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post Jul 24 2010, 07:32 AM
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1) As far as I can see, it's cheaper to take a level of Submersion and a point of Resonance than to simply take that last point of Resonance. Is this correct or am I missing something:
Example: From 5/6 Resonance to 6/6 Resonance costs 25 points. Taking a level of Submersion and buying the Resonance gets you to 6/7 Resonance, gives you and Echo and costs 23 points. Going to 7/8 Resonance from there would cost only 26 points (as compared to 7/7's 25 points) but I wouldn't turn down another Echo for the cost of a single BP.

2) Do Dronomancers need control rigs? As far as I can tell, the control rig exists as a set of inputs and feedback for the node that is connected to the drone. It seems to me that the control rig isn't even connected in any conventional way to the the node that is the will of the Dronomancers/Technomancer. As I read the rules on it, I'm not even sure it gives it's +2 to Dronomancers.
"The control rig provides a +2 dice pool bonus on all Vehicle skill tests while the rigger is “jumped into” a vehicle/drone via full virtual reality. This bonus does not apply to other drone manipulation through the Matrix. Is what a Dronomancer does considered full VR or is it something beyond that?

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- suoq   Dronomancer/Technomancer questions   Jul 24 2010, 07:32 AM
- - Laodicea   yup. Same goes for magic users.   Jul 24 2010, 07:33 AM
- - Udoshi   Dronomancers do NOT need a control rig. in 4th, it...   Jul 24 2010, 07:39 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jul 24 2010, 08:39 AM) an...   Jul 25 2010, 10:09 AM
|- - MortVent   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jul 25 2010, 05:09 AM) Mi...   Jul 25 2010, 12:33 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (MortVent @ Jul 25 2010, 12:33 PM) ...   Jul 25 2010, 12:43 PM
|- - MortVent   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jul 25 2010, 07:43 AM) A ...   Jul 25 2010, 12:50 PM
- - Neraph   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 24 2010, 02:32 AM) 1) A...   Jul 24 2010, 07:49 AM
- - Karoline   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 24 2010, 02:32 AM) 1) A...   Jul 24 2010, 04:17 PM
- - Sengir   OK, so you think it's possible to get another ...   Jul 25 2010, 12:54 PM
|- - MortVent   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jul 25 2010, 07:54 AM) OK...   Jul 25 2010, 12:58 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (MortVent @ Jul 25 2010, 12:58 PM) ...   Jul 25 2010, 01:09 PM
|- - MortVent   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jul 25 2010, 08:09 AM) A ...   Jul 25 2010, 01:12 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (MortVent @ Jul 25 2010, 02:12 PM) ...   Jul 25 2010, 01:17 PM
|- - MortVent   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jul 25 2010, 08:17 AM) Do...   Jul 25 2010, 01:21 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (MortVent @ Jul 25 2010, 08:21 AM) ...   Jul 25 2010, 01:52 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (MortVent @ Jul 25 2010, 01:21 PM) ...   Jul 25 2010, 02:26 PM
- - MortVent   forgot about the immersion echo, hadn't really...   Jul 25 2010, 01:56 PM
- - Yerameyahu   What exactly is the argument here? There's the...   Jul 25 2010, 07:25 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 25 2010, 03:25 PM...   Jul 25 2010, 07:26 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Oh, I see it now. Thanks! Carry on. And, sha...   Jul 25 2010, 07:28 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 25 2010, 02:28 PM...   Jul 26 2010, 06:50 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 25 2010, 12:28 PM...   Jul 26 2010, 07:28 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jul 26 2010, 09:28 AM) A ...   Jul 26 2010, 08:16 AM
||- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 26 2010, 01:16 AM) Thats...   Jul 26 2010, 12:48 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jul 26 2010, 03:28 AM) It...   Jul 26 2010, 12:58 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jul 26 2010, 05:58 AM) ...   Jul 26 2010, 10:21 PM
- - Saint Sithney   I've always thought that software emulation of...   Jul 26 2010, 08:38 AM
- - Wasabi   Just remember most actions takes longer when using...   Jul 26 2010, 11:05 AM
- - Saint Sithney   Anything less than a full burst is a cop-out.   Jul 26 2010, 11:21 AM
- - MortVent   With command being a complex action, most will use...   Jul 26 2010, 11:30 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (MortVent @ Jul 26 2010, 07:30 AM) ...   Jul 26 2010, 10:10 PM
|- - MortVent   QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 26 2010, 05:10 PM) funn...   Jul 26 2010, 10:17 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (MortVent @ Jul 26 2010, 05:17 PM) ...   Jul 27 2010, 01:26 AM
|- - MortVent   QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 26 2010, 08:26 PM) the ...   Jul 27 2010, 03:00 AM
||- - Jaid   QUOTE (MortVent @ Jul 26 2010, 11:00 PM) ...   Jul 27 2010, 06:16 AM
||- - suoq   QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 27 2010, 12:16 AM) we...   Jul 27 2010, 02:18 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 26 2010, 09:26 PM) seri...   Jul 27 2010, 07:07 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I didn't mean it was an *identical* replacemen...   Jul 26 2010, 03:13 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yup, that's why Technomancer pools should be c...   Jul 27 2010, 01:29 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I don't understand what you're arguing aga...   Jul 27 2010, 03:06 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Rigging dodge, not meat dodge.   Jul 27 2010, 08:40 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 27 2010, 04:40 PM...   Jul 27 2010, 08:44 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jul 27 2010, 04:44 PM) ...   Jul 27 2010, 08:50 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Jumped-In dodge pool is Command, so I assume that...   Jul 27 2010, 08:49 PM
