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makari
post Mar 10 2010, 03:14 AM
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I've seen many people posting on this forum about it being a must have for matrix chars...

but 1.5 ess cost and 75000 for a simple +2 skill pool, compared to most every other skill enhancer, it seems like the absolute least bang for your buck...



am I missing something? is my book a typo and it's suppose to be .15 instead of 1.5 ess? I've thought this a couple times, but I'm not sure...

help me out.
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- makari   is encephalon really worthwhile?   Mar 10 2010, 03:14 AM
- - pbangarth   Well, the 1.5 Essence cost version applies the +2 ...   Mar 10 2010, 03:31 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   I'm not sure your recollection/math is right o...   Mar 10 2010, 03:32 AM
- - Draco18s   It is +3, if you get the R2. QUOTE A Rating 2 enc...   Mar 10 2010, 03:43 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   But doesn't rating 1 only give one die? I may ...   Mar 10 2010, 04:04 AM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 9 2010, 09:04...   Mar 10 2010, 04:14 AM
|- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 10 2010, 04:14 AM)...   Mar 10 2010, 04:26 AM
- - Draco18s   QUOTE A Rating 1 encephalon applies a +1 dice pool...   Mar 10 2010, 04:29 AM
|- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 10 2010, 04:29 AM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 04:30 AM
- - pbangarth   Ah... I missed the "same bonus" part, an...   Mar 10 2010, 04:33 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 9 2010, 09:33 PM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 04:34 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   So am I blind, i'm just not seeing the +3 dice...   Mar 10 2010, 04:35 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 9 2010, 09:35...   Mar 10 2010, 04:38 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   Ok now that I'm sure i havn't gone math in...   Mar 10 2010, 04:41 AM
- - Saint Sithney   Encephalon is just the old classic hacker upgrade....   Mar 10 2010, 04:50 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   How you figure, what bioware actually gives bonuse...   Mar 10 2010, 04:58 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 9 2010, 11:58...   Mar 10 2010, 05:24 AM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 9 2010, 08:58...   Mar 10 2010, 05:31 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 10 2010, 12:31...   Mar 10 2010, 05:33 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 10 2010, 12:31...   Mar 10 2010, 05:34 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 10 2010, 12:34 AM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 05:35 AM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 10 2010, 05:35 AM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 11:29 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Mar 10 2010, 06:29 AM...   Mar 10 2010, 04:58 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 10 2010, 05:58 PM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 06:24 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 10 2010, 11:24 AM) Re...   Mar 10 2010, 08:57 PM
- - KCKitsune   I would just go with the Simsense Booster. I know...   Mar 10 2010, 05:11 AM
- - Saint Sithney   Heh, forgot that RAW is skiddie rules where the pr...   Mar 10 2010, 05:36 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 10 2010, 12:36...   Mar 10 2010, 05:44 AM
- - Ascalaphus   The (dubious) advantage of the Encephalon is that ...   Mar 10 2010, 12:33 PM
- - makari   ok so it's not a typo and I'm not missing ...   Mar 10 2010, 03:58 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   My observation is pretty much the exact opposite o...   Mar 10 2010, 05:25 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 10 2010, 12:2...   Mar 10 2010, 05:35 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 10 2010, 12:35 PM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 05:41 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 10 2010, 02:35 PM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 06:03 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Mar 10 2010, 11...   Mar 11 2010, 09:32 PM
- - Sponge   If you go by the vision of hacking as presented in...   Mar 10 2010, 06:38 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Sponge @ Mar 10 2010, 11:38 AM) If...   Mar 10 2010, 08:59 PM
||- - Sponge   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 10 2010, 03:59 PM)...   Mar 10 2010, 10:23 PM
|||- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Sponge @ Mar 10 2010, 03:23 PM) ht...   Mar 10 2010, 10:45 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 10 2010, 03:59 PM)...   Mar 11 2010, 04:51 AM
||- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 11 2010, 04:51 AM) ...   Mar 11 2010, 11:29 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Sponge @ Mar 10 2010, 07:38 PM) In...   Mar 11 2010, 11:09 AM
