Apr 26 2010, 08:30 PM
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Players whose approach to character creation makes it seem like they just finished a runthrough of Gears of War 2 and have forgotten the point of Shadowrun present a unique problem. One of my players, and I'm sure you've all had characters like this in your games, is playing a character whose primary ability is shooting people very hard without dying. He's not sneaky, knowledgeable, tech savvy, charming, Awakened, or well connected.
In Shadowrun, these people stand far apart from the people who are of different archetypes. Fully automatic fire, as we all know, is incredibly destructive. But generally, 1) it's a bad idea to have the streetsam fighting off corp-sec all by himself and 2) when the other characters are sneaking, astral projecting, and hacking, they don't appreciate this guy counting up his modifiers for firing off a 12-round burst of EX-EX from his heavily modified Ares Alpha. He has silencers when he needs them, but generally every time you kill someone, you risk getting caught in the act. What do characters like this do when they aren't allowed to cause wanton destruction? |
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Kazuhiro Giving the massive kill-machine a job Apr 26 2010, 08:30 PM
Kyrel Very simple. They have a problem. Or challenge i... Apr 26 2010, 08:38 PM
Banaticus If the other PC's in the group are really so s... Apr 26 2010, 08:41 PM
Kazuhiro Well, as a GM what should I do with him? He enjoys... Apr 26 2010, 08:47 PM
Wandering One QUOTE (Kazuhiro @ Apr 26 2010, 01:47 PM) ... Apr 26 2010, 08:55 PM
Draco18s Drop a bridge on them. I had a GM do that before ... Apr 26 2010, 11:00 PM
tagz I have a policy not to radically alter the securit... Apr 26 2010, 11:16 PM
ClemulusRex While there is certainly a place in the Sixth Worl... Apr 27 2010, 01:28 AM
AndyZ There's a few ways to handle this but it depen... Apr 27 2010, 02:02 AM
Kagetenshi Sometimes nothing helps a clean exit like security... Apr 27 2010, 02:04 AM
Shot It does seem as though your friend made the oddly ... Apr 27 2010, 03:10 AM
BlueMax The point of Shadowrun isn't something I consi... Apr 27 2010, 03:32 AM
Whipstitch QUOTE (BlueMax @ Apr 26 2010, 10:32 PM) T... Apr 27 2010, 07:30 AM
ClemulusRex QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Apr 27 2010, 07:30 AM... Apr 27 2010, 12:28 PM
The Jopp Let him babysit an entire daycare center.
Put the... Apr 27 2010, 07:13 AM
Ascalaphus Does he feel like he needs* all that fighting powe... Apr 27 2010, 07:26 AM
toturi QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Apr 27 2010, 03:26 PM... Apr 27 2010, 07:42 AM
Ascalaphus QUOTE (toturi @ Apr 27 2010, 08:42 AM) Ah... Apr 27 2010, 07:57 AM
Smokeskin So he created a one-dimensional character. Ok, he... Apr 27 2010, 08:14 AM
wind_in_the_stones Kazuhiro, is it just you that has a problem with t... Apr 28 2010, 04:02 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (wind_in_the_stones @ Apr 28 2010, 12... Apr 28 2010, 03:56 PM
Eratosthenes QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Apr 28 2010, 11:56 AM... Apr 28 2010, 03:59 PM
wind_in_the_stones QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Apr 28 2010, 10:59 ... Apr 29 2010, 04:38 AM
Ascalaphus QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Apr 28 2010, 04:56 PM... Apr 28 2010, 05:01 PM
Kagetenshi But that reputation isn't enhanced by being se... Apr 28 2010, 08:27 PM
Whipstitch Yeah, Mitsuhama picked up that kinda rep by killin... Apr 29 2010, 03:04 AM
Whipstitch I don't really buy into that explanation much.... Apr 29 2010, 06:13 AM
Eratosthenes QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Apr 29 2010, 01:13 AM... Apr 29 2010, 01:54 PM
CeeJay QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Apr 29 2010, 03:54 ... Apr 29 2010, 02:24 PM
Whipstitch QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Apr 29 2010, 08:54 ... Apr 29 2010, 07:37 PM
Smokeskin There is no universal solution here.
On the downs... Apr 29 2010, 02:57 PM
Kagetenshi But the important thing is that the value of reven... Apr 29 2010, 04:19 PM
Triggvi When you have one dimensional character, challenge... Apr 29 2010, 04:37 PM
Mongoose I don't see why combat capable characters so o... Apr 29 2010, 05:19 PM
Eratosthenes QUOTE (Mongoose @ Apr 29 2010, 01:19 PM) ... Apr 29 2010, 05:46 PM
Smokeskin QUOTE (Mongoose @ Apr 29 2010, 06:19 PM) ... Apr 29 2010, 08:09 PM

Mongoose QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Apr 29 2010, 09:09 PM)... Apr 29 2010, 11:26 PM


