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Smokeskin
post Apr 25 2010, 04:31 PM
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If we take an ambidextrous character with 2 SMGs, each one with 5 points of RC, and fire a long burst from one SMG the first Simple Action, and the next Simple Action fire a long burst with the other one, there's no recoil that carries over, and there's no split dice pool since there's only 1 weapon fired per action.

And aren't you even able to add smartlink dice since you're not using two weapons in the same action?

It seems wrong, but by the rules it seems to be legit, doesn't it?
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- Smokeskin   Dualwielding SMGs and firing 1 long burst each   Apr 25 2010, 04:31 PM
- - Starmage21   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Apr 25 2010, 11:31 AM)...   Apr 25 2010, 04:36 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Starmage21 @ Apr 25 2010, 09:36 AM...   Apr 25 2010, 04:38 PM
|- - RedFish   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Apr 25 2010, 05:38 PM)...   Apr 25 2010, 04:39 PM
- - Banaticus   It's only one point of recoil on the second sh...   Apr 25 2010, 05:01 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Banaticus @ Apr 25 2010, 11:01 AM)...   Apr 25 2010, 05:14 PM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Banaticus @ Apr 25 2010, 05:01 PM)...   Apr 25 2010, 05:48 PM
- - mmmkay   you probably could get the same weapon with 6 reco...   Apr 25 2010, 05:29 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Long bursts require Complex Actions unless they al...   Apr 25 2010, 05:32 PM
|- - Gmoz   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 25 2010, 11...   Apr 25 2010, 05:39 PM
||- - Octopiii   QUOTE (Gmoz @ Apr 25 2010, 10:39 AM) That...   Apr 25 2010, 06:19 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 25 2010, 11...   Apr 25 2010, 05:39 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Do they? My mistake then. I get those rules conf...   Apr 25 2010, 05:39 PM
- - Falconer   No Tymeaus... Recoil is cumulative across a pass....   Apr 25 2010, 06:47 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Falconer @ Apr 25 2010, 12:47 PM) ...   Apr 25 2010, 07:57 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE The first point out of the second gun is not...   Apr 25 2010, 07:21 PM
- - Falconer   He said, each gun had -5 points of recoil... so he...   Apr 25 2010, 07:31 PM
- - Triggvi   If you had 5RC with each gun you would be at -1 wi...   Apr 25 2010, 07:41 PM
- - FriendoftheDork   This might be in concordance with RAW except the r...   Apr 25 2010, 08:07 PM
|- - Nal0n   QUOTE (FriendoftheDork @ Apr 25 2010, 10...   Apr 25 2010, 08:35 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Falconer @ Apr 25 2010, 12:47 PM) ...   Apr 25 2010, 08:27 PM
|- - Falconer   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 25 2010, 04:27...   Apr 26 2010, 12:06 AM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Falconer @ Apr 25 2010, 08:32 PM) ...   Apr 26 2010, 01:35 AM
|- - Falconer   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 25 2010, 08...   Apr 26 2010, 01:44 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   By default, the rules relate solely to a single we...   Apr 25 2010, 08:42 PM
- - Nal0n   QUOTE (Arsenal p. 163)Only SMG or smaller-sized we...   Apr 25 2010, 08:51 PM
|- - Doc Byte   QUOTE (Nal0n @ Apr 25 2010, 10:51 PM) As ...   Apr 25 2010, 11:58 PM
|- - FriendoftheDork   QUOTE (Doc Byte @ Apr 26 2010, 12:58 AM) ...   Apr 26 2010, 12:01 AM
- - Smokeskin   What about smartgun modifiers? Can you use them wh...   Apr 25 2010, 08:59 PM
- - Tyro   I generally think of long bursts as taking a ...   Apr 25 2010, 09:05 PM
- - Medicineman   Smartlink Bonus can be added if you're switchi...   Apr 25 2010, 09:09 PM
|- - Tyro   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Apr 25 2010, 01:09 P...   Apr 25 2010, 10:00 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Double up on the recoil compensation? What are yo...   Apr 26 2010, 12:10 AM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE Wow Muspy... p152 "Weapons that fire m...   Apr 26 2010, 12:20 AM
|- - Falconer   QUOTE (HappyDaze @ Apr 25 2010, 07:20 PM)...   Apr 26 2010, 12:31 AM
- - Falconer   Funk... instead of just posting and inserting your...   Apr 26 2010, 12:25 AM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Falconer @ Apr 25 2010, 07:25 PM) ...   Apr 26 2010, 01:00 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Ugh, always with the 'ur dumb; no UR dumb...   Apr 26 2010, 01:23 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   You're also ignoring the fact that you have to...   Apr 26 2010, 01:26 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 25 2010, 08...   Apr 26 2010, 01:31 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I thought the whole point was that you don't h...   Apr 26 2010, 01:28 AM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 25 2010, 08:28 PM...   Apr 26 2010, 01:34 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 25 2010, 08...   Apr 26 2010, 01:45 AM
- - Karoline   I think the main point Falconer is trying to make ...   Apr 26 2010, 01:29 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Okay, but I don't see how that's related. ...   Apr 26 2010, 01:32 AM
