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pbangarth
post Mar 13 2010, 11:23 PM
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Recent discussions elsewhere on DS prompt me to start this thread. I would like to engender a discussion about the practical ways possession can be used in game play, and the practical concerns that might come up in a player's or GMs mind about powers, abilities and side effects.

There have been enough discussions about whether possession is 'broken' or not. We don't need another thread going over the same ground. Nor do we need to compare how possession is better or worse than materialization.

What I do want is practical, tactical and nuts-and-bolts. For example, from recent posts elsewhere:

QUOTE (pbangarth)
Energy Aura is fun. But what if you don't want to set fire to the floor with every step as you enter the facility?


QUOTE (knasser)
Another issue is the cost. Bullets are cheap. Grenades are cheap. Even whole guns are cheap, in comparison to binding materials. If you want a Force 4 spirit on hand to boost you up when needed, that's 2,000¥ you'll pay out. A lot of money for one or two fights. I've had my group on runs for only 5,000¥ each. Does the character really want to blow nearly half their pay on spirits before they even get started?


For issues such as these, what I would like to see are posts dealing with:
1) How does one using possession account for and overcome difficulties?
2) How does one using possession make innovative uses of the abilities possession gives him?
3) How does a GM have fun challenging users of possession?
4) What things could really nail a user of possession to the wall if the GM could only think of them?

