Jun 30 2010, 09:20 PM
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The rule reads: "Effects depend on the drug payload, but to successfully deliver the payload and penetrate armor, the attacker needs two net hits on the Ranged Combat Opposed Test."
The AP for both the Parashield Dart Pistol and Rifle is -2, as is the damage for both "As Drug/Toxin". Lastly, for this example, let us select Narcojet, with a power 10 and penetration of 0. So, my attack scores 4 hits with the Parashield Rifle. My target would get to react (Reaction) or dodge (Reaction + Dodge) to reduce my hit to 1 or less to negate my attack. If my attack retains 2 or more hits, would my target would then get to resist damage, as they would with a normal attack? This assumes that damage of the attack, when listed "As Drug/Toxin", is the same as the power, in this case Narcojet. I have to assume since the rules never flatly state that damage and power are synonymous, but I am of the opinion that this is a safe assumption. So, does my target now resist the 10 power and net hits of my attack with Body and Impact Armour Rating? Do they receive any bonuses from toxin resistance for this test, or is there a follow up Toxin Resistance test if the damage isn't reduced to nothing? If there is a follow up test, is the power of the toxin the original amount, 10 for Narcojet, or is the power value equal to the remaining damage from the damage test previously? Since the injection dart has no inherent damage value, and the book never states that damage and power are the same; I have to assume the system required to resolve the action. Is there printed errata? Is there previous intent? Can you help, please? |
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Floyd The Injection Dart Jun 30 2010, 09:20 PM
Gamer6432 QUOTE (SR4A pg. 254)Power
The Power of a toxin rep... Jun 30 2010, 09:25 PM
Dumori I believe you then apply the toxin as it had been ... Jun 30 2010, 09:27 PM
Floyd Alright, Gamer, How would you resolve the weapon... Jun 30 2010, 09:29 PM
Dumori QUOTE (Floyd @ Jun 30 2010, 10:29 PM) Tha... Jun 30 2010, 09:34 PM
Gamer6432 Sorry I forgot the commentary with the re-post of ... Jun 30 2010, 09:44 PM
nemafow Could the -AP apply to toxin protection from armor... Jul 1 2010, 12:02 AM
DrZaius QUOTE (nemafow @ Jun 30 2010, 08:02 PM) C... Jul 1 2010, 01:56 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (DrZaius @ Jun 30 2010, 06:56 PM) I... Jul 1 2010, 02:01 AM
DrZaius QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 30 2010, 10... Jul 1 2010, 02:05 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (DrZaius @ Jun 30 2010, 07:05 PM) S... Jul 1 2010, 02:40 AM
Yerameyahu Better playtest it a little. Jul 1 2010, 02:28 AM
Yerameyahu I never even knew about 'must have 2 net hits... Jul 1 2010, 02:41 AM
Dumori How ever as it dose no damage. Any armour will sto... Jul 1 2010, 02:42 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Dumori @ Jun 30 2010, 07:42 PM) Ho... Jul 1 2010, 02:45 AM
The Monk QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 30 2010, 09... Jul 1 2010, 03:00 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (The Monk @ Jun 30 2010, 08:00 PM) ... Jul 1 2010, 03:04 AM
Yerameyahu Well, if you're going that route, 0P isn't... Jul 1 2010, 02:55 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 30 2010, 07:55 PM... Jul 1 2010, 02:57 AM
Yerameyahu Because, no one is going to get 14 net hits with t... Jul 1 2010, 02:58 AM
Yerameyahu Well, as I said, I *don't* think the 'must... Jul 1 2010, 03:06 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 30 2010, 08:06 PM... Jul 1 2010, 03:09 AM
The Monk How about give the dart a damage code, add in the ... Jul 1 2010, 03:07 AM
Yerameyahu I think we're looking at why it doesn't re... Jul 1 2010, 03:10 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 30 2010, 08:10 PM... Jul 1 2010, 03:11 AM
Yerameyahu … You're messing with me, right? We're dis... Jul 1 2010, 03:14 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 30 2010, 08:14 PM... Jul 1 2010, 03:17 AM
Yerameyahu But I just specifically stated that the 'Need ... Jul 1 2010, 03:22 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 30 2010, 08:22 PM... Jul 1 2010, 03:27 AM
Yerameyahu Right, except it's definitely SUPER wonky. You... Jul 1 2010, 03:30 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 30 2010, 08:30 PM... Jul 1 2010, 03:32 AM
The Monk QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 30 2010, 11... Jul 1 2010, 04:22 AM
Shinobi Killfist The AP makes me think they had another rule in min... Jul 1 2010, 04:21 AM
Yerameyahu That might be much much compensation: typical Impa... Jul 1 2010, 05:01 AM
Combat Mage The implanted dartgun from augmentation has the ru... Jul 1 2010, 05:08 AM
Yerameyahu Maybe that's where I got it in my head, thanks... Jul 1 2010, 05:10 AM
Lansdren Whilst I like the dart gun for fluff reasons I fin... Jul 1 2010, 09:01 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Lansdren @ Jul 1 2010, 03:01 AM) W... Jul 1 2010, 11:39 PM
Lansdren QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 2 2010, 12... Jul 2 2010, 08:56 AM
Wasabi Slab REALLY needs a published onset time. If Slab ... Jul 1 2010, 11:08 AM
Traul It should at least be at the end of the Initiative... Jul 1 2010, 11:22 AM
Gamer6432 The book states that drugs always take effect at t... Jul 1 2010, 04:20 PM
Traul My bad, I got the terms confused. But well, you ge... Jul 1 2010, 05:11 PM
Yerameyahu I think it makes more sense for Slab to work slow-... Jul 2 2010, 03:16 PM
Lansdren QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 2 2010, 04:16 PM)... Jul 2 2010, 03:45 PM
Yerameyahu Pointing out that there's a problem with tranq... Jul 2 2010, 03:52 PM
sabs I have a question about the Injection dats and 2 n... Jul 2 2010, 04:33 PM
KarmaInferno Wait, darts are impervious to love?
They must be ... Jul 3 2010, 04:08 AM
Warlordtheft IIRC the old narcojet pistol (SR2) required the at... Jul 2 2010, 04:50 PM
Yerameyahu That's essentially just doing a Called Shot to... Jul 2 2010, 09:30 PM
McCummhail The blowgun in arsenal requires a called shot to b... Jul 2 2010, 09:57 PM
Yerameyahu The blowgun, I assume, has explicit rules. So does... Jul 3 2010, 12:13 AM
Saint Sithney Why not base the "must damage" off somet... Jul 3 2010, 03:50 AM
Yerameyahu So, firearm darts do 1P/-half *then* -2, darts mus... Jul 3 2010, 03:55 AM![]() ![]() |
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