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Kazuhiro
post Apr 26 2010, 08:30 PM
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Players whose approach to character creation makes it seem like they just finished a runthrough of Gears of War 2 and have forgotten the point of Shadowrun present a unique problem. One of my players, and I'm sure you've all had characters like this in your games, is playing a character whose primary ability is shooting people very hard without dying. He's not sneaky, knowledgeable, tech savvy, charming, Awakened, or well connected.

In Shadowrun, these people stand far apart from the people who are of different archetypes. Fully automatic fire, as we all know, is incredibly destructive. But generally, 1) it's a bad idea to have the streetsam fighting off corp-sec all by himself and 2) when the other characters are sneaking, astral projecting, and hacking, they don't appreciate this guy counting up his modifiers for firing off a 12-round burst of EX-EX from his heavily modified Ares Alpha.

He has silencers when he needs them, but generally every time you kill someone, you risk getting caught in the act. What do characters like this do when they aren't allowed to cause wanton destruction?
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- Kazuhiro   Giving the massive kill-machine a job   Apr 26 2010, 08:30 PM
- - Kyrel   Very simple. They have a problem. Or challenge i...   Apr 26 2010, 08:38 PM
- - Banaticus   If the other PC's in the group are really so s...   Apr 26 2010, 08:41 PM
- - Kazuhiro   Well, as a GM what should I do with him? He enjoys...   Apr 26 2010, 08:47 PM
|- - Wandering One   QUOTE (Kazuhiro @ Apr 26 2010, 01:47 PM) ...   Apr 26 2010, 08:55 PM
- - Draco18s   Drop a bridge on them. I had a GM do that before ...   Apr 26 2010, 11:00 PM
- - tagz   I have a policy not to radically alter the securit...   Apr 26 2010, 11:16 PM
- - ClemulusRex   While there is certainly a place in the Sixth Worl...   Apr 27 2010, 01:28 AM
- - AndyZ   There's a few ways to handle this but it depen...   Apr 27 2010, 02:02 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Sometimes nothing helps a clean exit like security...   Apr 27 2010, 02:04 AM
- - Shot   It does seem as though your friend made the oddly ...   Apr 27 2010, 03:10 AM
- - BlueMax   The point of Shadowrun isn't something I consi...   Apr 27 2010, 03:32 AM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Apr 26 2010, 10:32 PM) T...   Apr 27 2010, 07:30 AM
|- - ClemulusRex   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Apr 27 2010, 07:30 AM...   Apr 27 2010, 12:28 PM
- - The Jopp   Let him babysit an entire daycare center. Put the...   Apr 27 2010, 07:13 AM
- - Ascalaphus   Does he feel like he needs* all that fighting powe...   Apr 27 2010, 07:26 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Apr 27 2010, 03:26 PM...   Apr 27 2010, 07:42 AM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (toturi @ Apr 27 2010, 08:42 AM) Ah...   Apr 27 2010, 07:57 AM
- - Smokeskin   So he created a one-dimensional character. Ok, he...   Apr 27 2010, 08:14 AM
- - wind_in_the_stones   Kazuhiro, is it just you that has a problem with t...   Apr 28 2010, 04:02 AM
|- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (wind_in_the_stones @ Apr 28 2010, 12...   Apr 28 2010, 03:56 PM
|- - Eratosthenes   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Apr 28 2010, 11:56 AM...   Apr 28 2010, 03:59 PM
|- - wind_in_the_stones   QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Apr 28 2010, 10:59 ...   Apr 29 2010, 04:38 AM
- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Apr 28 2010, 04:56 PM...   Apr 28 2010, 05:01 PM
- - Kagetenshi   But that reputation isn't enhanced by being se...   Apr 28 2010, 08:27 PM
- - Whipstitch   Yeah, Mitsuhama picked up that kinda rep by killin...   Apr 29 2010, 03:04 AM
- - Whipstitch   I don't really buy into that explanation much....   Apr 29 2010, 06:13 AM
|- - Eratosthenes   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Apr 29 2010, 01:13 AM...   Apr 29 2010, 01:54 PM
|- - CeeJay   QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Apr 29 2010, 03:54 ...   Apr 29 2010, 02:24 PM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Apr 29 2010, 08:54 ...   Apr 29 2010, 07:37 PM
- - Smokeskin   There is no universal solution here. On the downs...   Apr 29 2010, 02:57 PM
- - Kagetenshi   But the important thing is that the value of reven...   Apr 29 2010, 04:19 PM
- - Triggvi   When you have one dimensional character, challenge...   Apr 29 2010, 04:37 PM
- - Mongoose   I don't see why combat capable characters so o...   Apr 29 2010, 05:19 PM
