 Biowire and the Skillwire Expert System, Why Writers need to cross check. |
 Sep 29 2010, 10:16 PM
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I'm a big fan of technomancers, they start off relatively limited but sink some karma in them and they become digital gods, they are also decent second tier combatants when done right (I'm looking at you Accel echo), but I have a question about the biowire echo. Namely it specifies it mimicing the skillwire system, however in Augmentation the expert skillwire specifis it's greater integration in the system as te reason for allowing edge to reroll failure. If this is so shouldn't Biowire as an organic adaptation gain the same benefit (at least)to the system of the technomancer, an individual with a natural affinity for electronic information manipulation and processing. Has this been addressed somewhere I am unaware of such as in 4A or a piece of errata?
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Sixgun_Sage Biowire and the Skillwire Expert System Sep 29 2010, 10:16 PM
Aaron The name "expert system" suggests that t... Sep 29 2010, 10:23 PM
Sixgun_Sage QUOTE (Aaron @ Sep 29 2010, 05:23 PM) The... Sep 29 2010, 11:23 PM Marcus QUOTE (Sixgun_Sage @ Sep 29 2010, 06:23 P... Sep 30 2010, 12:25 AM Aaron QUOTE (Sixgun_Sage @ Sep 29 2010, 06:23 P... Sep 30 2010, 12:53 AM Dumori If it really irks you let then have an echo for it... Sep 29 2010, 11:49 PM Sixgun_Sage Eh, it isn't a huge issue for me, it just seem... Sep 30 2010, 12:20 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Sixgun_Sage @ Sep 29 2010, 06:20 P... Sep 30 2010, 12:30 AM Marcus QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 29 2010, 07... Sep 30 2010, 12:33 AM Sixgun_Sage QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 29 2010, 07... Sep 30 2010, 12:50 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Sixgun_Sage @ Sep 29 2010, 05:50 P... Sep 30 2010, 12:55 AM Sixgun_Sage QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 29 2010, 07... Sep 30 2010, 01:00 AM Walpurgisborn QUOTE (Sixgun_Sage @ Sep 29 2010, 09:00 P... Sep 30 2010, 03:43 AM Marcus QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 29 2010, 07... Sep 30 2010, 01:07 AM Yerameyahu It's simple. Biowires duplicates basic Skillwi... Sep 30 2010, 02:20 AM DMiller The TM could also use the DIMAP program option whe... Sep 30 2010, 03:18 AM Sixgun_Sage QUOTE (DMiller @ Sep 29 2010, 10:18 PM) T... Sep 30 2010, 03:24 AM Yerameyahu They're both only for rerolling failed Tests, ... Sep 30 2010, 03:30 AM Sixgun_Sage QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 29 2010, 10:30 PM... Sep 30 2010, 03:39 AM Yerameyahu I know, but someone implied that it was better tha... Sep 30 2010, 03:43 AM Dumori Of corse with swap maxed an TM can just on the fly... Sep 30 2010, 05:55 AM DMiller Keep in mind to emulate a skill they need to gain ... Sep 30 2010, 05:59 AM Yerameyahu Well, only if they have access to the information.... Sep 30 2010, 06:06 AM Marcus QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 30 2010, 02:06 AM... Sep 30 2010, 06:18 AM Yerameyahu I just meant that they can't 'magically... Sep 30 2010, 06:22 AM Marcus QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 30 2010, 02:22 AM... Sep 30 2010, 06:26 AM Dumori QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 30 2010, 07:22 AM... Sep 30 2010, 07:20 AM Yerameyahu I'm not sure what you mean. KnowSofts are only... Sep 30 2010, 03:05 PM Dumori QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 30 2010, 04:05 PM... Sep 30 2010, 03:15 PM sabs Don't the rules specifically say that TM's... Sep 30 2010, 03:06 PM Dumori QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 30 2010, 04:06 PM) Don... Sep 30 2010, 03:14 PM sabs QUOTE (Dumori @ Sep 30 2010, 04:14 PM) No... Sep 30 2010, 03:22 PM Marcus QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 30 2010, 10:06 AM) Don... Sep 30 2010, 03:58 PM Dumori QUOTE (Marcus @ Sep 30 2010, 04:58 PM) Wi... Sep 30 2010, 04:01 PM Marcus QUOTE (Dumori @ Sep 30 2010, 11:01 AM) Na... Sep 30 2010, 04:37 PM Yerameyahu I'm not talking about the RAW; obviously, many... Sep 30 2010, 03:20 PM Yerameyahu Right, but they should be required to *actually* g... Sep 30 2010, 04:06 PM sabs DIMAP coding makes the skillwire expert system a w... Sep 30 2010, 04:39 PM Yerameyahu Welcome to 20 posts ago, sabs. Although, the Expe... Sep 30 2010, 04:41 PM sabs CF's don't suffer from degradation.
Why wo... Sep 30 2010, 04:42 PM Yerameyahu That assumes you're buying them all with Karma... Sep 30 2010, 04:48 PM sabs it's true
Getting a new skill from rating 0 to... Sep 30 2010, 04:56 PM DMiller QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 1 2010, 01:56 AM) it... Oct 1 2010, 04:10 AM sabs No I'm not including the karma cost for submer... Oct 1 2010, 12:54 PM Marcus QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 1 2010, 07:54 AM) No I... Oct 1 2010, 01:24 PM sabs QUOTE (Marcus @ Oct 1 2010, 02:24 PM) Unw... Oct 1 2010, 01:28 PM Marcus QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 1 2010, 08:28 AM) Perso... Oct 1 2010, 02:05 PM sabs It's +1 for each option or option rating
You s... Oct 1 2010, 02:12 PM Marcus QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 1 2010, 09:12 AM) It... Oct 1 2010, 02:24 PM sabs Page 270 of the SR4A the Character Improvement Tab... Oct 1 2010, 02:32 PM Yerameyahu That still doesn't make sense… Oct 1 2010, 02:38 PM sabs Okay, I'll bite
What doesn't make sense?