- - Saint Sithney   Perhaps use teamwork rules to work in Logic as a s...   Mar 10 2010, 07:28 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 10 2010, 12:28...   Mar 10 2010, 09:01 PM
- - Warlordtheft   You know, I had to go back to the Skill + Program ...   Mar 10 2010, 09:18 PM
- - Warlordtheft   I see a black cat. I see a black cat. Double post...   Mar 10 2010, 09:18 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   I didn't see anyone adress it so I will respec...   Mar 10 2010, 11:28 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 10 2010, 06:2...   Mar 10 2010, 11:44 PM
|- - Tyro   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 10 2010, 03:44 PM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 11:49 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Tyro @ Mar 10 2010, 06:49 PM) You...   Mar 10 2010, 11:57 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE And yet without it, logic, intelligence, is ...   Mar 11 2010, 12:10 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 10 2010, 07:1...   Mar 11 2010, 12:41 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 10 2010, 05:41 PM) ...   Mar 11 2010, 01:04 AM
||- - LurkerOutThere   Hokay, so I don't think your getting what i...   Mar 11 2010, 02:45 AM
|||- - pbangarth   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 10 2010, 07:4...   Mar 11 2010, 02:55 AM
|||- - Karoline   QUOTE We base IQ on age as well, however. So it...   Mar 11 2010, 04:09 AM
||- - Brazilian_Shinobi   Anyway, I liked the idea of using stat + skill + t...   Mar 11 2010, 03:44 AM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Mar 10 2010, 10...   Mar 11 2010, 04:18 AM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 10 2010, 05:1...   Mar 11 2010, 02:49 AM
- - makari   has anyone played with the idea of house ruling a ...   Mar 11 2010, 12:15 AM
- - Tyro   Hear, hear.   Mar 11 2010, 01:00 AM
- - X-Kalibur   We base IQ on age as well, however. So it's ve...   Mar 11 2010, 01:10 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   Magician needs 1 hit to get a spell off regardless...   Mar 11 2010, 03:22 AM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 10 2010, 08:2...   Mar 11 2010, 04:04 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 10 2010, 08:2...   Mar 11 2010, 10:29 PM
- - Saint Sithney   How to pick a lock. Skill + Stat + Tool(autopicker...   Mar 11 2010, 04:40 AM
- - Tyro   We (I include myself in this) forgot about another...   Mar 11 2010, 04:45 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Tyro @ Mar 10 2010, 11:45 PM) We (...   Mar 11 2010, 04:51 AM
|- - Tyro   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 10 2010, 08:51 PM) ...   Mar 11 2010, 05:00 AM
- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 11 2010, 04:2...   Mar 11 2010, 11:38 AM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Mar 11 2010, 11:38 AM...   Mar 11 2010, 01:30 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Mar 11 2010, 08:30 AM...   Mar 11 2010, 01:48 PM
- - Ascalaphus   I personally rather like FrankTrollman's idea ...   Mar 11 2010, 11:43 AM
- - Aerospider   WRT logic cap vs program rating cap, the crux of t...   Mar 11 2010, 01:16 PM
- - makari   why do riggers need reaction? when jumped in t...   Mar 11 2010, 02:22 PM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (makari @ Mar 11 2010, 09:22 AM) wh...   Mar 11 2010, 02:46 PM
- - McCummhail   Two point to bring to the discussion: * SR4 design...   Mar 11 2010, 03:49 PM
|- - Mikado   QUOTE (McCummhail @ Mar 11 2010, 10:49 AM...   Mar 11 2010, 04:32 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (McCummhail @ Mar 11 2010, 10:49 AM...   Mar 11 2010, 04:48 PM
|- - McCummhail   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 11 2010, 11:48 AM) ...   Mar 11 2010, 06:14 PM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (McCummhail @ Mar 11 2010, 01:14 PM...   Mar 11 2010, 09:14 PM
||- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 11 2010, 02:14 PM) ...   Mar 11 2010, 10:34 PM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 11 2010, 07:48 PM) ...   Mar 11 2010, 10:26 PM
- - X-Kalibur   I thought the maglock passkeys were a simple devic...   Mar 11 2010, 04:57 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Mar 11 2010, 11:5...   Mar 11 2010, 05:17 PM
- - X-Kalibur   Quote page 255 SR4 (not A, no PDF for that yet) C...   Mar 11 2010, 05:27 PM
- - X-Kalibur   F6 Deflection spell. Instant boost to dodge   Mar 11 2010, 10:49 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Mar 11 2010, 03:4...   Mar 11 2010, 11:10 PM
|- - X-Kalibur   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 11 2010, 03:10 PM)...   Mar 11 2010, 11:15 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Mar 11 2010, 04:1...   Mar 11 2010, 11:46 PM
- - X-Kalibur   oh, I was going easy. Add in a F6 invisibility spe...   Mar 12 2010, 12:05 AM
- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Mar 11 2010, 05:0...   Mar 12 2010, 01:31 AM


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