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post Jul 29 2010, 08:15 PM
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On p.319 SR4A it is explained that sniper rifles used in running gunfights tend to break (every combat turn results in an edge test, each failed test incurs a -1 modifier until recalibrated) with the exception of the Walther MA-2100. However, there is no mention of this rule in Arsenal. Some of the guns in Arsenal are described as being for military use, etc, but no mention of this 'sniper rifle hardening' is mentioned. So, is it possible to go about hardening a sniper rifle for use in a firefight? Would melee hardening (p.152 Arsenal) cover this or would that merely prevent the gun from being destroyed by melee attack?

I'm interested in how people generally deal with sniper rifles and their capacity for lethal destruction in their campaigns and what, if any, mods help keep them from breaking in your average runner's gunfight.
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- The Grue Master   Sniper Rifles In Combat   Jul 29 2010, 08:15 PM
- - Doc Chase   The Walther's speshul because the barrel isn...   Jul 29 2010, 08:26 PM
- - kzt   Using sniper rifles in close combat is dumb. They...   Jul 29 2010, 08:33 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (kzt @ Jul 29 2010, 08:33 PM) Using...   Jul 29 2010, 08:36 PM
|- - Voran   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 29 2010, 04:36 PM)...   Jul 29 2010, 09:16 PM
|- - The Grue Master   QUOTE (Voran @ Jul 29 2010, 05:16 PM) On ...   Jul 29 2010, 09:17 PM
||- - Caadium   QUOTE (The Grue Master @ Jul 29 2010, 01...   Jul 29 2010, 09:59 PM
||- - The Grue Master   QUOTE (Caadium @ Jul 29 2010, 05:59 PM) I...   Jul 29 2010, 10:05 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Voran @ Jul 29 2010, 10:16 PM) Heh...   Jul 29 2010, 09:32 PM
- - Sludig   Actually, Melee hardenting would do nothing. Snip...   Jul 29 2010, 08:36 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Sludig @ Jul 29 2010, 10:36 PM) Ac...   Jul 29 2010, 09:25 PM
- - The Grue Master   I agree with what all of you are saying but becaus...   Jul 29 2010, 08:49 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (The Grue Master @ Jul 29 2010, 01...   Jul 29 2010, 08:59 PM
|- - The Grue Master   QUOTE (kzt @ Jul 29 2010, 04:59 PM) The D...   Jul 29 2010, 09:01 PM
- - Doc Chase   To best emphasize the unwieldy nature of the snipe...   Jul 29 2010, 08:56 PM
|- - X-Kalibur   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 29 2010, 01:56 PM)...   Jul 29 2010, 09:38 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Jul 29 2010, 09:3...   Jul 29 2010, 09:43 PM
|- - X-Kalibur   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 29 2010, 02:43 PM)...   Jul 29 2010, 09:45 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Jul 29 2010, 09:4...   Jul 29 2010, 09:46 PM
- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (The Grue Master @ Jul 29 2010, 10...   Jul 29 2010, 09:36 PM
- - Dumori   If siniper rilfe D-zeroed that much theyd be usele...   Jul 29 2010, 09:45 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Nothing wrong with the RAW for sniper rifles. If a...   Jul 29 2010, 09:55 PM
- - Yerameyahu   There are a dozen flexible, general use, high prec...   Jul 29 2010, 10:07 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 30 2010, 12:07 AM...   Jul 29 2010, 10:23 PM
|- - X-Kalibur   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Jul 29 2010, 02:23 PM)...   Jul 29 2010, 10:35 PM
- - Dumori   The G3 has also been made in sniper configurations...   Jul 29 2010, 10:38 PM
- - The Grue Master   I posted a new topic with a few potential battle r...   Jul 29 2010, 10:41 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The G3 is not an assault rifle. It's a battle ...   Jul 29 2010, 11:52 PM
- - Cabral   Normally, if I'm not too knowledgeable on a su...   Aug 2 2010, 10:28 AM
|- - EKBT81   QUOTE (Cabral @ Aug 2 2010, 12:28 PM) A c...   Aug 2 2010, 01:17 PM
|- - Link   QUOTE (EKBT81 @ Aug 2 2010, 02:17 PM) Thi...   Aug 2 2010, 02:50 PM
- - Cabral   Edit: Double post after Dumpshock said it didn...   Aug 2 2010, 10:28 AM
- - The Jopp   Now, I know that a sniper rifle isnt meant for hip...   Aug 2 2010, 11:23 AM
- - Mäx   That rule on sniper rifles is by far the most stup...   Aug 2 2010, 12:05 PM
- - Runner Smurf   It's a silly rule, and one that should apply t...   Aug 2 2010, 12:30 PM
- - The Jopp   Just for fun I made the HK-XM30 'Transformer...   Aug 2 2010, 01:30 PM
- - Yerameyahu   In Shadowrun, there are no battle rifles, so the d...   Aug 2 2010, 01:43 PM
- - The Jopp   I find it interesting the the Elephant Rifle is ac...   Aug 2 2010, 02:14 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Aug 2 2010, 04:14 PM) I...   Aug 2 2010, 02:26 PM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 2 2010, 03:26 PM) Arsena...   Aug 2 2010, 02:37 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Aug 2 2010, 04:37 PM) I...   Aug 2 2010, 03:01 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 2 2010, 10:01 AM) No the...   Aug 2 2010, 03:22 PM
- - Yerameyahu   To me, the difference between the PJSS (do you thi...   Aug 2 2010, 02:55 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 2 2010, 03:55 PM)...   Aug 2 2010, 03:33 PM
- - CanRay   And now, there's the .700 Nitro Express. Look...   Aug 2 2010, 03:38 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Haha, nice. Anyway, I think we all see the point.   Aug 2 2010, 03:41 PM
- - CanRay   Unless you have a Smartgun Link on a sniper rifle,...   Aug 2 2010, 03:43 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 2 2010, 05:43 PM) Unl...   Aug 2 2010, 04:58 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yeah, that always bothered me in SR, because it...   Aug 2 2010, 03:52 PM
- - Draco18s   Sniper rifles need to have their damage code modif...   Aug 2 2010, 04:30 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 2 2010, 06:30 PM) S...   Aug 2 2010, 05:01 PM
- - Dumori   Really an imageing scope on a rifle could function...   Aug 2 2010, 06:06 PM
- - Voran   Heh, I've sorta felt that SR firearm use is mo...   Aug 3 2010, 11:00 AM
- - The Jopp   The only reason for when sniper rifles are even fe...   Aug 3 2010, 11:30 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Yes, we use a penalty for not using the stock (or ...   Aug 3 2010, 12:55 PM


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