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Dumori
post Sep 9 2010, 02:39 AM
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I know for one spirits can't by RAW leave the astral. What other parts of RAW are clearly not RAI or just don't even work and why? Enlighten me Dumpshock and alos maybe we could get some errata(Fat chance I know but it's worth a try). Lets not go for rule that are ambiguous but do actually work by RAW however you read it.
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- Dumori   Broken Rules.   Sep 9 2010, 02:39 AM
- - Neurosis   This is pretty bone-headed, but I heard somewhere ...   Sep 9 2010, 02:42 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 8 2010, 07:42 PM) T...   Sep 9 2010, 02:47 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 9 2010, 04...   Sep 9 2010, 02:54 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Sep 9 2010, 09:54 AM) ...   Sep 9 2010, 04:03 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Neraph @ Sep 9 2010, 05:03 PM) Mos...   Sep 9 2010, 04:15 PM
- - Kid Chameleon   I'm sure that the deadliness of mid 21st centu...   Sep 9 2010, 02:51 AM
|- - Neurosis   QUOTE (Kid Chameleon @ Sep 8 2010, 09:51 ...   Sep 9 2010, 03:09 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 8 2010, 08:09 PM) I...   Sep 9 2010, 03:15 AM
- - Darkeus   Stick N Shock. Too broad in its description and b...   Sep 9 2010, 02:55 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Psh, Darkeus, that's obviously not what the OP...   Sep 9 2010, 02:59 AM
- - Neurosis   Really? Can you cite examples. I have heard of thi...   Sep 9 2010, 03:19 AM
- - Garvel   Spirits are vulnerable to toxin. They can do comba...   Sep 9 2010, 03:58 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE Really? Can you cite examples. I have heard ...   Sep 9 2010, 04:02 AM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 8 2010, 11:02 PM) OK. ...   Sep 9 2010, 05:30 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Critias @ Sep 8 2010, 09:30 PM) Ac...   Sep 9 2010, 07:07 AM
||- - Mäx   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 9 2010, 09:07 AM) Now I...   Sep 9 2010, 07:19 AM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (Mäx @ Sep 8 2010, 11:19 PM) Page 1...   Sep 9 2010, 08:14 AM
||- - X-Kalibur   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 9 2010, 01:14 AM) Sorry...   Sep 9 2010, 05:06 PM
||- - sabs   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Sep 9 2010, 06:06...   Sep 9 2010, 05:40 PM
|- - Social Reject   QUOTE (Critias @ Sep 9 2010, 10:00 AM) To...   Sep 9 2010, 05:50 PM
- - Neraph   Heck, pixies. They're smaller than gnomes but ...   Sep 9 2010, 04:04 AM
|- - Straight Razor   QUOTE (Neraph @ Sep 8 2010, 11:04 PM) Als...   Sep 9 2010, 03:08 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Straight Razor @ Sep 9 2010, 04:08...   Sep 9 2010, 03:20 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 9 2010, 04:20 PM) The p...   Sep 9 2010, 03:51 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Sep 9 2010, 04:51 PM) ...   Sep 9 2010, 04:00 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Sep 9 2010, 04:51 PM) ...   Sep 9 2010, 04:08 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Dumori @ Sep 9 2010, 05:08 PM) But...   Sep 9 2010, 04:12 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Also - (cross)bows cannot Fire, as that acti...   Sep 9 2010, 04:10 AM
- - Neraph   A minor point, but AIs can have SINner, but they...   Sep 9 2010, 04:16 AM
|- - Neurosis   QUOTE (Neraph @ Sep 9 2010, 12:16 AM) A m...   Sep 9 2010, 05:36 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 8 2010, 11:36 PM) S...   Sep 9 2010, 06:35 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 9 2010, 05:36 AM) S...   Sep 9 2010, 08:00 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I don't see the problem. Use 'Throw Weapo...   Sep 9 2010, 04:17 AM
- - Neraph   If you "Throw Weapon" then you'd be ...   Sep 9 2010, 04:20 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I dunno. Projectile Weapons *are* Throwing Weapons...   Sep 9 2010, 04:33 AM
- - Neraph   No. Projectile weapons and Throwing weapons get lu...   Sep 9 2010, 04:39 AM
- - Yerameyahu   They're also together in the rules, as I said....   Sep 9 2010, 05:25 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Indeed. The ramming rules in general are a big mes...   Sep 9 2010, 05:31 AM
- - Redcrow   One rule that seems to be a bit contradictory is.....   Sep 9 2010, 06:17 AM
- - Neraph   Apparently, after re-re-re-reading the Radio Signa...   Sep 9 2010, 07:20 AM
- - Blade   Pixies, gnomes, dwarves and other short-legged cha...   Sep 9 2010, 08:44 AM
- - Stahlseele   Scatter Rules for Grenades and Missles and the suc...   Sep 9 2010, 08:49 AM
- - UmaroVI   Chase Combat doesn't work, like, at all. It es...   Sep 9 2010, 11:01 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Sep 9 2010, 04:01 AM) Ch...   Sep 9 2010, 02:52 PM
|- - UmaroVI   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 9 2010, 10...   Sep 9 2010, 03:59 PM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Sep 9 2010, 09:59 AM) I...   Sep 9 2010, 05:42 PM
- - Garvel   I have never seen a GM using Chase Combat. And I ...   Sep 9 2010, 11:40 AM
