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So I was thinking...

Maybe it's me, but military/ex-military backgrounds seem very common for certain kinds of campaigns.

Now, that's not a bad thing. Sometimes they make sense.

But I'm a very details-focused GM. I try to prevent errors like someone claiming military experience but missing critical military skills.
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So, after talking with MusicMan last night and then sleeping, I came up with an idea.

Skill sets to represent military training.
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Now here's my problem: I know how I want to divide things up, but no idea what skills to put in each "set".

Thus I ask for help. If this were to be suitably developed, I'd be happy to consider submitting it to the Dumpshock magazine.

For simplicity, I'm considering SR4, canon 2072. For additional simplicity, I'm going to consider national militaries only.

The idea is that if a character were -just- coming out of chargen after these points, what skills would they have?
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How I'm dividing things:

First, by country. Every country runs their military training differently. I see the UCAS and CAS being so alike as to make separating them not worth it for our purposes, but otherwise that holds.

Next, by service: Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, whatever. Every service tends to do things differently too.

Finally: Officer or Enlisted. Officers get different training than enlisted folks.
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Absolutely common stuff:

To join the military, you must have the SINner (standard) quality, usually of the nation whose forces you're joining.
You generally may not have physical flaws such as reduced sense, or mental disorders. They may be gained in service, but you aren't likely to be allowed to join with them.

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Now onto the fun stuff:

I'll list a setting, you lay out attribute/skill stuff you think would be gained.

UCAS/CAS, Army, Enlisted Basic Combat Training

UCAS/CAS, Army, Enlisted Specialty Schools

UCAS/CAS, Navy, Enlisted Recruit Training

UCAS/CAS, Navy, Enlisted Specialty Schools

Repeat for Marine Corps and Air Force.

UCAS/CAS, Army, Officer training (ROTC)

UCAS/CAS, Army, Officer training (Service Academy)

UCAS/CAS, Army, Officer training (OCS)

UCAS/CAS, Navy, Officer training (ROTC)

UCAS/CAS, Navy, Officer training (Service Academy)

UCAS/CAS, Navy, Officer training (OCS)

Repeat for Marine Corps and Air Force.
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Things I have absolutely no idea how to handle:

Magic-types. Spellslingers and physads. Would they even go through the same training as everybody else? Would they all be officers?

Hackers and technomancers. Again, the same questions arise as with magic-types, especially for TMs.
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- Penta   Military Core Curriculum   Sep 22 2009, 03:20 PM
- - fistandantilus4.0   A couple of skills that may not be immediately obv...   Sep 22 2009, 03:32 PM
|- - Hagga   QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Sep 22 2009, 04...   Sep 24 2009, 01:09 AM
- - Warlordtheft   And all this training would add up to a 1 or a 2. ...   Sep 22 2009, 03:40 PM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Sep 22 2009, 11:40 ...   Sep 22 2009, 03:56 PM
||- - kzt   QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 22 2009, 09:56 ...   Sep 23 2009, 03:35 AM
||- - cndblank   QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 22 2009, 10:56 ...   Sep 23 2009, 04:17 AM
|||- - MusicMan   QUOTE (cndblank @ Sep 22 2009, 10:17 PM) ...   Sep 23 2009, 06:18 AM
||- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 22 2009, 10:56 ...   Sep 23 2009, 02:40 PM
||- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Sep 23 2009, 10:40 ...   Sep 23 2009, 03:35 PM
|||- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 23 2009, 10:35 ...   Sep 23 2009, 05:16 PM
|||- - MusicMan   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Sep 23 2009, 11:16 ...   Sep 23 2009, 06:55 PM
|||- - kzt   QUOTE (MusicMan @ Sep 23 2009, 12:55 PM) ...   Sep 23 2009, 09:11 PM
|||- - MusicMan   QUOTE (kzt @ Sep 23 2009, 03:11 PM) For s...   Sep 24 2009, 04:11 AM
||- - kzt   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Sep 23 2009, 08:40 ...   Sep 23 2009, 05:14 PM
|||- - PBI   QUOTE (kzt @ Sep 23 2009, 02:14 PM) Yup. ...   Sep 24 2009, 10:48 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Sep 23 2009, 08:40 ...   Sep 24 2009, 12:13 AM
||- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 23 2009, 07...   Sep 24 2009, 03:52 AM
||- - Chrome Tiger   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Sep 23 2009, 11:52 ...   Sep 24 2009, 10:34 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Sep 22 2009, 11:40 ...   Sep 22 2009, 05:17 PM
||- - MusicMan   QUOTE (Karoline @ Sep 22 2009, 12:17 PM) ...   Sep 22 2009, 07:45 PM
||- - DWC   Actually, the US Army and US Marine Corps have spe...   Sep 22 2009, 07:51 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (DWC @ Sep 22 2009, 12:51 PM) Actua...   Sep 23 2009, 01:03 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Sep 22 2009, 08:40 ...   Sep 23 2009, 12:59 AM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 22 2009, 08...   Sep 24 2009, 12:21 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Critias @ Sep 23 2009, 06:21 PM) D...   Sep 24 2009, 12:22 AM
- - fistandantilus4.0   Agreed. Master-at-Arms (Navy MP) are trained speci...   Sep 22 2009, 04:05 PM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Sep 22 2009, 12...   Sep 22 2009, 05:16 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Sep 22 2009, 01...   Sep 22 2009, 07:00 PM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Sep 22 2009, 03...   Sep 22 2009, 07:05 PM
- - Penta   The Navy was included mostly for completeness - bu...   Sep 22 2009, 04:13 PM
- - fistandantilus4.0   I know we've got plenty of enlisted around her...   Sep 22 2009, 04:52 PM
- - Apathy   I tried to stat this out back in SR3, and came up ...   Sep 22 2009, 04:58 PM
- - PBI   I think any ex-mil character should get First Aid ...   Sep 22 2009, 05:33 PM
- - Chrysalis   Remembering back: TA - Phase 1. 1. In-unit fou...   Sep 22 2009, 06:53 PM
- - Stahlseele   *waits for the inevitable Kerenshara-Input*   Sep 22 2009, 06:58 PM
- - Chrysalis   Depends on what kind of character you want to play...   Sep 22 2009, 07:52 PM
- - rob   Wow. Yall think infantry kids know a lot. Right ...   Sep 22 2009, 10:25 PM
- - Omenowl   SR4 assumes characters have basic skills to functi...   Sep 23 2009, 03:06 AM
- - toturi   It depends on which military you are talking about...   Sep 23 2009, 03:34 AM
- - Chance359   A few years ago I went through Air Force basic tra...   Sep 23 2009, 03:55 AM
- - Chrome Tiger   Navy boot camp, we had rudimentary instruction in ...   Sep 23 2009, 04:24 AM
- - Twilights_Herald   More of a comment on the 2070s than the modern mil...   Sep 23 2009, 07:45 AM
- - d1ng0d0g   I'm going to butt in here with a bit of backgr...   Sep 23 2009, 09:14 AM
|- - Chrome Tiger   QUOTE (d1ng0d0g @ Sep 23 2009, 05:14 AM) ...   Sep 23 2009, 11:38 AM
- - Penta   I'm not so sure. I've always seen it like ...   Sep 23 2009, 01:54 PM
- - fistandantilus4.0   I agree with rob abd Chrome that basic training is...   Sep 23 2009, 04:59 PM
|- - ravensoracle   QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Sep 23 2009, 10...   Sep 23 2009, 05:32 PM
- - toturi   From the perspective of a conscript army, even one...   Sep 24 2009, 03:10 AM


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