|- - Eratosthenes   QUOTE (Mongoose @ Apr 29 2010, 01:19 PM) ...   Apr 29 2010, 05:46 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Mongoose @ Apr 29 2010, 06:19 PM) ...   Apr 29 2010, 08:09 PM
||- - Mongoose   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Apr 29 2010, 09:09 PM)...   Apr 29 2010, 11:26 PM
|||- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Mongoose @ Apr 30 2010, 12:26 AM) ...   Apr 30 2010, 08:04 AM
|||- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Apr 30 2010, 03:04 AM)...   Apr 30 2010, 11:58 AM
|||- - Wandering One   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Apr 30 2010, 04:58 AM...   Apr 30 2010, 04:57 PM
||- - Mongoose   damn easy to double post here...   Apr 29 2010, 11:26 PM
|- - wind_in_the_stones   QUOTE (Mongoose @ Apr 29 2010, 12:19 PM) ...   Apr 30 2010, 12:45 AM
- - Kagetenshi   I'm not familiar with how SR4 Initiative makes...   Apr 29 2010, 05:59 PM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Apr 29 2010, 06:59 PM...   Apr 29 2010, 06:27 PM
- - Whipstitch   Sometimes being too quick to escalate is an issue ...   Apr 29 2010, 08:28 PM
- - Wandering One   Part of the issue, offhand, is most characters, in...   Apr 30 2010, 12:29 AM
|- - Mongoose   QUOTE (Wandering One @ Apr 30 2010, 12:29...   Apr 30 2010, 02:37 AM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Wandering One @ Apr 29 2010, 07:29...   Apr 30 2010, 06:07 AM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Apr 30 2010, 07:07 AM...   Apr 30 2010, 09:50 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Again, though, the question that raises is why are...   Apr 30 2010, 01:15 AM
- - tagz   This is precisely why I suggest that you don't...   Apr 30 2010, 01:22 AM
- - Triggvi   the problem with one dimensional characters is tha...   Apr 30 2010, 05:40 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Triggvi @ Apr 30 2010, 01:40 PM) t...   Apr 30 2010, 07:13 AM
|- - Wandering One   QUOTE (toturi @ Apr 30 2010, 12:13 AM) On...   Apr 30 2010, 04:55 PM
- - Cardul   See, I always break down the level of Security res...   Apr 30 2010, 11:45 AM
|- - Triggvi   QUOTE (Cardul @ Apr 30 2010, 11:45 AM) Se...   Apr 30 2010, 05:02 PM
- - Smokeskin   Overkill? Even today, someone barricading themselv...   Apr 30 2010, 05:17 PM
|- - Wandering One   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Apr 30 2010, 10:17 AM)...   Apr 30 2010, 05:59 PM
||- - Manunancy   QUOTE (Wandering One @ Apr 30 2010, 07:59...   Apr 30 2010, 11:10 PM
||- - Wandering One   QUOTE (Manunancy @ Apr 30 2010, 04:10 PM)...   Apr 30 2010, 11:16 PM
|- - Triggvi   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Apr 30 2010, 05:17 PM)...   Apr 30 2010, 09:28 PM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Triggvi @ Apr 30 2010, 04:28 PM) n...   Apr 30 2010, 11:52 PM
||- - Triggvi   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ May 1 2010, 12:52 AM)...   May 1 2010, 12:24 AM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Triggvi @ Apr 30 2010, 10:28 PM) n...   May 1 2010, 08:20 AM
- - Angelone   It's been said before but I'll say it as w...   Apr 30 2010, 06:35 PM
|- - Wandering One   QUOTE (Angelone @ Apr 30 2010, 11:35 AM) ...   Apr 30 2010, 07:07 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Wandering One @ Apr 30 2010, 03:07...   Apr 30 2010, 07:24 PM
- - Triggvi   My point is that security is relevant to where you...   Apr 30 2010, 11:28 PM
- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Triggvi @ Apr 30 2010, 07:24 PM) T...   May 1 2010, 12:34 AM
|- - Triggvi   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ May 1 2010, 01:34 AM)...   May 1 2010, 12:43 AM
- - Demon_Bob   The Corps responce to shadowrunners should be bais...   May 1 2010, 12:49 AM
|- - Triggvi   QUOTE (Demon_Bob @ May 1 2010, 01:49 AM) ...   May 1 2010, 01:42 AM
- - Angelone   This arguement pops up every once in awhile and I ...   May 1 2010, 10:20 AM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Angelone @ May 1 2010, 11:20 AM) E...   May 1 2010, 04:01 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ May 1 2010, 12:01 PM) ...   May 1 2010, 04:17 PM
|- - Manunancy   QUOTE (Angelone @ May 1 2010, 12:20 PM) T...   May 2 2010, 09:41 AM
- - Whipstitch   Yeah, I tend to think of security forces as being ...   May 1 2010, 09:00 PM
- - Demon_Bob   Police responce should depend on the area you live...   May 1 2010, 09:49 PM
- - Glyph   What I find unrealistic is the notion that killing...   May 2 2010, 08:43 PM
- - Whipstitch   Cameras and storage is cheap but the time and effo...   May 2 2010, 09:01 PM
- - Glyph   Exactly. Runner's Companion emphasizes that t...   May 2 2010, 09:17 PM


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