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Heath Robinson
post Jun 2 2009, 03:46 PM
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case 1:
    Bob encrypts his connection to Alice
    Eve initiates decryption on the Bob-Alice connection
    Bob drops the encryption removing Eve's progress
    Goto case 1


The problem here is, by it's very nature, down to the fact that a particular instance of the Encryption is cracked. Dropping the instance and replacing it resets all progress made. Cycling periodically renders nodes impossible to crack.

A solution is to change the Decrypt action to target the node itself instead of the encryption instance (but the action requires a visible instance of encryption that involves that node to work). Hits are maintained between attempts to decrypt different instances created by the node and once a particular instance has been cracked you have the keys for all encryption that node performs until an arbirary date in the future when sufficient new entropy for a fresh master key has been generated.


Quick, dirty, reasonable solution imo. Requesting Comment.
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- Heath Robinson   Fixxing Unbreakable Encryption   Jun 2 2009, 03:46 PM
- - Darkeus   Don't you have to intercept the wireless traff...   Jun 2 2009, 04:12 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Darkeus @ Jun 2 2009, 11:12 AM) Do...   Jun 2 2009, 04:48 PM
|- - Darkeus   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jun 2 2009, 12:48 PM) O...   Jun 2 2009, 06:42 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Darkeus @ Jun 2 2009, 11:42 AM) My...   Jun 3 2009, 12:37 AM
- - Blade   Or you could consider that it's a given that t...   Jun 2 2009, 04:14 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Blade @ Jun 2 2009, 08:14 AM) Or y...   Jun 2 2009, 04:28 PM
- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 07:46...   Jun 2 2009, 04:27 PM
- - Malachi   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 09:46...   Jun 2 2009, 09:08 PM
|- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Jun 2 2009, 05:27 PM) Er...   Jun 2 2009, 09:29 PM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 03:29...   Jun 2 2009, 09:36 PM
- - Heath Robinson   Mmm, but Frank's stuff at least states outrigh...   Jun 2 2009, 10:04 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 02:04...   Jun 2 2009, 10:06 PM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 04:04...   Jun 2 2009, 10:29 PM
|- - The Jake   Isn't this why Unwired explicitly states all c...   Jun 3 2009, 12:28 AM
|- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jun 3 2009, 01:28 AM) I...   Jun 3 2009, 12:44 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 07:44...   Jun 3 2009, 12:47 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 07:44...   Jun 3 2009, 12:47 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 08:44...   Jun 3 2009, 01:00 AM
||- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (Jaid @ Jun 3 2009, 02:00 AM) his b...   Jun 3 2009, 01:13 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 06:13...   Jun 3 2009, 01:44 AM
|||- - kzt   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 2 2009, 06...   Jun 3 2009, 05:18 AM
|||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (kzt @ Jun 3 2009, 12:18 AM) No it ...   Jun 3 2009, 05:23 AM
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|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 08:44...   Jun 3 2009, 02:41 AM
- - Heath Robinson   Frank's mostly talking about OTPs. These are ...   Jun 2 2009, 10:55 PM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 04:55...   Jun 2 2009, 11:05 PM
||- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (Malachi @ Jun 3 2009, 12:05 AM) I ...   Jun 2 2009, 11:44 PM
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- - Fix-it   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 09:46...   Jun 2 2009, 11:08 PM
- - BlueMax   All of that was about tech and crypto today. We ...   Jun 2 2009, 11:09 PM
- - Cthulhudreams   Shadowrun 4th ed has wireless power transmission b...   Jun 3 2009, 12:35 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Okay, lets just get this out there. Well implement...   Jun 3 2009, 01:56 AM
