Mar 13 2010, 11:23 PM
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Old Man of the North ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,524 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
Recent discussions elsewhere on DS prompt me to start this thread. I would like to engender a discussion about the practical ways possession can be used in game play, and the practical concerns that might come up in a player's or GMs mind about powers, abilities and side effects.
There have been enough discussions about whether possession is 'broken' or not. We don't need another thread going over the same ground. Nor do we need to compare how possession is better or worse than materialization. What I do want is practical, tactical and nuts-and-bolts. For example, from recent posts elsewhere: QUOTE (pbangarth) Energy Aura is fun. But what if you don't want to set fire to the floor with every step as you enter the facility? QUOTE (knasser) Another issue is the cost. Bullets are cheap. Grenades are cheap. Even whole guns are cheap, in comparison to binding materials. If you want a Force 4 spirit on hand to boost you up when needed, that's 2,000¥ you'll pay out. A lot of money for one or two fights. I've had my group on runs for only 5,000¥ each. Does the character really want to blow nearly half their pay on spirits before they even get started? For issues such as these, what I would like to see are posts dealing with: 1) How does one using possession account for and overcome difficulties? 2) How does one using possession make innovative uses of the abilities possession gives him? 3) How does a GM have fun challenging users of possession? 4) What things could really nail a user of possession to the wall if the GM could only think of them? Information such as this would help both players and GMs come up with better play. I'm looking forward to a very informative discussion! |
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pbangarth Possession Tradition Tactical Manual Mar 13 2010, 11:23 PM
Saint Sithney Generally, when you're possessed, you are no l... Mar 13 2010, 11:40 PM
pbangarth QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 13 2010, 04:40... Mar 13 2010, 11:47 PM
Fatum QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 14 2010, 02:40... Mar 14 2010, 12:48 AM

pbangarth QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 13 2010, 05:48 PM) Str... Mar 14 2010, 12:52 AM

Fatum QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 14 2010, 03:52 AM)... Mar 14 2010, 04:22 AM
Mordinvan QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 13 2010, 04:40... Mar 14 2010, 06:28 AM
Saint Sithney QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 13 2010, 10:28 PM)... Mar 14 2010, 07:11 AM
Mordinvan QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 14 2010, 12:11... Mar 14 2010, 09:01 AM
Saint Sithney QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 14 2010, 01:01 AM)... Mar 15 2010, 09:40 AM
toturi QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 15 2010, 05:40... Mar 15 2010, 10:02 AM
Mordinvan QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 15 2010, 02:40... Mar 15 2010, 01:31 PM
Patrick the Gnome QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 15 2010, 08:31 AM)... Mar 15 2010, 05:20 PM
knasser QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 15 2010, 05... Mar 15 2010, 07:02 PM
Mordinvan QUOTE (knasser @ Mar 15 2010, 01:02 PM) T... Mar 15 2010, 07:14 PM
Whipstitch Binding costs and the number of services you'r... Mar 14 2010, 12:17 AM
knasser QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Mar 14 2010, 12:17 AM... Mar 14 2010, 01:11 AM
pbangarth An addendum to knasser's last point: a cute l... Mar 14 2010, 01:40 AM
dirkformica QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 13 2010, 03:23 PM)... Mar 14 2010, 01:57 AM
Tanegar QUOTE (dirkformica @ Mar 13 2010, 08:57 P... Mar 14 2010, 03:23 AM

AngelisStorm QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 13 2010, 11:23 PM) I... Mar 14 2010, 03:45 AM

toturi QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 14 2010, 11:23 AM) I... Mar 14 2010, 04:09 AM

Tanegar QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 13 2010, 11:09 PM) Su... Mar 14 2010, 04:15 AM


Whipstitch QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 14 2010, 12:15 AM) K... Mar 14 2010, 04:34 AM



Tanegar QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Mar 13 2010, 11:34 PM... Mar 14 2010, 04:45 AM



Mordinvan QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 13 2010, 09:45 PM) T... Mar 14 2010, 06:54 AM


toturi QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 14 2010, 12:15 PM) S... Mar 14 2010, 04:49 AM


LurkerOutThere QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 13 2010, 10:49 PM) Vi... Mar 14 2010, 04:51 AM


Fatum QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 14 2010, 07:49 AM) ho... Mar 14 2010, 04:54 AM



toturi QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 14 2010, 12:54 PM) Exc... Mar 14 2010, 05:10 AM


Tanegar QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 13 2010, 11:49 PM) Vi... Mar 14 2010, 05:28 AM


toturi QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 14 2010, 01:28 PM) A... Mar 14 2010, 05:49 AM

