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 Aug 12 2010, 04:40 PM
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Can somebody explain how counterspelling works?
Eg. 1. Two mages are throwing spells at each other. They both have counterspelling. Eg. 2. The team mage is counterspelling the team hacker. Can the mage defend himself while guarding the hacker? Eg. 3. The team is counterspelling for the the whole group. Eg. 4. The team mage is sustaining a shield spell while counterspelling. Does the -2 for sustaining apply on the counterspelling? |
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yesferatu Counterspelling Aug 12 2010, 04:40 PM
BlueMax 2. Yes
4. I think not, no books at hand...
Counte... Aug 12 2010, 04:44 PM Lanlaorn In all cases: You add the counterspelling dice to ... Aug 12 2010, 04:47 PM
Mäx QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Aug 12 2010, 06:47 PM) ... Aug 16 2010, 09:06 AM
Fatum QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Aug 12 2010, 08:47 PM) ... Aug 18 2010, 05:38 PM Neraph 1) They both get their full Counterspell to their ... Aug 12 2010, 04:53 PM yesferatu Cool.
So at the very least, the mage would never n... Aug 12 2010, 05:02 PM Neraph QUOTE (yesferatu @ Aug 12 2010, 11:02 AM)... Aug 12 2010, 05:06 PM yesferatu Although...in the case of direct spells, there is ... Aug 12 2010, 05:36 PM Neraph QUOTE (yesferatu @ Aug 12 2010, 11:36 AM)... Aug 13 2010, 04:27 AM LurkerOutThere Normally yes.
Basically you always get a personal... Aug 12 2010, 05:45 PM jimbo Definitely part of the problem is that out of all ... Aug 15 2010, 11:32 PM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (jimbo @ Aug 16 2010, 01:32 AM) Mor... Aug 19 2010, 11:13 AM jimbo QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Aug 19 2010, 06:13 A... Aug 19 2010, 10:17 PM LurkerOutThere Each turn, now a sane and reasonable GM would only... Aug 18 2010, 05:51 PM UmaroVI QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 18 2010, 12:5... Aug 19 2010, 12:58 PM X-Kalibur I would say that for the purpose of defense, that ... Aug 18 2010, 07:03 PM codemonkey_uk If the mage is not aware that a spell is being cas... Aug 19 2010, 12:51 PM LurkerOutThere Honestly we're getting into read the manual te... Aug 19 2010, 12:56 PM Summerstorm Yes... once declared it automagically goes against... Aug 19 2010, 01:02 PM LurkerOutThere No, that's not how it works. It is IIRC a flat... Aug 19 2010, 01:26 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 19 2010, 06:2... Aug 19 2010, 04:04 PM UmaroVI QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 19 2010, 09:2... Aug 19 2010, 06:56 PM yesferatu "Mages always get to add spell defense, it... Aug 19 2010, 03:29 PM LurkerOutThere You know i'd never realized that damage reduct... Aug 19 2010, 03:47 PM Lanlaorn High counterspelling is easy, you don't need t... Aug 19 2010, 05:52 PM LurkerOutThere As far as I can tell from the rules, specializatio... Aug 19 2010, 06:00 PM Lanlaorn QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 19 2010, 01:0... Aug 19 2010, 06:17 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Aug 19 2010, 10:17 AM) ... Aug 19 2010, 08:34 PM TBRMInsanity As a house rule, if the -2 dice penalty existed, I... Aug 19 2010, 06:04 PM LurkerOutThere It doesn't make centering less powerfull it ju... Aug 19 2010, 07:01 PM Lanlaorn What are you talking about, you add your countersp... Aug 19 2010, 08:20 PM Lanlaorn My point was that you can make a "mage killer... Aug 19 2010, 09:34 PM X-Kalibur You can stop making me laugh any time you want.
