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What damage code do you think would be appropriate for flintlock pistols and rifles?
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- Reaver   Flintlocks   Feb 10 2004, 06:08 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Humm. The most powerful muzzleloading rifles might...   Feb 10 2004, 06:22 PM
- - Reaver   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Humm. The most powerfu...   Feb 10 2004, 06:26 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   I thought as much, which is why I also invested a ...   Feb 10 2004, 06:29 PM
- - Reaver   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) I thought as much, whi...   Feb 10 2004, 06:32 PM
- - Jason Farlander   Applying my lack of any real knowledge on the subj...   Feb 10 2004, 06:37 PM
- - nezumi   The power would not even be close to on par with o...   Feb 10 2004, 06:39 PM
- - GunnerJ   The ranges of a musket would be crap. On par with ...   Feb 10 2004, 06:47 PM
- - Reaver   QUOTE (Jason Farlander) Applying my lack of any re...   Feb 10 2004, 06:48 PM
- - Hero   Besides, it would also depend on the type of shot ...   Feb 10 2004, 06:52 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Jason Farlander)Shouldnt you be able to var...   Feb 10 2004, 06:58 PM
- - Tom Collins   As others have stated, the real problem with many ...   Feb 10 2004, 07:08 PM
- - Req   QUOTE (Tom Collins @ Feb 10 2004, 11:08 AM) A...   Feb 10 2004, 07:22 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   At this point, it would be nice to know whether Re...   Feb 10 2004, 07:31 PM
- - Reaver   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) At this point, it woul...   Feb 10 2004, 07:34 PM
- - Reaver   QUOTE (Req) QUOTE (Tom Collins @ Feb 10 2004,...   Feb 10 2004, 07:36 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Then something like 4M and 5S might indeed be more...   Feb 10 2004, 07:46 PM
- - Reaver   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Then something like 4M...   Feb 10 2004, 07:50 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Glad to help. I'm grateful for every excuse to...   Feb 10 2004, 07:59 PM
- - Jason Farlander   QUOTE (Req) QUOTE (Tom Collins @ Feb 10 2004,...   Feb 10 2004, 08:05 PM
- - Tom Collins   ok, here's the way it works. A bullet fired f...   Feb 10 2004, 08:09 PM
- - Req   QUOTE (Tom Collins) ok, here's the way it work...   Feb 10 2004, 08:18 PM
- - boodah   reaver, why do i not want to game all of a sudden?...   Feb 10 2004, 08:24 PM
- - Nikoli   QUOTE I'm sure the infection factor was effect...   Feb 10 2004, 08:28 PM
- - Jason Farlander   Attaining a temperature of 300C will kill any bact...   Feb 10 2004, 08:29 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) QUOTE (nezumi)The powe...   Feb 10 2004, 08:33 PM
- - boodah   QUOTE (nezumi) A black powder rifle might be compa...   Feb 10 2004, 08:41 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (nezumi)A black powder rifle might be compar...   Feb 10 2004, 08:46 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (boodah)50 caliber ball made of soft lead. a...   Feb 10 2004, 08:49 PM
- - Lindt   Game terms IMO. Treat as gel rounds, cept then do...   Feb 10 2004, 08:58 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Then be sure to give that knockdown bonus of gel r...   Feb 10 2004, 09:04 PM
- - Req   QUOTE (Jason Farlander) Attaining a temperature of...   Feb 10 2004, 09:46 PM
- - danbot37   I used to hunt with a black powder rifle. It was ...   Feb 10 2004, 09:48 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (danbot37)Makes quite an exit wound on a wat...   Feb 10 2004, 10:08 PM
- - lodestar   Just as a side note the Street Sweeper as presente...   Feb 10 2004, 11:21 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Do gel rounds go again...   Feb 11 2004, 01:02 AM
- - Diesel   That's dumb.   Feb 11 2004, 01:32 AM
- - Fortune   Why?   Feb 11 2004, 02:06 AM
- - Shanshu Freeman   QUOTE (Tom Collins) Today's weapons fire round...   Feb 11 2004, 04:06 AM
- - boodah   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) If the momentum of the...   Feb 11 2004, 01:49 PM
- - Reaver   QUOTE (boodah) QUOTE (Austere Emancipator @ F...   Feb 11 2004, 02:19 PM
- - Birdy   Some data: a) There is a difference between rifle...   Feb 11 2004, 02:39 PM
- - nezumi   The biggest change will be reloading time, as was ...   Feb 11 2004, 02:41 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Reaver)As for ranges, I think I'll use ...   Feb 11 2004, 02:44 PM
- - danbot37   I just coulda sworn at a visit to Shiloh National...   Feb 12 2004, 01:47 AM
- - CrimsonBaron   Well it really depended on the type of black powde...   Feb 12 2004, 04:23 AM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)So I'd still say pa...   Feb 12 2004, 06:18 AM
- - mfb   give pistols 6M, muskets 6S, and add a +1 or +2 mo...   Feb 12 2004, 07:57 AM
- - crazyivans   I have a question... Why would you Want to use a ...   Feb 12 2004, 03:03 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (crazyivans)Why would you Want to use a Muzz...   Feb 12 2004, 03:05 PM
