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> Two-weapon fighting with dual Reach 2 weapons ?, The rule says no. But could trolls use them one-handed ?
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On page 163 of Arsenal :

QUOTE (Two Weapon Melee Combat)
In order to use two weapons in melee combat, each weapon
must have a Reach of 0 or 1.


But trolls being big, their penalties are reduced for wielding two-handed weapons in one hand (which seems to be the case for most Reach 2 weapons). Would this make sense, given their sheer size, to be able to go beyond this limit of Reach 1 ? (by accepting the small penalties)

For example : would you allow a troll-sized character to wield two "Reach 2" melee weapons (nodachi, combat axe, etc.) including an assault rifle equipped with a bayonet ?

Obviously a nodachi can be swapped for a smaller weapon like a katana or vibro sword. But this is especially problematic for bayonets, which only come with Reach 2.

This would allow a character with "Two weapon style" to use only the Blade skill for both defensive weapons (instead of improvised clubs, as with Melee hardening), and gain the benefit of higher reach as well.
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- Quake   Two-weapon fighting with dual Reach 2 weapons ?   Jan 25 2011, 04:39 PM
- - Dahrken   While the penalties for using a two-handed weapon ...   Jan 25 2011, 05:44 PM
- - Fatum   Sure, why not.   Jan 25 2011, 06:30 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Fatum @ Jan 25 2011, 12:30 PM) Sur...   Jan 25 2011, 07:12 PM
- - Stahlseele   Is it really worth it for . . what? 2 dice more? *...   Jan 25 2011, 07:05 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Quake, you're such a munchkin. RAW, no. It s...   Jan 25 2011, 07:36 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 25 2011, 01:36 PM...   Jan 25 2011, 07:43 PM
|- - Quake   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 25 2011, 08:36 PM...   Jan 26 2011, 12:32 AM
- - Yerameyahu   And it has the benefit of being slightly (only sli...   Jan 25 2011, 07:48 PM
- - KarmaInferno   Daggerpistols! -k   Jan 25 2011, 08:18 PM
- - Stahlseele   blade does not extend far enough. only marginally ...   Jan 25 2011, 09:47 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's a hand-axe, duh. Chop with it. The real r...   Jan 25 2011, 09:52 PM
- - Neraph   Alternatively you can underbarrel a gun in a sword...   Jan 25 2011, 10:00 PM
- - Yerameyahu   No, you can't. Swords don't have barrels, ...   Jan 25 2011, 10:03 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 25 2011, 11:03 PM...   Jan 25 2011, 10:06 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 25 2011, 04:03 PM...   Jan 25 2011, 10:16 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's a gunblade. Not a sword, to which an ...   Jan 25 2011, 10:11 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 25 2011, 05:11 PM...   Jan 26 2011, 06:54 PM
- - Stahlseele   it is a blade with a barrel ^^ i guess one could d...   Jan 25 2011, 10:13 PM
- - sabs   The traditional way to parry with a hand axe, is t...   Jan 25 2011, 10:13 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's why it's called a hand axe, after a...   Jan 25 2011, 10:14 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You're no fun. See, I was saying that it...   Jan 25 2011, 10:17 PM
- - Stahlseele   *snickers* poor guy ^^   Jan 25 2011, 10:25 PM
- - Fatum   And that is the bad, bad place where excessive ped...   Jan 25 2011, 11:10 PM
- - PiXeL01   Yerameyahu, you worry too much about the literal s...   Jan 26 2011, 12:28 AM
|- - IcyCool   QUOTE (PiXeL01 @ Jan 26 2011, 01:28 AM) I...   Jan 26 2011, 01:07 AM
- - Neraph   *cough cough* .... I statted a chainsword up. And ...   Jan 26 2011, 12:39 AM
