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ting-bu-dong
post Feb 29 2004, 06:04 AM
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Hi,
we were playing Shadowrun last night and one question from a player came up and since nobody in our group really knows much about astral physics, I thought I post it here to see what others think of it.

Basically, in the material space everything with mass is solid and energies are not. In the astral space, awakened life is solid but mass is not.

Therefore, there are no guns in astral space. But would this hybrid approach work:

If you coat a gun with awakened dual matter, like a liquid that contains awakened bacteria or so, and use capsule ammunition filled with the same material, could an astral body be able to hold the dual matter and therefore the gun as the gun sticks to the material part of the dual matter? This would allow an astral body to carry this gun which would effectively be dualnatured. Therefore security guards would have to face a floating gun without a visible wielder.

Now, if the ammunition was filled with dual-natured matter too, would an astral body that is hit by this ammunition be harmed as well? Could security guards use capsule ammunition filled with awakened matter to get rid of astral intruders?

The question came up because there is only one character with astral mobility in the group and as an elk shaman he is not very skilled at astral combat. Unfortunately, the main antagonist behind the scenes is an ant shaman that likes to lurk on the astral plane.

Would this work?

tbd
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- ting-bu-dong   guns from astral space   Feb 29 2004, 06:04 AM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   No, you cannot hurt an astral spirit by shooting i...   Feb 29 2004, 06:12 AM
- - John Campbell   Personally, I don't see any reason that a ward...   Feb 29 2004, 06:33 AM
- - Entropy Kid   No, it wouldn't work. Only magical gear (foci...   Feb 29 2004, 06:34 AM
- - Lilt   I'd say No to focus-guns (it's explicitly ...   Feb 29 2004, 11:14 AM
- - toturi   I'll say no to guns as a foci as you have desc...   Feb 29 2004, 12:04 PM
- - Entropy Kid   The target would make a Charisma (Force) test need...   Feb 29 2004, 12:17 PM
- - Nikoli   Another thought, with the FAB coated weapon, you m...   Feb 29 2004, 02:27 PM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (Entropy Kid)An astral "bullet" co...   Feb 29 2004, 02:33 PM
- - John Campbell   QUOTE (Nikoli) Another thought, with the FAB coate...   Feb 29 2004, 05:46 PM
- - Kanada Ten   QUOTE Best case, it'll push you in front of it...   Mar 1 2004, 01:17 AM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE The bullet would simply displace the being i...   Mar 1 2004, 01:30 AM
- - moosegod   QUOTE (Cochise) QUOTE (Entropy Kid)An astral ...   Mar 1 2004, 01:32 AM
- - Kanada Ten   QUOTE BitBasher And since astral beings move at th...   Mar 1 2004, 02:03 AM
- - toturi   So if a warded vehicle runs into an astral form ci...   Mar 1 2004, 02:07 AM
- - Kanada Ten   Asking me? The city spirit. Unless it trys to forc...   Mar 1 2004, 02:09 AM
- - Large Mike   I thought this was covered way back when someone c...   Mar 1 2004, 02:13 AM
- - moosegod   Balance? bah! Who wants balance?   Mar 1 2004, 02:14 AM
- - Entropy Kid   and to complicate things further... The only exis...   Mar 1 2004, 02:43 AM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (moosegod)Well, I don't think that would...   Mar 1 2004, 02:51 AM
- - moosegod   No, I mean that you have to bind a foci to you to ...   Mar 1 2004, 02:57 AM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE I don't understand what you mean. What w...   Mar 1 2004, 05:23 AM
- - Cain   You *could* make the bullet an anchoring focus; bu...   Mar 1 2004, 06:42 AM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (moosegod)No, I mean that you have to bind a...   Mar 1 2004, 06:52 AM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Cochise) Spells however only exist on the p...   Mar 1 2004, 07:26 AM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (Zazen)That's a subject of great debate,...   Mar 1 2004, 11:08 AM
- - The Jopp   My opinion on Weapon Foci. Ok, first of all, what...   Mar 1 2004, 01:29 PM
- - Zazen   QUOTE I'd say that the plane that they "e...   Mar 1 2004, 04:49 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Ok, first of all, what is a weapon foci? It ...   Mar 1 2004, 06:09 PM
- - The Jopp   Ok, according to canon you can ONLY use it in Mele...   Mar 1 2004, 10:01 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE I don't really get that part, WHY can...   Mar 1 2004, 10:28 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE I don't really get that part, WHY can...   Mar 2 2004, 03:05 AM


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