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Trying to figure out how magic attacks work, and am wondering if I'm missing a step. SR4a pp. 183-184 stat that the attack is an opposed roll between the casters Spellcasting+Magic vs. the defender's Body or Will (as appropriate). Net successes are then added to the base damage. The question, though, is: does the defender then get to roll body or will again to "soak" the damage, like the victim of a gun shot gets to roll armor+body after the to-hit roll, or is the damage just applied directly.

So if I had a spell with base damage 5S, and the caster got one net success, the DV would be 6S. Does the defender just take six boxes of stun damage, or does he now get to roll Will to resist some of it?

Thanks.
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- jgalak   Magic attacks   Feb 25 2010, 10:46 PM
- - Draco18s   Nope. One roll.   Feb 25 2010, 11:59 PM
- - Caadium   And, at least as I understand it, its rolled as an...   Feb 26 2010, 12:45 AM
- - Draco18s   Basically because the caster has to deal with drai...   Feb 26 2010, 12:48 AM
- - Glyph   Plus, there is also counterspelling, and the targe...   Feb 26 2010, 03:26 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   Yup, no damage resistance test. Use stun spells a...   Feb 26 2010, 03:31 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Feb 25 2010, 10...   Feb 27 2010, 10:43 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Karoline @ Feb 27 2010, 03:43 PM) ...   Feb 27 2010, 11:01 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Feb 27 2010, 06:01 PM)...   Feb 27 2010, 11:51 PM
||- - Glyph   QUOTE (Karoline @ Feb 27 2010, 03:51 PM) ...   Feb 28 2010, 12:36 AM
||- - kzt   QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 27 2010, 05:36 PM) But...   Feb 28 2010, 01:39 AM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (kzt @ Feb 27 2010, 08:39 PM) How m...   Feb 28 2010, 02:06 AM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Karoline @ Feb 27 2010, 09:06 PM) ...   Feb 28 2010, 03:19 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Feb 27 2010, 06:01 PM)...   Feb 28 2010, 06:36 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Feb 28 2010, 11...   Feb 28 2010, 08:17 PM
||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 28 2010, 04...   Feb 28 2010, 11:40 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Feb 28 2010, 04...   Mar 1 2010, 03:41 AM
|- - Starmage21   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Feb 28 2010, 01...   Feb 28 2010, 09:15 PM
- - Brol_The_Mighty   What about Lizard and Spoc?   Feb 28 2010, 03:35 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Brol_The_Mighty @ Feb 27 2010, 10...   Feb 28 2010, 03:49 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 27 2010, 08:49 PM) ...   Feb 28 2010, 03:51 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 28 2010, 10...   Feb 28 2010, 03:57 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 28 2010, 08:57 AM) ...   Feb 28 2010, 04:00 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 28 2010, 11...   Feb 28 2010, 04:16 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 28 2010, 09:16 AM) ...   Feb 28 2010, 04:25 PM
- - Glyph   Personally, I think standard spellcasting is fairl...   Feb 28 2010, 08:44 PM
- - Glyph   Shadowrun is a game of glass cannons, and in that ...   Feb 28 2010, 09:57 PM
|- - Cheops   QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 28 2010, 10:57 PM) Whi...   Mar 1 2010, 06:07 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Cheops @ Mar 1 2010, 02:07 PM) Not...   Mar 1 2010, 06:56 PM
||- - Cheops   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Mar 1 2010, 07...   Mar 1 2010, 07:09 PM
|- - darthmord   QUOTE (Cheops @ Mar 1 2010, 01:07 PM) Not...   Mar 1 2010, 08:25 PM
- - Draco18s   There's also the Magic Resistance quality now ...   Feb 28 2010, 10:17 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 28 2010, 03:17 PM) ...   Feb 28 2010, 10:42 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (kzt @ Feb 28 2010, 05:42 PM) It wa...   Feb 28 2010, 11:12 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (kzt @ Feb 28 2010, 05:42 PM) It wa...   Feb 28 2010, 11:22 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Karoline @ Feb 28 2010, 06:22 PM) ...   Feb 28 2010, 11:24 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 28 2010, 04:24 PM) ...   Mar 1 2010, 03:41 AM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 28 2010, 10...   Mar 1 2010, 03:48 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 28 2010, 08:48 PM) ...   Mar 1 2010, 03:51 AM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 28 2010, 10...   Mar 1 2010, 03:59 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 28 2010, 08:59 PM) ...   Mar 1 2010, 04:00 AM
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|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Karoline @ Feb 28 2010, 03:22 PM) ...   Feb 28 2010, 11:48 PM
- - Karoline   Oh, it's only 5 BP? That does make it a fair ...   Mar 1 2010, 12:05 AM
