 Limiting Control Thoughts/Mob Mind, Any ideas? |
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The Mage in the SR4 campaign I am running is kind of ruining the game experience for other characters in many ways with extensive use of Control Thoughts/Mob Mind. It seems that every encounter or situation they run in to, these spells can be used with near impunity to remove the threat. Obviously, throwing an opposing Mage into each encounter would help to mitigate the issue, but there are many situations where it just does not make sense for a Mage to be in the opposition. In particular, the current missions I have been running deal with alot of gang activity, and it just does not fit for a Mage to be hanging around with these gang-bangers.
I don't want to eliminate these spells altogether, having already let the genie out of the bottle, but does anyone have any ideas on how they can be reigned in a bit? |
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Kerrang Limiting Control Thoughts/Mob Mind May 4 2009, 03:52 PM
Draco18s By RAW the subject(s) make Willpower rolls every [... May 4 2009, 03:58 PM Stahlseele Use Background-Count.
especially if it's mobs,... May 4 2009, 04:01 PM Jaid one interpretation is that you cast the spell, and... May 4 2009, 04:04 PM DireRadiant How would people react to a mage going around fire... May 4 2009, 04:19 PM Warlordtheft And that goes back to one of the rules in the SR u... May 4 2009, 05:10 PM kzt Ban them. They are overpowered and overpowering.
... May 4 2009, 05:24 PM Murrdox I suppose it really depends on your campaign and t... May 4 2009, 05:57 PM
Heath Robinson QUOTE (Murrdox @ May 4 2009, 06:57 PM) - ... May 4 2009, 07:27 PM eudemonist Increase the drain? May 4 2009, 06:54 PM Kerrang Thanks for the good replies so far, as I noted in ... May 4 2009, 07:22 PM Zaranthan QUOTE (Kerrang @ May 4 2009, 03:22 PM) I ... May 4 2009, 07:41 PM Warlordtheft QUOTE (Kerrang @ May 4 2009, 03:22 PM) Th... May 4 2009, 08:20 PM kzt You could have a gang with a free spirit hanging o... May 4 2009, 07:29 PM deek I had a mage in my last game that had these spells... May 4 2009, 07:57 PM Murrdox QUOTE (deek @ May 4 2009, 02:57 PM) The o... May 4 2009, 08:43 PM DWC What'd the player say when you talked to him a... May 4 2009, 08:02 PM paws2sky QUOTE (DWC @ May 4 2009, 04:02 PM) What... May 5 2009, 09:01 PM Stahlseele Would Mob Mind actually work on SINGLE targets?
o... May 4 2009, 09:02 PM Dakka Dakka Hmm, the forum seems to have eaten my previous pos... May 5 2009, 07:27 AM DireRadiant I've played in games where the team's firs... May 4 2009, 09:27 PM Warlordtheft QUOTE (DireRadiant @ May 4 2009, 04:27 PM... May 5 2009, 12:01 AM Shilaleagh warded helmets and/or battle suits. naturally, not... May 5 2009, 12:59 AM Draco18s QUOTE (Shilaleagh @ May 4 2009, 08:59 PM)... May 5 2009, 01:01 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 4 2009, 07:01 PM) Y... May 5 2009, 01:32 AM kzt QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 4 2009, 07... May 5 2009, 03:39 PM Warlordtheft QUOTE (kzt @ May 5 2009, 10:39 AM) You ca... May 5 2009, 04:39 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ May 5 2009, 12:39 P... May 5 2009, 04:53 PM kzt QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ May 5 2009, 10:39 A... May 5 2009, 10:30 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (kzt @ May 5 2009, 03:30 PM) No, th... May 6 2009, 12:33 AM Warlordtheft QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 5 2009, 07... May 6 2009, 01:08 AM twilite If Mob Mind is a problem with large gangs, have th... May 5 2009, 02:05 AM Shinobi Killfist They were weaker in earlier edition, in 3rd editio... May 5 2009, 03:20 AM Psikerlord Yyeah those two spells are a bit game-breaky. In t... May 5 2009, 03:46 AM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Psikerlord @ May 4 2009, 11:46 PM)... May 5 2009, 04:55 AM Mordinvan QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ May 4 2009, 09... May 5 2009, 05:40 AM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Mordinvan @ May 5 2009, 12:40 AM) ... May 6 2009, 01:46 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ May 5 2009, 06... May 6 2009, 02:00 AM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 5 2009, 09... May 6 2009, 02:18 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ May 5 2009, 07... May 6 2009, 02:21 AM Draco18s QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 5 2009, 10... May 6 2009, 05:23 AM Mordinvan QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 5 2009, 11:23 PM) E... May 6 2009, 07:17 AM Zaranthan The instagib rifle has already been handled, so I... May 6 2009, 02:10 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Zaranthan @ May 6 2009, 10:10 AM) ... May 6 2009, 05:12 PM Warlordtheft QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 