... Oct 1 2010, 02:39 PM Yerameyahu Ah, program options count exactly as an entire ext... Oct 1 2010, 06:48 PM sabs Except that the BIOWIRE infor says somethign sligh... Oct 1 2010, 06:53 PM Yerameyahu So we were both wrong. That's kinda stupid, t... Oct 1 2010, 06:57 PM sabs you cant' get Skillsofts over rating 4 though.... Oct 1 2010, 07:01 PM Yerameyahu I agree that this isn't for free: you have to ... Oct 1 2010, 07:07 PM Marcus QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 1 2010, 03:07 PM)... Oct 2 2010, 06:13 AM sabs Can't i legally buy the skillsoft with all tho... Oct 1 2010, 07:10 PM Yerameyahu You can only buy the 'soft with Rating/2 Optio... Oct 1 2010, 07:27 PM sabs You're a technomancer what are you using money... Oct 1 2010, 07:33 PM Dumori QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 1 2010, 08:33 PM) You... Oct 1 2010, 07:40 PM sabs QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 1 2010, 08:33 PM) You... Oct 1 2010, 07:48 PM Sixgun_Sage Even better is when you buy the skillchip and then... Oct 1 2010, 07:43 PM sabs I did say /hacker/ character.
My hacker character... Oct 1 2010, 07:43 PM Dumori QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 1 2010, 08:43 PM) I did... Oct 1 2010, 07:44 PM Yerameyahu No clue, because the limit is Rating/2 and Rating ... Oct 1 2010, 08:01 PM sabs It is?
I must reread Unwired
So it does.
Well, I... Oct 1 2010, 08:01 PM Yerameyahu It's the general Option rule. Yeah, DIMAP suck... Oct 1 2010, 08:03 PM sabs Well it sucks for mundanes who can get expert skil... Oct 1 2010, 08:05 PM Yerameyahu Mhm. Well, cyborgs could be a special exception, b... Oct 2 2010, 04:00 PM Udoshi QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2010, 10:00 AM)... Oct 4 2010, 12:30 AM Yerameyahu Interesting! Oct 4 2010, 12:31 AM DMiller The FAQ does say that you can't thread-up a sk... Oct 4 2010, 09:37 PM Dumori QUOTE (DMiller @ Oct 4 2010, 10:37 PM) Th... Oct 4 2010, 10:15 PM Marcus QUOTE (Dumori @ Oct 4 2010, 06:15 PM) Off... Oct 4 2010, 10:20 PM Dumori QUOTE (Marcus @ Oct 4 2010, 11:20 PM) I t... Oct 4 2010, 10:24 PM Udoshi edit: oops. Didn't see page 4. someone beat me... Oct 5 2010, 03:45 AM Yerameyahu On the face of it, that just sounds bad, Dumori. ... Oct 5 2010, 02:07 AM Dumori QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 5 2010, 03:07 AM)... Oct 5 2010, 01:49 PM Yerameyahu Right. So, that pretty much answers all my questio... Oct 5 2010, 03:57 AM Marcus QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 4 2010, 11:57 PM)... Oct 5 2010, 06:33 AM Udoshi QUOTE (Marcus @ Oct 5 2010, 12:33 AM) Whi... Oct 7 2010, 02:05 AM Marcus QUOTE (Udoshi @ Oct 6 2010, 09:05 PM) TM:... Oct 7 2010, 07:01 AM Udoshi Well, it appears the devs have put their foot down... Oct 22 2010, 08:57 PM Laughing One QUOTE (Udoshi @ Oct 7 2010, 02:05 AM) TM:... Oct 7 2010, 10:14 AM sabs You're a technomancer with software skill, you... Oct 5 2010, 12:23 PM Marcus QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 5 2010, 08:23 AM) What ... Oct 5 2010, 01:44 PM sabs QUOTE (Marcus @ Oct 5 2010, 02:44 PM) Bee... Oct 5 2010, 02:10 PM Marcus QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 5 2010, 10:10 AM) you s... Oct 5 2010, 02:18 PM jakephillips Hey when the same guy delivers pizza to your place... Oct 6 2010, 03:00 AM sabs QUOTE (jakephillips @ Oct 6 2010, 03:00 A... Oct 6 2010, 12:57 PM Yerameyahu I still don't think anything should be allowed... Oct 7 2010, 02:11 AM Yerameyahu See, exactly what I asked. Thanks! Oct 7 2010, 01:20 PM Dumori So did I but the ability to long time serrise a sp... Oct 7 2010, 03:00 PM Marcus QUOTE (Dumori @ Oct 7 2010, 10:00 AM) So ... Oct 7 2010, 03:09 PM MuscaDomestica Can you use a Tutor Sprite to run the skill soft a... Oct 13 2010, 08:28 PM Yerameyahu It appears that you have to have access to actual ... Oct 13 2010, 08:33 PM Yerameyahu QUOTE Yes you certainly can do that, but is there ... Oct 23 2010, 02:42 AM Udoshi QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 22 2010, 08:42 PM... Oct 23 2010, 07:06 AM  |
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