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|- - Traul   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Jun 3 2009, 03:56 ...   Jun 3 2009, 02:56 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Jun 2 2009, 06:56 ...   Jun 3 2009, 05:21 AM
|- - Crusher Bob   QUOTE (kzt @ Jun 3 2009, 01:21 PM) Until ...   Jun 3 2009, 08:08 AM
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|- - kzt   QUOTE (Malachi @ Jun 2 2009, 08:58 PM) My...   Jun 3 2009, 05:29 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE high security areas Last I checked we'r...   Jun 3 2009, 03:03 AM
- - Traul   There is high security and HIGH security. Accordin...   Jun 3 2009, 03:11 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Traul @ Jun 2 2009, 09:11 PM) Ther...   Jun 3 2009, 03:25 AM
- - Draco18s   Alright, we have to break this down into game term...   Jun 3 2009, 03:27 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Part of his point is that it's very easy to ac...   Jun 3 2009, 03:53 AM
- - Jhaiisiin   We used to KNOW that you couldn't sail around ...   Jun 3 2009, 04:12 AM
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||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jun 2 2009, 11:30 PM) W...   Jun 3 2009, 02:53 PM
|- - Crusher Bob   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Jun 3 2009, 12:12 PM) ...   Jun 3 2009, 04:53 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ Jun 2 2009, 11:53 PM...   Jun 3 2009, 05:09 AM
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|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (nspace @ Jun 2 2009, 11:37 PM) As ...   Jun 3 2009, 04:45 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jun 2 2009, 08:46...   Jun 3 2009, 04:44 AM
- - Jaid   calculus doesn't let you divide by 0. it lets ...   Jun 3 2009, 04:45 AM
|- - nspace   QUOTE (Jaid @ Jun 2 2009, 08:45 PM) calcu...   Jun 3 2009, 04:59 AM
|- - KitsuneKaze   QUOTE (nspace @ Jun 3 2009, 02:59 PM) How...   Jun 3 2009, 05:34 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (KitsuneKaze @ Jun 2 2009, 10:34 PM...   Jun 3 2009, 05:37 AM
||- - KitsuneKaze   QUOTE (kzt @ Jun 3 2009, 03:37 PM) Not en...   Jun 3 2009, 05:41 AM
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|- - nspace   QUOTE (KitsuneKaze @ Jun 2 2009, 10:34 PM...   Jun 3 2009, 03:09 PM
|- - KitsuneKaze   QUOTE (nspace @ Jun 4 2009, 01:09 AM) Has...   Jun 4 2009, 12:27 AM
- - Jhaiisiin   Granted, there are nigh infinite solutions, but on...   Jun 3 2009, 04:57 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Jun 2 2009, 11:57 PM) ...   Jun 3 2009, 05:20 AM
- - Crusher Bob   No, there is no one correct solutions, because sev...   Jun 3 2009, 05:04 AM
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|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (kzt @ Jun 3 2009, 12:34 AM) That i...   Jun 3 2009, 05:41 AM
||- - Crusher Bob   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jun 3 2009, 01:41 PM) I...   Jun 3 2009, 05:51 AM
|- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (kzt @ Jun 3 2009, 12:34 AM) That i...   Jun 3 2009, 05:46 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Jun 2 2009, 10:46 ...   Jun 3 2009, 05:51 AM
|- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (kzt @ Jun 3 2009, 12:51 AM) Typica...   Jun 3 2009, 07:19 AM
- - Falconer   To OP: Unwired had a bunch of relevant stuff... in...   Jun 3 2009, 05:52 AM
- - Crusher Bob   That quote is usually attributed to Franklin, not ...   Jun 3 2009, 06:03 AM
- - Crusher Bob   Have we had the discussion about what encyrption a...   Jun 3 2009, 06:15 AM
- - Blade   Just two things about OTP: 1. No they can't b...   Jun 3 2009, 08:21 AM
- - Crusher Bob   'Proper' OTP are generated by things like ...   Jun 3 2009, 08:26 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Yes, there are informational proofs for OTP posses...   Jun 3 2009, 03:22 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Jun 3 2009, 08:22 ...   Jun 3 2009, 04:11 PM
- - BlueMax   I appreciate the fire inside each of you fighting ...   Jun 3 2009, 04:57 PM


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