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McAllister
post Jul 15 2009, 05:44 AM
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Two questions about Astral Hazing.

First; it says that it's a rating 4 background count (no mention of mana ebbs or negative counts, so I'm going to assume positive) that's tainted by darker emotions. Is there any way to use this to my advantage? I'm sure "darker emotions" describes most blood magicians' practices. Could I take up blood magic, use it for really twisted stuff, and get 4 added to my magic instead of subtracted? Or maybe just get the bonus if I'm using magic while feeling particularly emotionally tormented? If that were so, I'd be more than willing to pay for it as if it were a positive quality.

Also, how does it interact with metamagics? Can I Cleanse it, or aspect it towards my own tradition with Geomancy?
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- McAllister   Astral Hazing for a Magician   Jul 15 2009, 05:44 AM
- - Machiavelli   First: you can´t play twisted mages Second: acc. ...   Jul 15 2009, 05:53 AM
- - Ravor   Actually, the rules for Blood Mages aren't rea...   Jul 15 2009, 06:39 AM
|- - thearistocrat   QUOTE (Ravor @ Jul 15 2009, 07:39 AM) Act...   Jul 15 2009, 08:10 AM
|- - Wiggles Von Beerchuggin'   QUOTE (thearistocrat @ Jul 15 2009, 09:10...   Jul 15 2009, 05:07 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (thearistocrat @ Jul 15 2009, 02:10...   Jul 15 2009, 05:34 PM
|- - thearistocrat   The Aztlan Sourcebook got blood magic right the fi...   Jul 15 2009, 07:29 PM
||- - Mäx   QUOTE (thearistocrat @ Jul 15 2009, 10:29...   Jul 15 2009, 07:53 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 15 2009, 01:34 PM) Th...   Jul 15 2009, 09:06 PM
|- - AngelisStorm   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 15 2009, 05:06 PM) ...   Jul 17 2009, 12:27 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 15 2009, 04:06 PM) ...   Jul 17 2009, 03:48 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 17 2009, 11:48 AM) Th...   Jul 17 2009, 04:14 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 17 2009, 11:14 AM) ...   Jul 17 2009, 04:27 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (McAllister @ Jul 15 2009, 07:44 AM...   Jul 15 2009, 07:38 AM
- - KCKitsune   Does anyone else here think that a mage with Astra...   Jul 15 2009, 07:50 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jul 15 2009, 03:50 PM)...   Jul 15 2009, 09:39 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Actually, that fact is based on the rules of magic...   Jul 15 2009, 07:58 AM
- - Machiavelli   Even i as an absolutely PG accept this. Follow me....   Jul 15 2009, 09:23 AM
- - Doc Byte   QUOTE (McAllister @ Jul 15 2009, 07:44 AM...   Jul 15 2009, 01:36 PM
- - Stahlseele   If that really worked you would have a more or les...   Jul 15 2009, 01:46 PM
- - Doc Byte   Just one word: P.o.w.e.r.g.a.m.i.n.g(tm)   Jul 15 2009, 01:58 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (Doc Byte @ Jul 15 2009, 03:58 PM) ...   Jul 15 2009, 03:09 PM
- - McAllister   Thank you all for your contributions. The "c...   Jul 15 2009, 02:00 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (McAllister @ Jul 15 2009, 10:00 AM...   Jul 15 2009, 04:31 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 15 2009, 06:31 PM) ...   Jul 15 2009, 05:09 PM
- - DireRadiant   If it doesn't hamper you, it is not a Negative...   Jul 15 2009, 04:03 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Have you seen some of the "positive" Qua...   Jul 15 2009, 04:30 PM
- - Adarael   I would welcome any PC blood mage into my party. A...   Jul 15 2009, 07:36 PM
|- - thearistocrat   QUOTE (Adarael @ Jul 15 2009, 07:36 PM) I...   Jul 15 2009, 07:50 PM
- - Adarael   Man, what? My .3 essence Samurai could sucker-punc...   Jul 15 2009, 07:54 PM
- - Stahlseele   OK, that would be one way of looking at it . . the...   Jul 15 2009, 09:08 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 15 2009, 05:08 PM...   Jul 16 2009, 04:09 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 16 2009, 11:09 AM) ...   Jul 16 2009, 05:23 PM
|- - Meatbag   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 16 2009, 05:23 PM) Th...   Jul 16 2009, 11:47 PM
- - Stahlseele   I think the Psionics can only do some limited conj...   Jul 16 2009, 04:46 PM
- - Draco18s   Street Magic: QUOTE These days, psionics is consid...   Jul 16 2009, 05:08 PM
- - phantom   psionics is covered more in digital grimoire. Basi...   Jul 16 2009, 05:17 PM
- - Machiavelli   Yeah, "Jessy´s Magic"....good point. Ne...   Jul 17 2009, 05:50 AM
- - Stahlseele   They are? Where?   Jul 17 2009, 07:15 AM
- - KCKitsune   I think that they should have left out the whole P...   Jul 17 2009, 07:25 AM
- - AngelisStorm   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jul 17 2009, 12:50 A...   Jul 17 2009, 01:36 PM
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|- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (AngelisStorm @ Jul 17 2009, 02:36 ...   Jul 17 2009, 03:01 PM
- - Draco18s   It'd be kinda cheesy. Looking to take on X Co...   Jul 17 2009, 04:40 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 17 2009, 11:40 AM) ...   Jul 17 2009, 04:49 PM
