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Note: I don't view Shadowrun as a Dystopia. I find it a reflection of our times, no better, no worse. I graduated high school in 1984 (and found Shadowrun then a reflection of those times). My parents grew up in the Great Depression. Your mileage may vary.

That being said, assuming you find Shadowrun or parts of Shadowrun a dystopia, do you feel it's an active dystopia, where the actions of the powerful are deliberately trying to assert control over the masses or do you find it's a passive dystopia, where the powerful simply doesn't care about the masses.

Things to consider might be:
1) Do the powerful fear the masses?
2) Do the powerful react to the demands of the masses or do the powerful only appear to react to the demands of the masses or do the powerful clearly not care.
3) Do the masses fear the powerful?
4) Is that fear realistic?
5) Bread? Circuses?
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- suoq   Shadowrun's Dystopia: Active or Passive?   Sep 11 2010, 06:11 PM
- - Yerameyahu   No need for the inaccurate Apple/Microsoft analogy...   Sep 11 2010, 06:27 PM
- - BookWyrm   While SR1 does have that 'dystopian future...   Sep 11 2010, 06:30 PM
- - jaellot   I can agree with the reflection of our times bit, ...   Sep 11 2010, 06:47 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (jaellot @ Sep 11 2010, 07:47 PM) w...   Sep 12 2010, 01:17 AM
- - Yerameyahu   *shrug* One of them has an OS that locks into ...   Sep 11 2010, 06:52 PM
- - Daylen   SR is arguably not a dystopia anymore since it is ...   Sep 12 2010, 01:21 AM
|- - Abschalten   QUOTE (Daylen @ Sep 11 2010, 08:21 PM) SR...   Sep 12 2010, 02:10 AM
|- - Neurosis   QUOTE (Abschalten @ Sep 11 2010, 09:10 PM...   Sep 12 2010, 02:31 AM
|- - Abschalten   QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 11 2010, 09:31 PM) ...   Sep 12 2010, 02:36 AM
- - Method   QUOTE (Daylen @ Sep 11 2010, 08:17 PM) le...   Sep 12 2010, 02:06 AM
- - Antonius Block   Am I alone in thinking a world where advertisement...   Sep 12 2010, 02:43 AM
- - nezumi   I don't think you can categorize it in just on...   Sep 12 2010, 10:45 AM
- - Saint Sithney   Historically, Seattle had a psychotic thrill-kill ...   Sep 12 2010, 11:57 AM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Sep 12 2010, 01:57...   Sep 12 2010, 01:24 PM
- - Cheops   I'm also pretty put off by the Crash 2.0 and h...   Sep 12 2010, 01:51 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Cheops @ Sep 12 2010, 08:51 AM) I...   Sep 12 2010, 02:28 PM
||- - Cheops   QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 12 2010, 02:28 PM) Ye...   Sep 12 2010, 11:45 PM
|- - Martin_DeVries_Institute   QUOTE (Cheops @ Sep 12 2010, 06:51 AM) I...   Sep 12 2010, 08:58 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Are you saying having a super-all-inclusive tracki...   Sep 12 2010, 02:20 PM
- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (suoq @ Sep 11 2010, 08:11 PM) Thin...   Sep 12 2010, 04:09 PM
|- - Manunancy   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Sep 12 2010, 06:09 PM...   Sep 12 2010, 05:38 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Manunancy @ Sep 12 2010, 12:38 PM)...   Sep 12 2010, 06:47 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 12 2010, 06:47 PM) Na...   Sep 12 2010, 08:48 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 12 2010, 03:47 PM) Na...   Sep 13 2010, 07:41 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Yeah, sometimes a scandal does break loose, but of...   Sep 12 2010, 06:53 PM
- - Glyph   I think Shadowrun has enough of a mix of oppressor...   Sep 12 2010, 09:34 PM
- - CanRay   Yeah, well... It doesn't take that much stret...   Sep 12 2010, 11:51 PM
- - Cheops   It is somewhat complicated that the UCAS does have...   Sep 13 2010, 12:08 AM
- - CanRay   That's great... For the people who have ...   Sep 13 2010, 12:16 AM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Manunancy @ Sep 12 2010, 09:38 AM)...   Sep 13 2010, 11:37 AM
- - Cheops   And would have sparked a major inquest and backlas...   Sep 13 2010, 01:19 PM
- - CanRay   OK, I'll go with the Blimps. I mean, my group...   Sep 13 2010, 01:25 PM
- - Cheops   There. Now we are starting to get somewhere a bit...   Sep 13 2010, 01:38 PM
- - CanRay   Who have no education, no job skills, can't re...   Sep 13 2010, 01:43 PM
|- - Cheops   QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 13 2010, 01:43 PM) Wh...   Sep 13 2010, 02:16 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Cheops @ Sep 13 2010, 03:16 PM) Ed...   Sep 13 2010, 02:22 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 13 2010, 08:22 AM) I th...   Sep 13 2010, 02:26 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (suoq @ Sep 13 2010, 03:26 PM) Fixe...   Sep 13 2010, 02:27 PM
||- - CanRay   QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 13 2010, 09:27 AM) Of c...   Sep 13 2010, 02:38 PM
||- - Cheops   QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 13 2010, 03:38 PM) ...   Sep 13 2010, 08:48 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (suoq @ Sep 13 2010, 03:26 PM) Fixe...   Sep 13 2010, 06:42 PM
- - sabs   I have a problem with part of the setting. There...   Sep 13 2010, 02:05 PM
- - CanRay   Well, to be fair, the overpopulation thing is due ...   Sep 13 2010, 02:09 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 13 2010, 03:09 PM) We...   Sep 13 2010, 02:11 PM
- - CanRay   ... Except Winnipeg, yeah.   Sep 13 2010, 02:14 PM
- - Prime Mover   1) Do the powerful fear the masses? (Only when ou...   Sep 13 2010, 02:33 PM
- - Blade   My games, especially my latest campaign, are dysto...   Sep 14 2010, 10:36 AM


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