- - Glyph   Astral hazing really stands out astrally, and migh...   Mar 1 2010, 01:19 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 28 2010, 08:19 PM) Ast...   Mar 1 2010, 01:44 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Karoline @ Feb 28 2010, 08:44 PM) ...   Mar 1 2010, 03:36 AM
|- - cndblank   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 28 2010, 09:36 PM) ...   Mar 1 2010, 07:12 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (cndblank @ Mar 1 2010, 02:12 PM) M...   Mar 1 2010, 07:57 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 1 2010, 04:57 PM) A...   Mar 1 2010, 10:32 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 1 2010, 02:57 PM) A...   Mar 1 2010, 10:35 PM
||- - Cheops   QUOTE (Critias @ Mar 1 2010, 11:35 PM) It...   Mar 1 2010, 11:31 PM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (Critias @ Mar 1 2010, 05:35 PM) It...   Mar 1 2010, 11:59 PM
|||- - toturi   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 2 2010, 07:59 AM) A...   Mar 2 2010, 01:55 AM
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|||- - W@geMage   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 3 2010, 08:31 AM) S...   Mar 3 2010, 02:13 PM
||||- - Karoline   QUOTE (W@geMage @ Mar 3 2010, 09:13 AM) a...   Mar 3 2010, 02:29 PM
||||- - W@geMage   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 3 2010, 09:29 AM) W...   Mar 3 2010, 03:18 PM
||||- - Karoline   QUOTE (W@geMage @ Mar 3 2010, 10:18 AM) B...   Mar 3 2010, 03:37 PM
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|||||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (W@geMage @ Mar 3 2010, 10:56 AM) S...   Mar 3 2010, 04:18 PM
||||- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (W@geMage @ Mar 3 2010, 12:18 PM) B...   Mar 3 2010, 03:38 PM
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|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 3 2010, 06:31 AM) W...   Mar 4 2010, 04:19 AM
||- - cndblank   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 1 2010, 02:57 PM) * Agreed. ...   Mar 2 2010, 02:34 AM
||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Critias @ Mar 1 2010, 06:35 PM) It...   Mar 2 2010, 03:58 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 1 2010, 12:57 PM) A...   Mar 2 2010, 12:33 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (kzt @ Mar 1 2010, 07:33 PM) I don...   Mar 2 2010, 12:41 AM
|- - cndblank   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 1 2010, 06:41 PM) I...   Mar 2 2010, 01:45 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (cndblank @ Mar 1 2010, 06:45 PM) A...   Mar 2 2010, 01:59 AM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 1 2010, 08...   Mar 2 2010, 03:22 AM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (cndblank @ Mar 1 2010, 07:45 PM) A...   Mar 2 2010, 04:10 AM
- - Axl   I'm particularly unhappy with the astral hazin...   Mar 1 2010, 08:41 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Axl @ Mar 1 2010, 03:41 AM) I...   Mar 1 2010, 11:37 AM
- - Draco18s   It falls into a narrow category of qualities for S...   Mar 1 2010, 03:37 PM
- - Glyph   I still think it was easier to get one-shot kills ...   Mar 2 2010, 02:58 AM
|- - Cheops   QUOTE (Glyph @ Mar 2 2010, 03:58 AM) I st...   Mar 2 2010, 02:24 PM
|- - Caadium   QUOTE (Cheops @ Mar 2 2010, 06:24 AM) Shi...   Mar 2 2010, 06:16 PM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (Caadium @ Mar 2 2010, 01:16 PM) I ...   Mar 2 2010, 07:35 PM
||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 2 2010, 02:35 PM) I...   Mar 2 2010, 07:56 PM
|||- - Caadium   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Mar 2 2010, 11...   Mar 2 2010, 08:14 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 2 2010, 12:35 PM) I...   Mar 3 2010, 02:51 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Cheops @ Mar 2 2010, 06:24 AM) You...   Mar 3 2010, 03:47 AM
|- - Cheops   QUOTE (Glyph @ Mar 3 2010, 04:47 AM) Not ...   Mar 3 2010, 02:09 PM
- - tagz   It is a bit sad to see how unbalanced having magic...   Mar 3 2010, 01:44 AM
- - Karoline   The extra point of essence is certainly helpful, b...   Mar 3 2010, 01:56 AM
- - Ghremdal   Would a houserule that hits (not net hits) add to ...   Mar 3 2010, 01:57 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Ghremdal @ Mar 2 2010, 08:57 PM) W...   Mar 3 2010, 02:05 AM
- - The Monk   We started an interesting House Rule at our table:...   Mar 3 2010, 03:55 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (The Monk @ Mar 2 2010, 10:55 PM) W...   Mar 3 2010, 04:03 AM
- - The Monk   Yes it does work even if the character is unconsci...   Mar 3 2010, 04:33 AM
- - Karoline   Good points, though invisible enemies are fairly r...   Mar 3 2010, 04:24 PM
- - W@geMage   I was actually just talking about mundane enemies ...   Mar 3 2010, 04:42 PM
- - Apathy   IMO each member of a team should have opportunitie...   Mar 3 2010, 06:48 PM


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