- - Reaver   QUOTE (crazyivans) I have a question... Why would...   Feb 12 2004, 03:20 PM
- - boodah   QUOTE (Reaver) I don't want to give a lot of d...   Feb 12 2004, 06:10 PM
- - Reaver   QUOTE (boodah) QUOTE (Reaver @ Feb 12 2004, 1...   Feb 12 2004, 06:40 PM
- - Crusher Bob   Best to nail down your time period a bit more exac...   Feb 13 2004, 05:36 AM
- - boodah   QUOTE (Reaver) QUOTE (boodah @ Feb 12 2004, 1...   Feb 13 2004, 12:58 PM
- - Fahr   A very well trained and highly experienced Sharpsh...   Feb 13 2004, 10:21 PM
- - danbot37   Thank you, I knew I wasn't crazy.   Feb 13 2004, 10:58 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   I guess the weight and tractability (doesn't s...   Feb 13 2004, 11:05 PM
- - lodestar   QUOTE (Raygun) QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)So I...   Feb 14 2004, 01:38 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (lodestar)That would depend on whether the s...   Feb 14 2004, 01:54 AM
- - REM   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) QUOTE (lodestar) And i...   Feb 14 2004, 02:24 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (REM)And that bullet has a rather significan...   Feb 14 2004, 02:36 AM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (danbot)Thank you, I knew I wasn't crazy...   Feb 14 2004, 09:52 PM
- - lodestar   The mention of the bone shards comes from A Histor...   Feb 14 2004, 11:13 PM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (lodestar)While the force of impact of most ...   Feb 15 2004, 01:55 AM
- - Crusher Bob   Being shot is highly likely to change the tension ...   Feb 15 2004, 03:29 AM
- - lodestar   QUOTE Recoil from a shotgun, even with heavy slugs...   Feb 15 2004, 05:36 AM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (lodestar)Which is my point exactly. Who has...   Feb 16 2004, 03:56 AM
- - Reaver   QUOTE (lodestar) QUOTE Recoil from a shotgun, even...   Feb 16 2004, 04:50 PM
- - lodestar   Like I said not the most scientific meathods were ...   Feb 16 2004, 06:54 PM
- - Reaver   QUOTE (lodestar) Like I said not the most scientif...   Feb 16 2004, 07:03 PM
- - Req   In other news - AE - your new sig RULES. Mad prop...   Feb 17 2004, 05:49 PM
- - lodestar   With further thought to the matter... You're ...   Feb 18 2004, 01:01 AM
- - HolyTrinity   Here we go: 1411: Earliest illustrations of a si...   Feb 18 2004, 06:07 AM
- - mfb   right, lodestar, but with your hands, you're a...   Feb 18 2004, 06:23 AM
- - gknoy   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) QUOTE Some civil war s...   Feb 18 2004, 10:45 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (gknoy)Remember that a lot of the pistols ma...   Feb 18 2004, 02:48 PM
- - Fahr   http://www.cva.com/articles/fn.htm modern replica...   Feb 18 2004, 04:06 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   I checked the stats of modern muzzleloaders for th...   Feb 18 2004, 04:34 PM
- - Fahr   I was only able to find a quote from a 1742 book o...   Feb 18 2004, 04:55 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Couldn't find an online tool for calculating t...   Feb 18 2004, 05:01 PM
- - mcb   A 17th century Flintlock would have most likely be...   Feb 18 2004, 07:37 PM
- - Fahr   doh. stupid 17th century cover 1600-1699.... my b...   Feb 18 2004, 07:46 PM
- - Crusher Bob   You'll get 'modest' deformation on mos...   Feb 19 2004, 01:49 AM
- - Siege   QUOTE (Crusher Bob) You'll get 'modest...   Feb 19 2004, 02:36 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Crusher Bob)No more that twice the diameter...   Feb 19 2004, 02:54 PM
- - boodah   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) I doubt a full lead b...   Feb 19 2004, 04:05 PM
- - mcb   Lead balls and lead conical bullets expand well at...   Feb 19 2004, 04:16 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (boodah)modern bullets use pure lead with co...   Feb 19 2004, 04:22 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (mcb)A round ball with flatten out like a pa...   Feb 19 2004, 04:26 PM
- - Fahr   Bullet expansion in the barrel was one of the ways...   Feb 19 2004, 04:34 PM
- - nezumi   I'd agree with you on old rifles, that 40 roun...   Feb 19 2004, 05:38 PM
- - Crusher Bob   This was with the paper cartridge iirc, the time p...   Feb 20 2004, 01:01 AM
- - otomik   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)The way SR has divided ...   Feb 20 2004, 05:18 AM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (otomik)hey raygun check this out http://www...   Feb 20 2004, 07:50 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (otomik)that might suite you just fine if yo...   Feb 20 2004, 11:46 AM
- - mcb   The Brown Bess is proble better compared to a ligh...   Feb 20 2004, 02:18 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   You're probably right. I was looking at shot i...   Feb 20 2004, 02:21 PM
- - mcb   Sure that seems pretty good. As for other flintlo...   Feb 20 2004, 02:52 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (mcb)So to make a crude approximation a 50 c...   Feb 20 2004, 03:08 PM


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