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> Cyberlimbs vs. Essence Cost, Should lots of Cyber reduce the essence cost of some larger 'Wares
Phoenix (A-Team)
post Oct 16 2009, 06:57 AM
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3rd Edition said yes. Some products were reduced in essence cost when they had less meat body to implant into. Some argue that instead of essence, some cyberware should cost Capacity/Essence instead of flat Essence. Items like Orthoskin, Bonelacing, Wired Reflexes and the like.

My opinion:

Bonelacing; if you've replaced most of your bones with metal, then what good is wrapping them in more metal going to do? Essentially that would be like adding armor into your cyberlimb's capacity, as far as I'm concerned.

Orthoskin, Dermal Plating and the like; I suppose it'd work as an organic (or not-so organic) layer above your metal innards. I think, in fact, that there should be advanced kinds of Bioware available that better disguise your cyberlimbs, like realistic skin layered over the metal. But it shouldn't cost that much essence if it's actually adding meat to you (or layering over metal). If anything, some of the layered skins and plating should detract from your charisma for making you scarier instead of just chromed. My two-nuyen's worth on that one.

Wired Reflexes; This one's tricky, in my way of thinking. Using "neural boosters and adrenaline stimulators throughout the body" is what they say in their description. To me that means that the brain is enhanced to interpret and react to signals relayed along streamlined paths throughout the body. If you're cybered, then this should be as simple as amping up the reaction time within your limbs. Maybe it should cost a couple of Capacity slots per limb for the added enhancements. But it sounds like the "invasive" cybering of this device is meant to be spread throughout the body. And if the body is 70% metal, then what does this mean for your essence cost? Hmm...

Move-by-Wire; putting the body in a constant state of twitch. Well, as much as Wired Reflexes, I believe this system relies on muscle control and networking nerves throughout the entire body. And if most of your limbs are cybered, then it should be a matter of tweaking the hardware in your limbs to respond faster and more accurately, or adding enhanced equipment to fill your Capacity so that they can do that.

Skillwires; well... shouldn't it be the cost of a datajack only? At this point you're limbs are all already cybered, so they should be able to slave themselves to a chip with preprogrammed skills if you so desired. Doesn't sound like you need to lace new 'wares throughout your limbs to tell them what to do if the controls are already there and so easily diverted to a comlink with a skill-program in it, or a datajack with a skill chip jacked into it.


In short; powers that be... and those that wish to debate, what do you think about clarifying the rules regarding essence cost of heavy cyberwares once the body has had multiple limbs replaced with cyberlimbs?
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- Phoenix (A-Team)   Cyberlimbs vs. Essence Cost   Oct 16 2009, 06:57 AM
- - Ravor   I suppose it depends on how much of the cyber is i...   Oct 16 2009, 07:14 AM
- - Stahlseele   Those Rules were scrapped in the Transition from S...   Oct 16 2009, 12:20 PM
- - Thanee   I don't see Essence cost as how much of your b...   Oct 16 2009, 01:00 PM
- - Stahlseele   Essence loss was never really explained. Only that...   Oct 16 2009, 01:17 PM
- - Chance359   There was a set of house rules back in the day (SR...   Oct 16 2009, 08:17 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (Chance359 @ Oct 16 2009, 10:17 PM)...   Oct 16 2009, 09:31 PM
- - Jaid   darn, if only someone had devised some kind of rul...   Oct 16 2009, 08:59 PM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Jaid @ Oct 16 2009, 04:59 PM) darn...   Oct 17 2009, 09:30 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Oct 17 2009, 04:30 AM)...   Oct 19 2009, 01:31 AM
- - Marwynn   You sir owe me a new Sarcasm Detector.   Oct 16 2009, 09:09 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Marwynn @ Oct 16 2009, 05:09 PM) Y...   Oct 17 2009, 03:47 AM
- - Phoenix (A-Team)   Exactly. Though I do agree that Cyber Suites are ...   Oct 17 2009, 05:02 PM
- - Falconer   Disagree strongly w/ reduced essence after limbs. ...   Oct 18 2009, 04:52 AM
|- - OneTrikPony   QUOTE (Falconer @ Oct 18 2009, 12:52 AM) ...   Oct 18 2009, 06:31 PM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (OneTrikPony @ Oct 18 2009, 11:31 A...   Oct 19 2009, 12:13 PM
- - Falconer   You've completely failed to get my counterpoin...   Oct 18 2009, 07:07 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (Falconer @ Oct 18 2009, 04:07 PM) ...   Oct 20 2009, 05:09 PM
- - Stahlseele   actually, that was in the rules too. if you had m...   Oct 19 2009, 01:11 PM
- - Trench   Making all the systems work together effectively f...   Oct 20 2009, 05:14 AM
- - Karoline   Well, you do get this to some extent already. It ...   Oct 20 2009, 05:27 PM
- - Phoenix (A-Team)   Hmm... this discussion isn't really going the ...   Oct 21 2009, 08:45 AM
- - Stahlseele   Try and look up the SR3 rules for this. Then adapt...   Oct 21 2009, 10:05 AM
- - Ravor   Personally I think I'd ask myself whether or n...   Oct 21 2009, 03:18 PM


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