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KnightIII
post Mar 28 2010, 11:45 PM
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This has likely been hashed over somewhere else, but my searches have brought up alot of things that dont really relate to my question.

The average person has around 3 Willpower. Give or take a point. The average caster has around 4 spellcasting and 4 magic (not even playing min max). So if my understanding of the rules is correct, a mage rolls 8 dice against a measly 3 willpower. And when the target(s) usually fail to avoid it they automatically take the full Force of the spell plus net hits. With no way to migitate the damage. One or two of those will stun someone to sleep or kill em outright in the case of manabolt (ball). But manabolts arnt even nessesary if you stun and preform a coup de grace.

So, short over over populating the world with counter spelling mages, how do mundane folk (like Runners or security personel) survive that?
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- KnightIII   How do mundanes survive magic?   Mar 28 2010, 11:45 PM
- - rumanchu   QUOTE (KnightIII @ Mar 28 2010, 03:45 PM)...   Mar 28 2010, 11:53 PM
- - Khyron   The best way to survive that is to shoot the mage ...   Mar 29 2010, 12:20 AM
- - Valashar   This is also why security personnel and experience...   Mar 29 2010, 12:22 AM
- - Teulisch   well...... The corps hire their own magical suppor...   Mar 29 2010, 01:04 AM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (Teulisch @ Mar 28 2010, 05:04 PM) ...   Mar 29 2010, 01:08 AM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Faraday @ Mar 28 2010, 07:08 PM) P...   Mar 29 2010, 01:14 AM
|- - Valashar   QUOTE (Faraday @ Mar 28 2010, 07:08 PM) D...   Mar 29 2010, 01:21 AM
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|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Valashar @ Mar 28 2010, 07:36 PM) ...   Mar 29 2010, 02:42 AM
||- - Faraday   This space for rent.   Mar 29 2010, 01:57 AM
||- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Valashar @ Mar 28 2010, 07:21 PM) ...   Mar 29 2010, 10:47 PM
|||- - rumanchu   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 29 2010, 03:47 PM)...   Mar 29 2010, 11:35 PM
||- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Valashar @ Mar 28 2010, 07:21 PM) ...   Mar 30 2010, 09:02 AM
||- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Mar 30 2010, 10:02...   Mar 30 2010, 10:28 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Faraday @ Mar 28 2010, 09:08 PM) D...   Mar 29 2010, 02:21 AM
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||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Mar 28 2010, 07...   Mar 29 2010, 02:35 AM
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||- - Malachi   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Mar 28 2010, 08...   Mar 29 2010, 04:35 PM
||- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Malachi @ Mar 29 2010, 05:35 PM) T...   Mar 29 2010, 05:03 PM
|||- - Malachi   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Mar 29 2010, 11:03 AM...   Mar 29 2010, 05:18 PM
||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Malachi @ Mar 29 2010, 12:35 PM) T...   Mar 30 2010, 12:49 AM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (Faraday @ Mar 28 2010, 10:08 PM) D...   Mar 29 2010, 03:24 AM
- - wargear   I played in a game where we had a heavy magical co...   Mar 29 2010, 01:28 AM
- - cndblank   Out numbering some one a thousand to one never hur...   Mar 29 2010, 01:46 AM
- - nezumi   Don't piss off mages. Make sure that if you do...   Mar 29 2010, 02:05 AM
- - DireRadiant   Bullets cost 2 nuyen, and everyone can get as many...   Mar 29 2010, 02:32 AM
- - Valashar   And the object resistance only matters against dir...   Mar 29 2010, 02:44 AM
- - Glyph   QUOTE (KnightIII @ Mar 28 2010, 03:45 PM)...   Mar 29 2010, 02:49 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   I dislike it when the rules add things like that. ...   Mar 29 2010, 03:06 AM
- - KnightIII   Thank you all very much. Drones seem the answer to...   Mar 29 2010, 05:05 AM
- - Valashar   Against a mage that loves their mana spells, drone...   Mar 29 2010, 05:26 AM
- - Tomothy   Why paracritters?   Mar 29 2010, 12:22 PM
- - Ascalaphus   On the level of a lone security guard, mages are t...   Mar 29 2010, 01:02 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Mar 29 2010, 07:02 AM...   Mar 30 2010, 02:25 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 30 2010, 10:25 AM)...   Mar 30 2010, 04:20 AM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 29 2010, 07:25 PM)...   Mar 30 2010, 08:10 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 30 2010, 04:10...   Mar 30 2010, 08:38 AM
||- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 30 2010, 01:38 AM) Un...   Mar 30 2010, 09:05 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 30 2010, 02:10...   Mar 30 2010, 09:41 AM
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||- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 30 2010, 04:08...   Mar 30 2010, 08:51 PM
||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 30 2010, 04:51 PM)...   Mar 30 2010, 08:54 PM
||- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Mar 30 2010, 01...   Mar 30 2010, 08:56 PM
||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Mar 30 2010, 04:56 PM)...   Mar 30 2010, 09:02 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 30 2010, 03:10...   Mar 30 2010, 04:55 PM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Mar 30 2010, 09...   Mar 30 2010, 08:06 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Mar 30 2010, 10...   Mar 30 2010, 08:34 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Mar 30 2010, 04...   Mar 30 2010, 08:52 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Mar 30 2010, 01...   Mar 30 2010, 08:55 PM
- - DuctShuiTengu   Well, there's various other magical stuff (fro...   Mar 29 2010, 02:16 PM
|- - KnightIII   QUOTE (DuctShuiTengu @ Mar 29 2010, 02:16...   Mar 29 2010, 03:49 PM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (KnightIII @ Mar 29 2010, 09:49 AM)...   Mar 29 2010, 04:54 PM
|- - DuctShuiTengu   QUOTE (KnightIII @ Mar 29 2010, 05:49 PM)...   Mar 30 2010, 10:40 AM
- - X-Kalibur   Just throw a murdercycle at the mage. Problem solv...   Mar 29 2010, 03:17 PM
- - Octopiii   Here are some ideas for corporate security procedu...   Mar 29 2010, 06:16 PM
- - Cergorach   Your average guard will as easily fall to a stun b...   Mar 29 2010, 09:38 PM
- - Wandering One   Speaking of mundanes and attempting to intelligent...   Mar 29 2010, 11:45 PM
- - Shrike30   One of the main problems with high-force spells is...   Mar 30 2010, 03:39 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Shrike30 @ Mar 29 2010, 11:39 PM) ...   Mar 30 2010, 04:06 AM
- - toturi   What does the mage need to do in order to clean up...   Mar 30 2010, 03:52 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 29 2010, 11:52 PM) Wh...   Mar 30 2010, 04:06 AM
- - KnightIII   Our mage bugs out to the the van and as the team r...   Mar 30 2010, 03:54 AM
- - dirkformica   P. 179 of SR4A "Erase Astral Signature: A mag...   Mar 30 2010, 04:42 AM
- - Ascalaphus   None of my solutions are a guarantee, but a couple...   Mar 30 2010, 07:35 AM
- - Ophis   I'm sure I remember a quote from AH about soak...   Mar 30 2010, 10:07 AM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Ophis @ Mar 30 2010, 04:07 AM) I...   Mar 30 2010, 10:14 AM
|- - Ophis   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Mar 30 2010, 11:14...   Mar 30 2010, 02:27 PM
- - Ascalaphus   A good way to challenge mages is always to vary th...   Mar 30 2010, 11:13 AM


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