- - Paul Kauphart   well, without dicepool reduction and with a 1 to 5...   Sep 9 2010, 12:05 PM
- - Tiralee   More more I read this thread, the more I facepalm ...   Sep 9 2010, 01:16 PM
- - Stahlseele   sad but all true.   Sep 9 2010, 01:21 PM
- - IKerensky   SR4 -SR4A vehicules rules are such a joke that I w...   Sep 9 2010, 01:30 PM
- - sabs   My personal Favorite is that my Troll has just as ...   Sep 9 2010, 01:33 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 9 2010, 02:33 PM) My pe...   Sep 9 2010, 03:13 PM
||- - sabs   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Sep 9 2010, 04:13 PM) ...   Sep 9 2010, 03:23 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 9 2010, 08:33 AM) My pe...   Sep 9 2010, 04:00 PM
- - Piersdrach   These threads are amusing at first then...not, I...   Sep 9 2010, 03:25 PM
- - Traul   Dartguns in the core book: a gun with AP -2 whose ...   Sep 9 2010, 03:26 PM
- - Straight Razor   this is just me, but i always go with the subject-...   Sep 9 2010, 03:54 PM
- - Doc Chase   Ye gods. I could swear it was a Complex to fire, ...   Sep 9 2010, 04:02 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Sep 9 2010, 05:02 PM) ...   Sep 9 2010, 04:09 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 9 2010, 05:09 PM) poten...   Sep 9 2010, 04:22 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Sep 9 2010, 05:22 PM) ...   Sep 9 2010, 04:24 PM
|- - Mayhem_2006   QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 9 2010, 05:24 PM) It...   Sep 9 2010, 04:42 PM
- - Critias   On the bows/crossbows front? There's a line o...   Sep 9 2010, 04:15 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Critias @ Sep 9 2010, 11:15 AM) On...   Sep 9 2010, 04:21 PM
||- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (Neraph @ Sep 9 2010, 06:21 PM) ...   Sep 9 2010, 04:37 PM
|- - Neurosis   QUOTE (Critias @ Sep 9 2010, 11:15 AM) On...   Sep 9 2010, 05:20 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The downward spiral Extended Tests is an optional ...   Sep 9 2010, 04:24 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 9 2010, 11:24 AM)...   Sep 9 2010, 04:27 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Neraph @ Sep 9 2010, 05:27 PM) Agr...   Sep 9 2010, 04:56 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Free stuff?   Sep 9 2010, 04:41 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 9 2010, 05:41 PM)...   Sep 9 2010, 05:01 PM
- - Dumori   Hell we'll compile here then I'll post the...   Sep 9 2010, 05:04 PM
- - Malachi   QUOTE (Dumori @ Sep 8 2010, 08:39 PM) I k...   Sep 9 2010, 05:43 PM
- - Stahlseele   Because Materialization is a physical power, which...   Sep 9 2010, 05:44 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 9 2010, 01:44 PM)...   Sep 9 2010, 07:06 PM
- - Neraph   Go read your book. Spirits start on the Astral Pl...   Sep 9 2010, 05:44 PM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (Neraph @ Sep 9 2010, 11:44 AM) Go ...   Sep 9 2010, 07:43 PM
- - Stahlseele   Well, a bigger/larger/tougher vehicle would probab...   Sep 9 2010, 06:08 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Someone almost mentioned this, but I view it as a ...   Sep 9 2010, 06:20 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 9 2010, 07:20 PM)...   Sep 9 2010, 06:23 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Sep 9 2010, 07:23 PM) ...   Sep 9 2010, 06:30 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 9 2010, 06:30 PM) Take ...   Sep 9 2010, 06:35 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I wouldn't say 'vehicle untouched'. Yo...   Sep 9 2010, 06:36 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 9 2010, 07:36 PM)...   Sep 9 2010, 06:43 PM
- - Doc Chase   Meh. Solve it with a "I aim for the driver...   Sep 9 2010, 06:39 PM
- - X-Kalibur   I don't see any rule stating that the passenge...   Sep 9 2010, 06:49 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Sep 9 2010, 07:49...   Sep 9 2010, 06:57 PM
|- - X-Kalibur   QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 9 2010, 11:57 AM) At th...   Sep 9 2010, 08:36 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Oh, I see what you meant, sabs. A Citymaster is a...   Sep 9 2010, 06:54 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That *could* mean no bonus armor, or it could just...   Sep 9 2010, 07:04 PM
- - Stahlseele   Spirits don't like being corporal for any reas...   Sep 9 2010, 07:12 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I love that post. Classic.   Sep 9 2010, 07:48 PM
- - sabs   Hence why I brought it up for this post It depend...   Sep 9 2010, 08:45 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Right. However, I wouldn't say that 'equal...   Sep 9 2010, 08:47 PM
- - sabs   Yes, it's definitely a "what the hell wer...   Sep 9 2010, 08:52 PM
- - Yerameyahu   They don't: you get Good Cover and Blind Fire.   Sep 9 2010, 08:54 PM
- - Stahlseele   Because the seating arrangements in cars are prett...   Sep 9 2010, 08:55 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Doesn't matter, there are no hit locations any...   Sep 9 2010, 09:00 PM
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