LurkerOutThere QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 13 2010, 10:09 PM) Su... Mar 14 2010, 04:48 AM
Udoshi QUOTE (dirkformica @ Mar 13 2010, 06:57 P... Mar 14 2010, 03:45 AM
toturi My advice to GMs with players with possession (esp... Mar 14 2010, 03:07 AM
LurkerOutThere GM's: Don't allow possession, don't us... Mar 14 2010, 03:10 AM
AngelisStorm There is precident in SR history for Mentors aband... Mar 14 2010, 04:44 AM
Whipstitch So would you rather he send the Spirit to go pick ... Mar 14 2010, 04:50 AM
Whipstitch The problem is that what constitutes treating a sp... Mar 14 2010, 05:00 AM
Falconer Tenegar:
That's not metagaming... you know how... Mar 14 2010, 05:04 AM
Emy QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 13 2010, 10:04 PM) ... Mar 14 2010, 05:54 AM
knasser Wow! I disagree with almost everything you (Fa... Mar 14 2010, 11:16 AM
D2F QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 14 2010, 06:04 AM) ... Mar 14 2010, 04:17 PM
LurkerOutThere It might be abuse if they magically port me away f... Mar 14 2010, 05:15 AM
Mordinvan QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 13 2010, 10:1... Mar 14 2010, 07:02 AM
LurkerOutThere It said should, not must, i agree with the logic, ... Mar 14 2010, 06:01 AM
Falconer Emy... Just like Lurker says... should not must.... Mar 14 2010, 06:02 AM
Emy QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 13 2010, 11:02 PM) ... Mar 14 2010, 06:08 AM
pbangarth I understand people feel strongly about the very e... Mar 14 2010, 06:04 AM
pbangarth So, for example, a Possession tradition mage shoul... Mar 14 2010, 06:11 AM
Falconer I accidentally hit post... while re-reading your p... Mar 14 2010, 06:15 AM
knasser ...continued
QUOTE (dirkformica)It seems like man... Mar 14 2010, 11:17 AM
knasser ...continued
QUOTE (Falconer)That much said, it g... Mar 14 2010, 11:17 AM
Falconer Some quick comments knasser...
The FAQ is activel... Mar 14 2010, 03:47 PM
Falconer D2F:
And I have made that argument, repeatedly, an... Mar 14 2010, 04:34 PM
D2F QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 14 2010, 05:34 PM) ... Mar 14 2010, 04:47 PM
Falconer Just a small critical historical point. Vehicle a... Mar 14 2010, 05:00 PM
D2F QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 14 2010, 06:00 PM) ... Mar 14 2010, 05:19 PM
Falconer See p166. Shooting through barriers. Look at th... Mar 14 2010, 05:21 PM
knasser QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 14 2010, 03:47 PM) ... Mar 14 2010, 06:21 PM
knasser continued...
QUOTE (Falconer)The final point is a... Mar 14 2010, 06:21 PM
Mordinvan QUOTE (knasser @ Mar 14 2010, 11:21 AM) I... Mar 14 2010, 09:31 PM

pbangarth QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 14 2010, 03:31 PM)... Mar 14 2010, 09:50 PM
Falconer QUOTE (knasser @ Mar 14 2010, 02:21 PM) I... Mar 16 2010, 03:26 AM
Mordinvan QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 15 2010, 08:26 PM) ... Mar 16 2010, 05:44 AM
pbangarth QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 15 2010, 11:44 PM)... Mar 16 2010, 05:48 AM
knasser QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 16 2010, 05:48 AM)... Mar 16 2010, 08:23 AM
pbangarth I can't do it now, or for a while, as I am rea... Mar 14 2010, 06:47 PM
knasser QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 14 2010, 06:47 PM)... Mar 14 2010, 07:40 PM
pbangarth Sure! Thanks. But it will be a while, yet. ... Mar 14 2010, 08:07 PM
Mordinvan I always wanted to have a possession mage by a dro... Mar 14 2010, 09:36 PM
pbangarth QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 14 2010, 03:36 PM)... Mar 14 2010, 09:51 PM
Mordinvan Or one could by a medical clone of a troll, have i... Mar 14 2010, 09:54 PM
knasser QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 14 2010, 09:54 PM)... Mar 15 2010, 06:47 PM
Whipstitch It's not really a drone in that case though, i... Mar 14 2010, 09:56 PM
Mordinvan QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Mar 14 2010, 02:56 PM... Mar 14 2010, 10:30 PM
Saint Sithney Yeah, I was posting in a hurry and was very unclea... Mar 15 2010, 10:10 AM
Mordinvan QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 15 2010, 03:10... Mar 15 2010, 01:45 PM
Warlordtheft And everything is great until some yahoo Wagemage ... Mar 15 2010, 04:47 PM
Mordinvan QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Mar 15 2010, 09:47 ... Mar 15 2010, 05:11 PM
pbangarth To follow up knasser's thesis, here is a vigne... Mar 15 2010, 09:26 PM
svenftw Without looking at the character but being a huge ... Mar 15 2010, 10:12 PM
pbangarth QUOTE (svenftw @ Mar 15 2010, 04:12 PM) W... Mar 15 2010, 11:46 PM
Patrick the Gnome I don't see what the problem people have with ... Mar 16 2010, 05:40 AM
Mordinvan QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 15 2010, 10... Mar 16 2010, 06:04 AM
Patrick the Gnome QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 16 2010, 01:04 AM)... Mar 16 2010, 06:49 AM
knasser QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 06... Mar 16 2010, 08:17 AM
Patrick the Gnome QUOTE (knasser @ Mar 16 2010, 03:17 AM) N... Mar 16 2010, 09:17 AM
dirkformica QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 01... Mar 16 2010, 10:10 AM
Falconer Mordinvan:
A ward cannot be bypassed by using the ... Mar 16 2010, 05:49 AM
Mordinvan QUOTE (Falconer @ Mar 15 2010, 11:49 PM) ... Mar 17 2010, 01:17 AM
Warlordtheft QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 05... Mar 16 2010, 03:38 PM
Patrick the Gnome I don't care about whether or not it's mag... Mar 16 2010, 06:12 PM
knasser QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 06... Mar 16 2010, 06:53 PM
Patrick the Gnome As much as I hate to say it, after looking over th... Mar 17 2010, 01:10 AM
Whipstitch QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 08... Mar 17 2010, 01:36 AM
Patrick the Gnome QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Mar 16 2010, 09:36 PM... Mar 17 2010, 02:19 AM
Whipstitch QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 09... Mar 17 2010, 02:30 AM
Mordinvan QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 16 2010, 08... Mar 17 2010, 03:41 AM
Fatum QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Mar 17 2010, 04... Mar 17 2010, 01:41 AM![]() ![]() |
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