Smokeskin QUOTE (Mongoose @ Apr 30 2010, 12:26 AM) ... Apr 30 2010, 08:04 AM


Kagetenshi QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Apr 30 2010, 03:04 AM)... Apr 30 2010, 11:58 AM


Wandering One QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Apr 30 2010, 04:58 AM... Apr 30 2010, 04:57 PM

Mongoose damn easy to double post here... Apr 29 2010, 11:26 PM
wind_in_the_stones QUOTE (Mongoose @ Apr 29 2010, 12:19 PM) ... Apr 30 2010, 12:45 AM
Kagetenshi I'm not familiar with how SR4 Initiative makes... Apr 29 2010, 05:59 PM
Ascalaphus QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Apr 29 2010, 06:59 PM... Apr 29 2010, 06:27 PM
Whipstitch Sometimes being too quick to escalate is an issue ... Apr 29 2010, 08:28 PM
Wandering One Part of the issue, offhand, is most characters, in... Apr 30 2010, 12:29 AM
Mongoose QUOTE (Wandering One @ Apr 30 2010, 12:29... Apr 30 2010, 02:37 AM
Whipstitch QUOTE (Wandering One @ Apr 29 2010, 07:29... Apr 30 2010, 06:07 AM
Ascalaphus QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Apr 30 2010, 07:07 AM... Apr 30 2010, 09:50 AM
Kagetenshi Again, though, the question that raises is why are... Apr 30 2010, 01:15 AM
tagz This is precisely why I suggest that you don't... Apr 30 2010, 01:22 AM
Triggvi the problem with one dimensional characters is tha... Apr 30 2010, 05:40 AM
toturi QUOTE (Triggvi @ Apr 30 2010, 01:40 PM) t... Apr 30 2010, 07:13 AM
Wandering One QUOTE (toturi @ Apr 30 2010, 12:13 AM) On... Apr 30 2010, 04:55 PM
Cardul See, I always break down the level of Security res... Apr 30 2010, 11:45 AM
Triggvi QUOTE (Cardul @ Apr 30 2010, 11:45 AM) Se... Apr 30 2010, 05:02 PM
Smokeskin Overkill? Even today, someone barricading themselv... Apr 30 2010, 05:17 PM
Wandering One QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Apr 30 2010, 10:17 AM)... Apr 30 2010, 05:59 PM

Manunancy QUOTE (Wandering One @ Apr 30 2010, 07:59... Apr 30 2010, 11:10 PM

Wandering One QUOTE (Manunancy @ Apr 30 2010, 04:10 PM)... Apr 30 2010, 11:16 PM
Triggvi QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Apr 30 2010, 05:17 PM)... Apr 30 2010, 09:28 PM
Whipstitch QUOTE (Triggvi @ Apr 30 2010, 04:28 PM) n... Apr 30 2010, 11:52 PM

Triggvi QUOTE (Whipstitch @ May 1 2010, 12:52 AM)... May 1 2010, 12:24 AM
Smokeskin QUOTE (Triggvi @ Apr 30 2010, 10:28 PM) n... May 1 2010, 08:20 AM
Angelone It's been said before but I'll say it as w... Apr 30 2010, 06:35 PM
Wandering One QUOTE (Angelone @ Apr 30 2010, 11:35 AM) ... Apr 30 2010, 07:07 PM
Draco18s QUOTE (Wandering One @ Apr 30 2010, 03:07... Apr 30 2010, 07:24 PM
Triggvi My point is that security is relevant to where you... Apr 30 2010, 11:28 PM
Whipstitch QUOTE (Triggvi @ Apr 30 2010, 07:24 PM) T... May 1 2010, 12:34 AM
Triggvi QUOTE (Whipstitch @ May 1 2010, 01:34 AM)... May 1 2010, 12:43 AM
Demon_Bob The Corps responce to shadowrunners should be bais... May 1 2010, 12:49 AM
Triggvi QUOTE (Demon_Bob @ May 1 2010, 01:49 AM) ... May 1 2010, 01:42 AM
Angelone This arguement pops up every once in awhile and I ... May 1 2010, 10:20 AM
Smokeskin QUOTE (Angelone @ May 1 2010, 11:20 AM) E... May 1 2010, 04:01 PM

Draco18s QUOTE (Smokeskin @ May 1 2010, 12:01 PM) ... May 1 2010, 04:17 PM
Manunancy QUOTE (Angelone @ May 1 2010, 12:20 PM) T... May 2 2010, 09:41 AM
Whipstitch Yeah, I tend to think of security forces as being ... May 1 2010, 09:00 PM
Demon_Bob Police responce should depend on the area you live... May 1 2010, 09:49 PM
Glyph What I find unrealistic is the notion that killing... May 2 2010, 08:43 PM
Whipstitch Cameras and storage is cheap but the time and effo... May 2 2010, 09:01 PM
Glyph Exactly. Runner's Companion emphasizes that t... May 2 2010, 09:17 PM![]() ![]() |
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