Information such as this would help both players and GMs come up with better play. I'm looking forward to a very informative discussion!
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- pbangarth   Possession Tradition Tactical Manual   Mar 13 2010, 11:23 PM
- - Saint Sithney   Generally, when you're possessed, you are no l...   Mar 13 2010, 11:40 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 13 2010, 04:40...   Mar 13 2010, 11:47 PM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 14 2010, 02:40...   Mar 14 2010, 12:48 AM
||- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 13 2010, 05:48 PM) Str...   Mar 14 2010, 12:52 AM
||- - Fatum   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 14 2010, 03:52 AM)...   Mar 14 2010, 04:22 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 13 2010, 04:40...   Mar 14 2010, 06:28 AM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 13 2010, 10:28 PM)...   Mar 14 2010, 07:11 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 14 2010, 12:11...   Mar 14 2010, 09:01 AM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 14 2010, 01:01 AM)...   Mar 15 2010, 09:40 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 15 2010, 05:40...   Mar 15 2010, 10:02 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 15 2010, 02:40...   Mar 15 2010, 01:31 PM
|- - Patrick the Gnome   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 15 2010, 08:31 AM)...   Mar 15 2010, 05:20 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 15 2010, 05...   Mar 15 2010, 07:02 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (knasser @ Mar 15 2010, 01:02 PM) T...   Mar 15 2010, 07:14 PM
- - Whipstitch   Binding costs and the number of services you'r...   Mar 14 2010, 12:17 AM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Mar 14 2010, 12:17 AM...   Mar 14 2010, 01:11 AM
- - pbangarth   An addendum to knasser's last point: a cute l...   Mar 14 2010, 01:40 AM
- - dirkformica   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 13 2010, 03:23 PM)...   Mar 14 2010, 01:57 AM
|- - Tanegar   QUOTE (dirkformica @ Mar 13 2010, 08:57 P...   Mar 14 2010, 03:23 AM
||- - AngelisStorm   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 13 2010, 11:23 PM) I...   Mar 14 2010, 03:45 AM
||- - toturi   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 14 2010, 11:23 AM) I...   Mar 14 2010, 04:09 AM
||- - Tanegar   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 13 2010, 11:09 PM) Su...   Mar 14 2010, 04:15 AM
|||- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 14 2010, 12:15 AM) K...   Mar 14 2010, 04:34 AM
||||- - Tanegar   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Mar 13 2010, 11:34 PM...   Mar 14 2010, 04:45 AM
||||- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 13 2010, 09:45 PM) T...   Mar 14 2010, 06:54 AM
|||- - toturi   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 14 2010, 12:15 PM) S...   Mar 14 2010, 04:49 AM
|||- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 13 2010, 10:49 PM) Vi...   Mar 14 2010, 04:51 AM
|||- - Fatum   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 14 2010, 07:49 AM) ho...   Mar 14 2010, 04:54 AM
||||- - toturi   QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 14 2010, 12:54 PM) Exc...   Mar 14 2010, 05:10 AM
|||- - Tanegar   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 13 2010, 11:49 PM) Vi...   Mar 14 2010, 05:28 AM
|||- - toturi   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 14 2010, 01:28 PM) A...   Mar 14 2010, 05:49 AM
||- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 13 2010, 10:09 PM) Su...   Mar 14 2010, 04:48 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (dirkformica @ Mar 13 2010, 06:57 P...   Mar 14 2010, 03:45 AM
- - toturi   My advice to GMs with players with possession (esp...   Mar 14 2010, 03:07 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   GM's: Don't allow possession, don't us...   Mar 14 2010, 03:10 AM
- - AngelisStorm   There is precident in SR history for Mentors aband...   Mar 14 2010, 04:44 AM
- - Whipstitch   So would you rather he send the Spirit to go pick ...   Mar 14 2010, 04:50 AM
- - Whipstitch   The problem is that what constitutes treating a sp...   Mar 14 2010, 05:00 AM
- - Falconer   Tenegar: That's not metagaming... you know how...   Mar 14 2010, 05:04 AM
|- - Emy   QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 13 2010, 10:04 PM) ...   Mar 14 2010, 05:54 AM
|- - knasser   Wow! I disagree with almost everything you (Fa...   Mar 14 2010, 11:16 AM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 14 2010, 06:04 AM) ...   Mar 14 2010, 04:17 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   It might be abuse if they magically port me away f...   Mar 14 2010, 05:15 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 13 2010, 10:1...   Mar 14 2010, 07:02 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   It said should, not must, i agree with the logic, ...   Mar 14 2010, 06:01 AM
- - Falconer   Emy... Just like Lurker says... should not must....   Mar 14 2010, 06:02 AM
|- - Emy   QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 13 2010, 11:02 PM) ...   Mar 14 2010, 06:08 AM
- - pbangarth   I understand people feel strongly about the very e...   Mar 14 2010, 06:04 AM
- - pbangarth   So, for example, a Possession tradition mage shoul...   Mar 14 2010, 06:11 AM
- - Falconer   I accidentally hit post... while re-reading your p...   Mar 14 2010, 06:15 AM
- - knasser   ...continued QUOTE (dirkformica)It seems like man...   Mar 14 2010, 11:17 AM
- - knasser   ...continued QUOTE (Falconer)That much said, it g...   Mar 14 2010, 11:17 AM
- - Falconer   Some quick comments knasser... The FAQ is activel...   Mar 14 2010, 03:47 PM
- - Falconer   D2F: And I have made that argument, repeatedly, an...   Mar 14 2010, 04:34 PM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 14 2010, 05:34 PM) ...   Mar 14 2010, 04:47 PM
- - Falconer   Just a small critical historical point. Vehicle a...   Mar 14 2010, 05:00 PM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 14 2010, 06:00 PM) ...   Mar 14 2010, 05:19 PM
- - Falconer   See p166. Shooting through barriers. Look at th...   Mar 14 2010, 05:21 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 14 2010, 03:47 PM) ...   Mar 14 2010, 06:21 PM
- - knasser   continued... QUOTE (Falconer)The final point is a...   Mar 14 2010, 06:21 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (knasser @ Mar 14 2010, 11:21 AM) I...   Mar 14 2010, 09:31 PM
||- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 14 2010, 03:31 PM)...   Mar 14 2010, 09:50 PM
|- - Falconer   QUOTE (knasser @ Mar 14 2010, 02:21 PM) I...   Mar 16 2010, 03:26 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 15 2010, 08:26 PM) ...   Mar 16 2010, 05:44 AM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 15 2010, 11:44 PM)...   Mar 16 2010, 05:48 AM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 16 2010, 05:48 AM)...   Mar 16 2010, 08:23 AM
- - pbangarth   I can't do it now, or for a while, as I am rea...   Mar 14 2010, 06:47 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 14 2010, 06:47 PM)...   Mar 14 2010, 07:40 PM
- - pbangarth   Sure! Thanks. But it will be a while, yet. ...   Mar 14 2010, 08:07 PM
- - Mordinvan   I always wanted to have a possession mage by a dro...   Mar 14 2010, 09:36 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 14 2010, 03:36 PM)...   Mar 14 2010, 09:51 PM
- - Mordinvan   Or one could by a medical clone of a troll, have i...   Mar 14 2010, 09:54 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 14 2010, 09:54 PM)...   Mar 15 2010, 06:47 PM
- - Whipstitch   It's not really a drone in that case though, i...   Mar 14 2010, 09:56 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Mar 14 2010, 02:56 PM...   Mar 14 2010, 10:30 PM
- - Saint Sithney   Yeah, I was posting in a hurry and was very unclea...   Mar 15 2010, 10:10 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 15 2010, 03:10...   Mar 15 2010, 01:45 PM
- - Warlordtheft   And everything is great until some yahoo Wagemage ...   Mar 15 2010, 04:47 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Mar 15 2010, 09:47 ...   Mar 15 2010, 05:11 PM
- - pbangarth   To follow up knasser's thesis, here is a vigne...   Mar 15 2010, 09:26 PM
- - svenftw   Without looking at the character but being a huge ...   Mar 15 2010, 10:12 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (svenftw @ Mar 15 2010, 04:12 PM) W...   Mar 15 2010, 11:46 PM
- - Patrick the Gnome   I don't see what the problem people have with ...   Mar 16 2010, 05:40 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 15 2010, 10...   Mar 16 2010, 06:04 AM
|- - Patrick the Gnome   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 16 2010, 01:04 AM)...   Mar 16 2010, 06:49 AM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 06...   Mar 16 2010, 08:17 AM
|- - Patrick the Gnome   QUOTE (knasser @ Mar 16 2010, 03:17 AM) N...   Mar 16 2010, 09:17 AM
|- - dirkformica   QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 01...   Mar 16 2010, 10:10 AM
- - Falconer   Mordinvan: A ward cannot be bypassed by using the ...   Mar 16 2010, 05:49 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 15 2010, 11:49 PM) ...   Mar 17 2010, 01:17 AM
- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 05...   Mar 16 2010, 03:38 PM
- - Patrick the Gnome   I don't care about whether or not it's mag...   Mar 16 2010, 06:12 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 06...   Mar 16 2010, 06:53 PM
- - Patrick the Gnome   As much as I hate to say it, after looking over th...   Mar 17 2010, 01:10 AM
- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 08...   Mar 17 2010, 01:36 AM
|- - Patrick the Gnome   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Mar 16 2010, 09:36 PM...   Mar 17 2010, 02:19 AM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 09...   Mar 17 2010, 02:30 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 08...   Mar 17 2010, 03:41 AM
- - Fatum   QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 17 2010, 04...   Mar 17 2010, 01:41 AM
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