- - Falconer   All I can say is you're on crack... AND ATTRIB...   Apr 26 2010, 01:32 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Again, you *are* single-quotes-mean-figurative ...   Apr 26 2010, 01:39 AM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Karoline)But that is exactly what this thre...   Apr 26 2010, 01:50 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 25 2010, 09...   Apr 26 2010, 02:01 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Karoline)Simple action 1 - fire only SMG wi...   Apr 26 2010, 02:16 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 25 2010, 10...   Apr 26 2010, 02:28 AM
- - Falconer   Actually you can fire 2 long 6round bursts... See...   Apr 26 2010, 02:17 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Wait, you're trying to present the FAQ -- a co...   Apr 26 2010, 02:27 AM
- - Yerameyahu   No, that's crazy. Recoil penalties are cumulat...   Apr 26 2010, 02:54 AM
|- - Tyro   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 25 2010, 06:54 PM...   Apr 26 2010, 03:06 AM
- - Darkeus   Not that I have a horse in this race but it has be...   Apr 26 2010, 03:21 AM
- - Yerameyahu   You split the pool if it's one action, you don...   Apr 26 2010, 03:24 AM
|- - Darkeus   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 25 2010, 11:24 PM...   Apr 26 2010, 03:36 AM
- - Octopiii   Keep it simple, guys, and just quote the book: QU...   Apr 26 2010, 03:38 AM
- - Darkeus   Ah see, I still set the splitting of the dice pool...   Apr 26 2010, 03:46 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Darkeus, there's no reason to say that one *mu...   Apr 26 2010, 03:47 AM
|- - Darkeus   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 25 2010, 11:47 PM...   Apr 26 2010, 03:52 AM
- - Octopiii   There is nothing in the rules preventing you from ...   Apr 26 2010, 03:51 AM
- - Falconer   I did say RC was applied per weapon (and that it...   Apr 26 2010, 03:52 AM
- - Yerameyahu   It's crazy to say that you can't, shouldn...   Apr 26 2010, 04:40 AM
- - Shrike30   It's not uncommon for Sk8 to use a pair of mod...   Apr 26 2010, 05:08 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Falconer @ Apr 25 2010, 06:06 PM) ...   Apr 26 2010, 06:39 AM
- - Smokeskin   Could Funkenstein and anyone else who thinks that ...   Apr 26 2010, 08:07 AM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Apr 26 2010, 03:07 AM)...   Apr 26 2010, 11:30 AM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 26 2010, 12...   Apr 26 2010, 11:48 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 26 2010, 06...   Apr 26 2010, 01:14 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Karoline @ Apr 26 2010, 08:14 AM) ...   Apr 26 2010, 01:21 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 26 2010, 02...   Apr 26 2010, 01:42 PM
- - Karoline   You still haven't addressed my main point. Ho...   Apr 26 2010, 01:51 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Karoline @ Apr 26 2010, 07:51 AM) ...   Apr 26 2010, 01:57 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 26 2010, 09...   Apr 26 2010, 02:03 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Karoline @ Apr 26 2010, 09:03 AM) ...   Apr 26 2010, 02:07 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 26 2010, 10...   Apr 26 2010, 02:16 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Karoline @ Apr 26 2010, 09:16 AM) ...   Apr 26 2010, 02:20 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 26 2010, 10...   Apr 26 2010, 02:25 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Karoline @ Apr 26 2010, 09:25 AM) ...   Apr 26 2010, 02:29 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 26 2010, 10...   Apr 26 2010, 02:40 PM
- - Smokeskin   I agree Karoline that it is completely nonsensical...   Apr 26 2010, 02:26 PM
|- - Darkeus   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Apr 26 2010, 10:26 AM)...   Apr 26 2010, 04:11 PM
- - Yerameyahu   How do we always end up in some weird 'philoso...   Apr 26 2010, 03:16 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   I don't like to blindly accept the rules as wr...   Apr 26 2010, 03:21 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 26 2010, 11...   Apr 26 2010, 03:33 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   So wouldn't it stand to reason that my take is...   Apr 26 2010, 03:51 PM
- - Triggvi   It does make any sense for the fully compensated r...   Apr 26 2010, 04:10 PM
|- - Darkeus   QUOTE (Triggvi @ Apr 26 2010, 12:10 PM) I...   Apr 26 2010, 04:15 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Darkeus @ Apr 26 2010, 11:15 AM) E...   Apr 26 2010, 04:40 PM
|- - Darkeus   QUOTE (Karoline @ Apr 26 2010, 12:40 PM) ...   Apr 26 2010, 04:53 PM
|- - DWC   QUOTE (Darkeus @ Apr 26 2010, 11:53 AM) S...   Apr 26 2010, 05:02 PM
|- - Darkeus   QUOTE (DWC @ Apr 26 2010, 01:02 PM) Your ...   Apr 26 2010, 05:15 PM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (Darkeus @ Apr 26 2010, 12:15 PM) I...   Apr 26 2010, 05:29 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (DWC @ Apr 26 2010, 06:02 PM) When ...   Apr 26 2010, 05:40 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Apr 26 2010, 12:40 PM)...   Apr 26 2010, 05:44 PM
- - RedFish   If one was to not apply recoil to the 2nd gun, one...   Apr 26 2010, 04:29 PM
- - Triggvi   in passed editions it was uncompensated recoil tha...   Apr 26 2010, 05:48 PM
- - Triggvi   so if you have a comlink in your other hand you ha...   Apr 26 2010, 05:50 PM
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