- - Draco18s   After poking my GM he says that you could aspect a...   Jul 17 2009, 04:54 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 17 2009, 11:54 AM) ...   Jul 17 2009, 05:10 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 17 2009, 01:10 PM) Yo...   Jul 17 2009, 07:30 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 17 2009, 01:30 PM) ...   Jul 18 2009, 06:01 AM
- - Stahlseele   Hmm . . Astral Hazing is a flaw yes? And Fomori ge...   Jul 17 2009, 05:25 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 17 2009, 12:25 PM...   Jul 17 2009, 06:07 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 17 2009, 09:07 PM) I ...   Jul 17 2009, 06:10 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   In fact, Astral Hazing makes the character a domai...   Jul 18 2009, 08:44 AM
- - Umbra   Looking again at the description of Astral Hazing ...   Jul 18 2009, 10:55 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Umbra @ Jul 18 2009, 05:55 AM) Loo...   Jul 18 2009, 02:32 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Umbra @ Jul 18 2009, 05:55 AM) Aug...   Jul 18 2009, 03:00 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 18 2009, 11:00 AM) So...   Jul 18 2009, 03:01 PM
||- - Neraph   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 18 2009, 10:01 AM) ...   Jul 18 2009, 03:05 PM
|- - Umbra   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 18 2009, 09:00 AM) Ac...   Jul 18 2009, 07:31 PM
- - Draco18s   ...wasn't that my original point?   Jul 18 2009, 02:43 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 18 2009, 09:43 AM) ...   Jul 18 2009, 02:54 PM
- - Falconer   Quite frankly that whole section is an utter mess....   Jul 18 2009, 03:34 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 18 2009, 10:34 AM) ...   Jul 18 2009, 03:40 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 18 2009, 09:40 AM) Th...   Jul 18 2009, 04:12 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 18 2009, 11:34 AM) ...   Jul 18 2009, 04:20 PM
- - Falconer   Hence why I said it'd require some serious fen...   Jul 18 2009, 04:21 PM
- - Neraph   Ok, so we have 2 cases of people saying "no b...   Jul 18 2009, 04:26 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 18 2009, 12:26 PM) Ok...   Jul 18 2009, 04:49 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 18 2009, 11:49 AM) ...   Jul 18 2009, 04:58 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 18 2009, 12:58 PM) Be...   Jul 18 2009, 05:32 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 18 2009, 11:32 AM) ...   Jul 18 2009, 05:40 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 18 2009, 01:40 PM) If...   Jul 18 2009, 06:02 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 18 2009, 01:02 PM) ...   Jul 18 2009, 06:15 PM
|- - thearistocrat   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 18 2009, 06:02 PM) ...   Jul 18 2009, 06:15 PM
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|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 18 2009, 09:25 PM) ...   Jul 18 2009, 07:07 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   I must be missing something here... Negative Quali...   Jul 18 2009, 06:35 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 18 2009, 02...   Jul 18 2009, 06:37 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 18 2009, 12:37 PM) ...   Jul 18 2009, 06:39 PM
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||- - Mäx   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 18 2009, 10:07 PM) ...   Jul 18 2009, 07:15 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 19 2009, 02...   Jul 19 2009, 12:59 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 18 2009, 12...   Jul 19 2009, 04:29 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 19 2009, 12:29 AM) No...   Jul 19 2009, 04:46 AM
||- - Neraph   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 18 2009, 10:46 PM) ...   Jul 19 2009, 04:51 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 18 2009, 10:29 PM) Se...   Jul 23 2009, 04:29 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 22 2009, 10:29 PM) My...   Jul 23 2009, 01:49 PM
|- - Neraph   Yeah, I remembered the 5 karma from joining the gr...   Jul 23 2009, 03:29 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 23 2009, 08:29 AM) Ye...   Jul 23 2009, 08:43 PM
- - McAllister   I'm not sure what to think. The negative qual...   Jul 19 2009, 01:30 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (McAllister @ Jul 19 2009, 09:30 AM...   Jul 19 2009, 01:44 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (toturi @ Jul 18 2009, 09:44 PM) Pe...   Jul 19 2009, 03:22 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 19 2009, 11:22 AM) ...   Jul 19 2009, 03:52 AM
- - dirkformica   /Hijack What happens when a Magician with Astral H...   Jul 19 2009, 03:31 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (dirkformica @ Jul 18 2009, 11:31 P...   Jul 19 2009, 03:33 AM
- - Stahlseele   You need to factor in the Karma to join a Group fi...   Jul 23 2009, 02:01 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 23 2009, 08:01 AM...   Jul 23 2009, 02:09 PM
- - Stahlseele   's okay, most people do.   Jul 23 2009, 02:10 PM
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