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EnlitenedDespot
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I am distinctly interested in making a mage character work that doesn't have just 4-6 in every magical ability and 0 in everything else, as well as no gadgets due to no money and does nothing but hurls manaball to kill everything. I am trying to actually build this character and may post something shortly. I had a few questions about some things so I can ensure I avoid certain pitfalls or don't ignore good uses of abilities I think are worthless (as well as not passing up good opportunities). So, here we go:

-I hear all these ridiculous things about Spirits of Man. I've vaguely read a little bit about them in Street Magic but have no idea what it is that makes them so 'awesome.' Please enlighten me (and perhaps where to reference that information).

-As it stands, I'm leaning towards Sorcery 5 (get spec after chargen), Counterspelling 4 or 5 (spec after chargen), and Summoning 4 or 5 (dunno if I'll spec or what into). Based on this, I'm clearly leaving out some magical skills for the opportunity of having a character with some mundane ability. I wanted to ask,

-What's so awesome about Binding vs. Summoning besides the non-expiration of services? What can a bound spirit do that a summoned spirit can't do that is so awesome? Sustaining spells would be nice, and as far as I can tell this is only from Binding, right? I am leaning towards ignoring Binding at chargen partly based on the need to invest money into something that will still eventually expire (I hate burning money for disposable things if I can help it not to) and because the fluff just makes it sound like a heinous thing to do anyway. Anyway, why should I get Binding or not?

-Is ritual spellcasting worth it at all? Honestly, I'm not seeing the usefulness of the ability and I don't intend to roll around with 5 mage buddies capable of helping me with such a ritual, anyway.

-Banishing is relatively worthless, right? Assuming I have a Manabolt or Stunbolt spell, this is more effective in the physical realm or astral realm than Banishing, no? I just see myself using Banishing (even with a 4-5) and ending up getting a lot of drain without much effect.

-Can I ignore Assensing until post-char gen? I like the skill and kind of want it, but it's not fitting in well at the moment. Since I can't default, does this mean I can't tell jack diddly at all from astral perception or projection? That would suck...

Looking at making a Hermetic or Chaos Mage, I like the concept of Spirits of Man and I most likely want a Logic-based tradition. Anyhow, feel free to give me some advice. As it stands, I'm strapped for BP and can't even raise my Edge above the base 2 (base 2 for Human), so suggestions on what I can skimp on or what I shouldn't skimp on would be nice.
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- EnlitenedDespot   Chargen Mage Advice   Jun 28 2009, 08:17 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (EnlitenedDespot @ Jun 28 2009, 02...   Jun 28 2009, 09:51 AM
|- - Kingboy   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jun 28 2009, 05:51...   Jul 1 2009, 06:21 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   Well, what I was asking for, first of all, was ass...   Jun 28 2009, 10:59 AM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (EnlitenedDespot @ Jun 28 2009, 04...   Jun 28 2009, 11:20 PM
- - cREbralFIX   One thing I like to do is take cyber and bioware. ...   Jun 28 2009, 12:51 PM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (cREbralFIX @ Jun 28 2009, 08:51 AM...   Jun 28 2009, 11:02 PM
- - TheOOB   -I hear all these ridiculous things about Spirits ...   Jun 29 2009, 07:25 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   I would first of all like to apologize if I appear...   Jun 29 2009, 09:12 AM
- - ElFenrir   Personally, I like what you're doing here. You...   Jun 29 2009, 09:43 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   Great, thanks! By the way, I'm also fine ...   Jun 29 2009, 09:48 PM
- - ElFenrir   I've played a very competent combat mage befor...   Jun 29 2009, 10:03 PM
- - RedeemerofOgar   From a pure crunch standpoint you're probably ...   Jun 30 2009, 02:50 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   I completely blanked on the aspects regarding sust...   Jun 30 2009, 06:28 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   As awesome as Binding is (I hate to say this), the...   Jun 30 2009, 08:01 AM
- - Generico   The real problem with your build is that you decid...   Jun 30 2009, 08:18 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   I like the input. That commentary on the Chameleo...   Jun 30 2009, 08:52 AM
- - Thanee   Yep, definitely get Assensing. It's extremely ...   Jun 30 2009, 10:06 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   I'll have to really consider the usefulness (o...   Jul 1 2009, 03:58 AM
- - Generico   I strongly recommend that you take summoning. Ther...   Jul 1 2009, 06:14 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   Thanks for the input, Generico! Sounds like l...   Jul 1 2009, 07:52 AM
- - ElFenrir   Here we go. Try: Ditch Infiltration/Shadowing for...   Jul 1 2009, 07:55 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   That's what I was strongly leaning towards. H...   Jul 1 2009, 08:00 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   Was thinking something like this: Counterspelling...   Jul 1 2009, 08:06 AM
|- - RedeemerofOgar   QUOTE (EnlitenedDespot @ Jul 1 2009, 03:0...   Jul 2 2009, 09:34 AM
- - ElFenrir   That's actually a real good set there. Binding...   Jul 1 2009, 08:18 AM
- - Generico   It's also worth noting that spirits can also s...   Jul 1 2009, 09:31 AM
- - Generico   You should also read the (very long) threads on th...   Jul 3 2009, 07:59 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   I was thinking of dropping the Summoning to 4, and...   Jul 10 2009, 06:01 AM
- - WyldKnight   You know I was thinking of making a mage and a lot...   Jul 10 2009, 07:04 AM
- - knasser   Just to counter all the people who are praising Bi...   Jul 10 2009, 07:06 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   Knasser, you do make an excellent point and this i...   Jul 10 2009, 07:38 AM
- - cREbralFIX   QUOTE As for progression of the character, I just...   Jul 10 2009, 01:47 PM
- - DoomFrog   A couple things I would mention. First about Shad...   Jul 10 2009, 11:58 PM
- - EnlitenedDespot   All great suggestions, DoomFrog. I'm thinking...   Jul 12 2009, 07:18 AM
- - DoomFrog   Definitely go with RP over min-max'ing it alwa...   Jul 12 2009, 07:55 AM
- - Octopiii   QUOTE Power Focus (Force 2): 12 BP (money+binding)...   Jul 13 2009, 07:40 AM
- - EnlitenedDespot   I was simply comparing the BP-Karma ratios in rega...   Jul 17 2009, 09:02 AM
|- - Octopiii   QUOTE (EnlitenedDespot @ Jul 17 2009, 01...   Jul 17 2009, 03:34 PM
- - EnlitenedDespot   I'm not saying it's not a factor, I'm ...   Jul 18 2009, 06:25 AM


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