6 2009, 12:23 AM) E... May 6 2009, 04:47 PM kzt QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ May 6 2009, 10:47 A... May 6 2009, 07:30 PM Mordinvan QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ May 5 2009, 07... May 6 2009, 02:48 AM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Mordinvan @ May 5 2009, 10:48 PM) ... May 7 2009, 04:26 AM Mordinvan QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ May 6 2009, 09... May 7 2009, 05:07 AM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Mordinvan @ May 7 2009, 01:07 AM) ... May 7 2009, 05:36 AM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ May 7 2009, 07... May 7 2009, 06:09 AM Jaid QUOTE (Psikerlord @ May 4 2009, 10:46 PM)... May 5 2009, 06:40 AM Draco18s QUOTE (Jaid @ May 5 2009, 02:40 AM) [WOTC... May 5 2009, 07:09 AM Blade Lots of good points have been made (background cou... May 5 2009, 08:48 AM Psikerlord Actually, on reflection, I don't think control... May 5 2009, 11:42 AM Dakka Dakka Another tactical disadvantage of mob mind is that ... May 5 2009, 12:09 PM Murrdox We have a mage in our group that has this spell. ... May 5 2009, 03:29 PM Dakka Dakka QUOTE ('SR4A p. 194')Wards are a temporary... May 5 2009, 04:56 PM Jaid on a side note, mob mind is a sustained area spell... May 5 2009, 05:45 PM Psikerlord wards are stationary only - you can't move the... May 5 2009, 08:58 PM Mr. Unpronounceable You CAN move wards - the important bit is that the... May 5 2009, 09:01 PM Warlordtheft And back to the OP---his player is maxed out dice ... May 6 2009, 02:12 AM Warlordtheft And back to the OP---his player is maxed out dice ... May 6 2009, 02:13 AM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ May 5 2009, 09:13 P... May 6 2009, 02:33 AM Mordinvan QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ May 5 2009, 08... May 6 2009, 03:07 AM kzt QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ May 5 2009, 08:13 P... May 6 2009, 04:59 AM IceKatze hi hi
I've had lots of problems with this spe... May 6 2009, 03:03 AM Mordinvan QUOTE (IceKatze @ May 5 2009, 09:03 PM) O... May 6 2009, 03:11 AM IceKatze hi hi
QUOTE Can't you do this with a mind pro... May 6 2009, 03:27 AM Mordinvan QUOTE (IceKatze @ May 5 2009, 08:27 PM) S... May 6 2009, 04:33 AM Blade I'm not concerned about the combat uses of min... May 6 2009, 09:44 AM IceKatze hi hi
QUOTE Since I can erase the signature of an... May 6 2009, 10:56 AM Mordinvan QUOTE (IceKatze @ May 6 2009, 04:56 AM) h... May 6 2009, 07:50 PM Dakka Dakka Where did you get that the target of a manipulatio... May 6 2009, 02:19 PM paws2sky QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ May 6 2009, 10:19 AM... May 7 2009, 01:13 PM Machiavelli Besides that, I really don´t understand the probl... May 6 2009, 02:50 PM Dakka Dakka As far as I know there are no limitations on contr... May 6 2009, 04:54 PM Mr. Unpronounceable Besides, shouldn't the timing be more like:
R... May 6 2009, 06:43 PM IceKatze hi hi
For many well kept secrets, there's onl... May 6 2009, 08:26 PM Mordinvan QUOTE (IceKatze @ May 6 2009, 01:26 PM) h... May 7 2009, 04:10 AM Psikerlord control thoughts is fine, barring RP fallout for u... May 7 2009, 01:55 AM Larme First of all, the suggestions of changing the rule... May 7 2009, 06:29 AM Machiavelli QUOTE (Larme @ May 7 2009, 06:29 AM) Firs... May 7 2009, 02:08 PM Draco18s Control Mob Mage:
Human
Attributes:
2 in all of t... May 7 2009, 06:49 AM Jaid you can control their thoughts to "i should t... May 7 2009, 06:58 AM Larme QUOTE (Jaid @ May 7 2009, 02:58 AM) you c... May 7 2009, 03:03 PM crizh QUOTE (Larme @ May 7 2009, 04:03 PM) Mass... May 7 2009, 05:01 PM Larme QUOTE (crizh @ May 7 2009, 01:01 PM) What... May 7 2009, 06:02 PM The Mack QUOTE (Larme @ May 8 2009, 03:02 AM) Howe... May 7 2009, 06:12 PM Draco18s Except that it takes a Force 5 or 6 Stunball to kn... May 7 2009, 07:00 AM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 7 2009, 09:00 AM) E... May 7 2009, 07:24 AM Jaid QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ May 7 2009, 02:24 AM... May 7 2009, 07:44 AM Zurai QUOTE (Jaid @ May 7 2009, 02:44 AM) with ... May 7 2009, 09:07 AM Draco18s QUOTE (Zurai @ May 7 2009, 05:07 AM) Errr... May 7 2009, 04:59 PM Blade The last posts makes me wonder what would happen i... May 7 2009, 04:46 PM crizh QUOTE (Blade @ May 7 2009, 05:46 PM) The ... May 7 2009, 05:14 PM Dakka Dakka Open the door and keep it open is a valid order. T... May 7 2009, 04:57 PM FlashbackJon QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ May 7 2009, 11:57 AM... May 7 2009, 05:23 PM Blade Ok. I was suspecting something like this, but I di... May 7 2009, 05:19 PM Draco18s The stupid test:
However, "tell me the passw... May 7 2009, 06:15 PM  |
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