Y... Aug 19 2010, 10:17 PM Lanlaorn QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Aug 19 2010, 05:1... Aug 20 2010, 03:37 AM Mäx QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Aug 20 2010, 05:37 AM) ... Aug 20 2010, 05:37 AM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Aug 19 2010, 07:37 PM) ... Aug 20 2010, 06:35 AM X-Kalibur [editted double post] Aug 20 2010, 06:35 AM Doc Chase QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Aug 20 2010, 03:37 AM) ... Aug 20 2010, 02:28 PM Doc Chase I don't have a sheet in front of me. Isn... Aug 19 2010, 09:49 PM Fatum Yep. Aug 19 2010, 10:05 PM tete yet another reason I don't like 4e mages Aug 19 2010, 10:22 PM X-Kalibur Yeah, just 5 hits, best of luck with that unless y... Aug 19 2010, 10:46 PM LurkerOutThere The logic is this:
Specializations add to skill t... Aug 20 2010, 05:39 AM killfr3nzy QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 20 2010, 01:3... Aug 20 2010, 06:18 PM kzt You summon a f7 or so guardian spirit. This has c... Aug 20 2010, 05:44 AM Matsci QUOTE (kzt @ Aug 19 2010, 10:44 PM) You s... Aug 20 2010, 05:50 AM kzt QUOTE (Matsci @ Aug 19 2010, 10:50 PM) 7 ... Aug 20 2010, 05:53 PM Mäx Specialisations aply to every test made that the s... Aug 20 2010, 05:47 AM LurkerOutThere QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 20 2010, 12:47 AM) Speci... Aug 20 2010, 12:35 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 20 2010, 05:3... Aug 20 2010, 03:59 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 20 2010, 06:3... Aug 20 2010, 04:15 PM Mäx The book says:"Specializations add 2 dice to ... Aug 20 2010, 12:47 PM LurkerOutThere That's pretty much what i'm saying, your c... Aug 20 2010, 01:05 PM LurkerOutThere Because non magical characters quite specifically ... Aug 20 2010, 04:40 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 20 2010, 09:4... Aug 20 2010, 04:47 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 20 2010, 10:4... Aug 20 2010, 07:03 PM LurkerOutThere It also doens't state that their included, jus... Aug 20 2010, 04:52 PM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 20 2010, 11:5... Aug 20 2010, 05:04 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 20 2010, 09:5... Aug 20 2010, 05:05 PM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Aug 20 2010, 01:0... Aug 20 2010, 05:16 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Aug 20 2010, 10... Aug 20 2010, 05:32 PM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Aug 20 2010, 01:3... Aug 20 2010, 05:38 PM LurkerOutThere To be fair there are a lot of emphasis out there t... Aug 20 2010, 05:26 PM X-Kalibur Well, what if we look at it this way:
Defending a... Aug 20 2010, 05:44 PM Shinobi Killfist I see it as one stage removed problem. The defens... Aug 20 2010, 05:51 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Aug 20 2010, 10... Aug 20 2010, 06:19 PM LurkerOutThere It needs magical guard to have counterspell which ... Aug 20 2010, 06:05 PM kzt QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 20 2010, 11:0... Aug 20 2010, 11:55 PM pbangarth Consider a different view of the bonus +2 dice con... Aug 20 2010, 07:04 PM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (pbangarth @ Aug 20 2010, 02:04 PM)... Aug 20 2010, 09:22 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Aug 20 2010, 01... Aug 20 2010, 09:36 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Aug 20 2010, 04... Aug 20 2010, 09:51 PM LurkerOutThere QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Aug 20 2010, 03:51 P... Aug 21 2010, 12:25 AM DireRadiant QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 20 2010, 06:2... Aug 21 2010, 04:11 AM DireRadiant End of the day, when the player asks if they can t... Aug 21 2010, 04:08 AM LurkerOutThere QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Aug 20 2010, 11:08 P... Aug 21 2010, 12:36 PM Fatum QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 21 2010, 04:3... Aug 21 2010, 02:51 PM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Fatum @ Aug 21 2010, 10:51 AM) Pro... Aug 21 2010, 03:07 PM killfr3nzy I'm way too tired to even try and logic this o... Aug 21 2010, 01:08 PM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (killfr3nzy @ Aug 21 2010, 03:08 PM... Aug 21 2010, 01:18 PM Mäx QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Aug 21 2010, 04:18 P... Aug 21 2010, 02:45 PM Fatum So, if you are aiding with counterspelling, you do... Aug 21 2010, 03:33 PM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Fatum @ Aug 21 2010, 11:33 AM) So,... Aug 21 2010, 04:20 PM Fatum QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Aug 21 2010, 08... Aug 21 2010, 06:06 PM LurkerOutThere People keep getitng hung up on the value of specia... Aug 21 2010, 04:54 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 21 2010, 09:5... Aug 21 2010, 06:25 PM LurkerOutThere That word strict, it does not mean what you think ... Aug 21 2010, 06:22 PM Fatum QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 21 2010, 10:2... Aug 21 2010, 06:33 PM LurkerOutThere QUOTE (Fatum @ Aug 21 2010, 12:33 PM) Doe... Aug 22 2010, 12:21 PM Fatum Oh, so counterspelling working differently dependi... Aug 22 2010, 04:01 PM killfr3nzy I think it's less 'common sense' and m... Aug 22 2010, 04:12 PM X-Kalibur I believe Lurker and Shinobi have both stated prev... Aug 22 2010, 06:09 PM  |
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