - Tanegar   QUOTE (HappyDaze @ May 3 2009, 05:12 AM) ...   May 6 2009, 12:13 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Tanegar @ May 5 2009, 07:13 PM) On...   May 6 2009, 01:55 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ May 5 2009, 06...   May 6 2009, 02:05 AM
|- - Writer   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 5 2009, 10...   May 6 2009, 08:17 AM
- - Stahlseele   Yes you are . . Create Bullshit ain't weird ...   May 3 2009, 09:19 AM
- - Veggiesama   I guess I missed that part on the character sheet.   May 3 2009, 09:48 AM
- - nezumi   If you're not rich and you have a spell on you...   May 4 2009, 02:43 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (nezumi @ May 4 2009, 10:43 AM) If ...   May 4 2009, 02:44 PM
|- - nezumi   QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 4 2009, 10:44 AM) S...   May 4 2009, 05:46 PM
- - suppenhuhn   Well, iirc spells above force 3 require a permit, ...   May 4 2009, 02:57 PM
- - eidolon   If an awakened officer saw you, astral scanned you...   May 4 2009, 03:11 PM
|- - suppenhuhn   QUOTE (eidolon @ May 4 2009, 05:11 PM) If...   May 4 2009, 03:26 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (eidolon @ May 4 2009, 09:11 AM) It...   May 4 2009, 05:53 PM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (kzt @ May 4 2009, 07:53 PM) But as...   May 6 2009, 12:22 PM
- - Stahlseele   Also, what happens if the spell is cast on SOMEBOD...   May 4 2009, 03:14 PM
- - SpasticTeapot   There are a few small problems with this. 1. Magi...   May 4 2009, 03:35 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (nezumi)No, they can't cast a spell whil...   May 4 2009, 06:03 PM
|- - nezumi   QUOTE (eidolon @ May 4 2009, 01:03 PM) Yo...   May 4 2009, 07:28 PM
- - Adarael   ...And quite frankly, if you toss up an increase c...   May 4 2009, 06:25 PM
- - Writer   "I'm a mage. People want to hurt me. Ar...   May 4 2009, 06:46 PM
- - suppenhuhn   My point is simply that when you intend to run aro...   May 4 2009, 07:12 PM
- - ReverendMo   Few things to think about when looking at how sust...   May 4 2009, 07:52 PM
|- - nezumi   QUOTE (ReverendMo @ May 4 2009, 03:52 PM)...   May 5 2009, 01:21 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (ReverendMo)3. Joe Schmo beat cop, unless a ...   May 5 2009, 12:06 AM
- - Inane Imp   There is also a little bit of 'Trid is reality...   May 5 2009, 03:05 AM
- - ReverendMo   Put quite succinctly by Inane and nezumi, magic is...   May 5 2009, 10:12 PM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE In a nutshell, in every game I've ever r...   May 6 2009, 12:04 AM
|- - nezumi   QUOTE (HappyDaze @ May 5 2009, 07:04 PM) ...   May 6 2009, 01:38 PM
|- - ReverendMo   QUOTE (HappyDaze @ May 5 2009, 04:04 PM) ...   May 6 2009, 05:40 PM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE I'm thinking Grade 3 initiates have bett...   May 6 2009, 12:44 AM
- - Tanegar   Males being as they are, I'm pretty sure there...   May 6 2009, 01:09 AM
- - Draco18s   http://xkcd.com/570/   May 6 2009, 05:41 AM
- - HappyDaze   nezumi, your examples prove that you have no idea ...   May 6 2009, 02:01 PM
- - eidolon   Nez, you're still on "poor guy in an AAA ...   May 6 2009, 03:11 PM
- - Adarael   Also, the number of people kept in the barrens is ...   May 6 2009, 05:19 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (eidolon @ May 6 2009, 11:11 AM) Ne...   May 6 2009, 06:29 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (nezumi @ May 6 2009, 12:29 PM) 1) ...   May 6 2009, 07:18 PM
|- - Adarael   QUOTE (nezumi @ May 6 2009, 11:29 AM) Sou...   May 6 2009, 08:43 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (nezumi @ May 6 2009, 08:29 PM) 1) ...   May 6 2009, 09:17 PM
|- - The Mack   QUOTE (nezumi @ May 7 2009, 03:29 AM) I w...   May 7 2009, 02:37 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (The Mack @ May 6 2009, 10:37 PM) H...   May 7 2009, 03:03 AM
|- - The Mack   QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 7 2009, 12:03 PM) T...   May 7 2009, 03:20 AM
|- - eidolon   QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 6 2009, 09:03 PM) T...   May 7 2009, 04:05 AM
- - DireRadiant   All magical effects noticeable to a Mundane are Po...   May 6 2009, 07:05 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (nezumi)A mage with a force 4+ spell is aski...   May 6 2009, 11:43 PM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE A mage with a force 4+ spell is asking for t...   May 7 2009, 04:14 AM
- - Writer   How are mundanes able to tell the difference betwe...   May 7 2009, 04:17 AM
|- - Inane Imp   Writer: first off, I generally agree with you. But...   May 7 2009, 07:14 AM
- - eidolon   Writer, that post is full of awesome and win.   May 7 2009, 04:23 AM
- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Writer @ May 7 2009, 12:17 AM) How...   May 7 2009, 06:56 AM
- - Dakka Dakka   I agree with most of what you wrote Imp but, notic...   May 7 2009, 07:24 AM
|- - Inane Imp   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ May 7 2009, 08:24 AM...   May 7 2009, 07:35 AM
- - Dakka Dakka   The difference in those examples is that while you...   May 7 2009, 09:19 AM
- - Cardul   To me, an interesting issue, though I am not sure ...   May 7 2009, 10:13 AM
- - Machiavelli   The problem is, we all know that we are playing SR...   May 7 2009, 10:49 AM
- - Dakka Dakka   This kind of sounds like pink mohawk players vs gr...   May 7 2009, 10:56 AM
- - Machiavelli   Naaa...I´m playing an charisma-7-female-elven-mag...   May 7 2009, 11:03 AM
- - Fuchs   What do you mean, "can't have a sensor...   May 7 2009, 11:05 AM
|- - The Mack   QUOTE (Fuchs @ May 7 2009, 08:05 PM) What...   May 7 2009, 01:26 PM
|- - Adarael   QUOTE (The Mack @ May 7 2009, 06:26 AM) E...   May 7 2009, 04:45 PM
- - Writer   I think the main focus of this thread is questioni...   May 7 2009, 01:07 PM
|- - suppenhuhn   QUOTE (Writer @ May 7 2009, 03:07 PM) Thi...   May 7 2009, 06:11 PM
|- - Writer   QUOTE (suppenhuhn @ May 7 2009, 02:11 PM)...   May 7 2009, 06:48 PM
- - Fuchs   How many of you have curtains so people can't ...   May 7 2009, 03:35 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (Writer)A clothing store may ward the dressi...   May 7 2009, 08:50 PM
|- - Writer   QUOTE (eidolon @ May 7 2009, 04:50 PM) An...   May 7 2009, 09:16 PM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE How many of you have curtains so people can...   May 7 2009, 10:06 PM
- - nezumi   "Walls without doors" make perfect sense...   May 8 2009, 03:16 AM
|- - Inane Imp   QUOTE (nezumi @ May 8 2009, 03:16 AM) I...   May 8 2009, 04:19 AM
- - Fuchs   Imagine you're a rich (and therefore good look...   May 8 2009, 07:22 AM


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