- - Karoline   No, command doesn't allow you to dodge for the...   Jul 27 2010, 09:02 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jul 27 2010, 05:02 PM) ...   Jul 27 2010, 09:17 PM
- - Yerameyahu   *shrug* Check the chart: Jumped-In Defense is Comm...   Jul 27 2010, 09:17 PM
- - DireRadiant   p. 245 Sr4A Under "ISSUING COMMANDS" ...   Jul 27 2010, 09:18 PM
- - DireRadiant   That "Issue Command (p. 245 )" is actual...   Jul 27 2010, 09:20 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I edited my posts, so I hope I didn't confuse ...   Jul 27 2010, 09:22 PM
- - Karoline   I can't find the handy chart that says what DP...   Jul 27 2010, 09:40 PM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jul 27 2010, 02:40 PM) ...   Jul 28 2010, 07:41 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jul 28 2010, 03:41...   Jul 28 2010, 01:07 PM
- - Udoshi   No, Issue Command, a Simple Action tells a drone t...   Jul 28 2010, 12:42 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jul 27 2010, 07:42 PM) On...   Jul 28 2010, 12:52 AM
- - Yerameyahu   So use Full Auto.   Jul 28 2010, 12:45 AM
- - Udoshi   Actually, Perception Tests DO require a complex ac...   Jul 28 2010, 12:54 AM
- - Yerameyahu   So. It's a minor tradeoff, for massive single-...   Jul 28 2010, 12:55 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 27 2010, 05:55 PM...   Jul 28 2010, 12:58 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jul 27 2010, 07:58 PM) Ob...   Jul 28 2010, 01:06 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jul 27 2010, 07:58 PM) Al...   Jul 28 2010, 02:02 AM
- - Yerameyahu   No, I think it was CF to 12, and then Sprite'd...   Jul 28 2010, 01:04 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 27 2010, 06:04 PM...   Jul 28 2010, 01:59 AM
- - Yerameyahu   That's ridiculous. *If* you're distracted,...   Jul 28 2010, 02:01 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 27 2010, 07:01 PM...   Jul 28 2010, 02:02 AM
- - Udoshi   Not exactly, Jaid. If you Thread a complex form, w...   Jul 28 2010, 02:07 AM
- - Karoline   QUOTE When using most of the skills in the Stealth...   Jul 28 2010, 02:07 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Udoshi, there's nothing to prove. It's tot...   Jul 28 2010, 02:11 AM
- - Karoline   Udoshi has a good point about the threading. The ...   Jul 28 2010, 02:11 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Ah, well there you go. Still, a 12 as an (actually...   Jul 28 2010, 02:14 AM
- - Udoshi   Man, Karoline. you left out bits I'd quoted ea...   Jul 28 2010, 02:23 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jul 27 2010, 09:23 PM) Ma...   Jul 28 2010, 02:33 AM
- - Yerameyahu   My point is that passive perception is super relia...   Jul 28 2010, 02:54 AM
- - Yerameyahu   -2 for Remote Operation?   Jul 28 2010, 03:47 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 28 2010, 11:47 AM...   Jul 28 2010, 04:15 PM
- - Yerameyahu   OH, he's talking about medicine. Sorry!   Jul 28 2010, 04:33 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 28 2010, 12:33 PM...   Jul 28 2010, 04:43 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Right, I had it in my head that we were still talk...   Jul 28 2010, 04:59 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 28 2010, 12:59 PM...   Jul 28 2010, 08:08 PM
- - sabs   Given that the drone would have to be a medic dron...   Jul 28 2010, 08:11 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (sabs @ Jul 28 2010, 04:11 PM) Give...   Jul 29 2010, 07:01 AM
- - Saint Sithney   Yup, your typical medkit is also somehow a drone o...   Jul 29 2010, 11:29 AM
- - Yerameyahu   You can remote-control a medkit? :/   Jul 29 2010, 01:20 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 29 2010, 08:20 AM...   Jul 29 2010, 01:44 PM
- - sabs   WHy do you have to round up all drones have 4 modi...   Jul 29 2010, 02:00 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (sabs @ Jul 29 2010, 05:00 PM) WHy ...   Jul 29 2010, 05:03 PM
- - sabs   weapon mount: normal size 1 Turret Flexibility: +...   Jul 29 2010, 05:50 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (sabs @ Jul 29 2010, 11:50 AM) weap...   Jul 30 2010, 09:38 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's not a question of mod slots. Weapon mount...   Jul 29 2010, 06:09 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 29 2010, 01:09 PM...   Jul 29 2010, 09:09 PM
- - Saint Sithney   Does 0 body round up to one still?   Jul 30 2010, 02:29 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jul 29 2010, 10:29...   Jul 30 2010, 02:31 AM
- - Wraith235   one thing I am having difficulty finding (I appol...   Aug 20 2010, 02:28 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Why would they have Resonance Trodes, for one? Bu...   Aug 20 2010, 02:56 AM
- - Wraith235   hmmmm thought I read somewhere they couldnt use no...   Aug 20 2010, 03:06 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Indeed, I'm not sure about the trodes. However...   Aug 20 2010, 03:19 AM
- - Wraith235   Wiretap drones sound like the best way to go since...   Aug 20 2010, 03:26 AM
- - Yerameyahu   And if there physically is no wireless, they make ...   Aug 20 2010, 03:29 AM
- - Wraith235   wouldnt a commlink Limit the Living persona ... Co...   Aug 20 2010, 03:32 AM
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