|- - Quake   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jan 26 2011, 01:39 AM) *c...   Jan 26 2011, 01:41 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Quake @ Jan 25 2011, 07:41 PM) Rea...   Jan 26 2011, 07:21 AM
- - Stahlseele   Troll. Reach 2 Elongated Limbs. Reach 3 Pole-Arm o...   Jan 26 2011, 12:39 AM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 25 2011, 06:39 PM...   Jan 26 2011, 03:12 AM
|- - Bodak   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 26 2011, 10:39 AM...   Jan 26 2011, 07:40 AM
|- - Digital Heroin   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 26 2011, 01:39 AM...   Jan 26 2011, 10:18 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (Digital Heroin @ Jan 26 2011, 11:1...   Jan 26 2011, 10:55 PM
- - Neraph   Or any direct combat spell targeting your Willpowe...   Jan 26 2011, 12:40 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Weapon Reach is max 4. That's not the same as ...   Jan 26 2011, 03:54 AM
- - Stahlseele   Ah, right, my bad, i forgot that everybody starts ...   Jan 26 2011, 10:42 AM
- - Manunancy   Allowing a troll to dual wield reach 2 weapons is ...   Jan 26 2011, 11:37 AM
|- - Quake   QUOTE (Manunancy @ Jan 26 2011, 12:37 PM)...   Jan 26 2011, 06:19 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Manunancy @ Jan 26 2011, 05:37 AM)...   Jan 26 2011, 06:22 PM
|- - Manunancy   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jan 26 2011, 07:22 PM) Th...   Jan 26 2011, 08:29 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Manunancy @ Jan 26 2011, 02:29 PM)...   Jan 27 2011, 04:22 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Mine *wasn't* pedantry, anyway. It was joking-...   Jan 26 2011, 07:24 PM
|- - IcyCool   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 26 2011, 07:24 PM...   Jan 26 2011, 08:32 PM
|- - ProfGast   QUOTE (IcyCool @ Jan 26 2011, 10:32 AM) Y...   Jan 26 2011, 09:02 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I agree: bigger, stronger hands doesn't seem e...   Jan 26 2011, 08:38 PM
- - Yerameyahu   A rocket-axe is the same thing as a gun-hammer, br...   Jan 26 2011, 09:05 PM
- - Quake   Ido's "rocket-pick-axe" from Gunnm a...   Jan 26 2011, 09:57 PM
- - Fatum   You forget that trolls have hands much larger than...   Jan 26 2011, 10:30 PM
|- - Manunancy   QUOTE (Fatum @ Jan 26 2011, 11:30 PM) You...   Jan 27 2011, 07:37 AM
- - Fatum   If it's a troll-adapted weapon, all the better...   Jan 27 2011, 10:45 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Aren't we?   Jan 27 2011, 01:47 PM
- - Fatum   Well, they are not smarter than replacing a grenad...   Jan 27 2011, 05:51 PM
- - Omenowl   Grenades are great if the fighting is not close an...   Jan 28 2011, 02:15 AM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (Omenowl @ Jan 28 2011, 05:15 AM) G...   Jan 28 2011, 02:42 PM
- - Seth   Back to the comment on Dagger Pistols If you go t...   Jan 28 2011, 08:58 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Seth @ Jan 28 2011, 02:58 AM) I ta...   Jan 28 2011, 04:19 PM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jan 28 2011, 11:19 AM) Tr...   Jan 29 2011, 11:00 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Not by the RAW.   Jan 28 2011, 07:36 PM
- - Stahlseele   They can handle 2h weapons one handed without prob...   Jan 28 2011, 07:51 PM
- - Yerameyahu   They can. But they can't do Two Weapon Melee C...   Jan 28 2011, 08:17 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 28 2011, 02:17 PM...   Jan 29 2011, 04:29 PM
- - Medicineman   I wouldn't mind a Troll fighting with Two No-D...   Jan 29 2011, 09:27 AM
|- - Quake   2.5 meters is quite tall, 300 kg is quite heavy. I...   Jan 29 2011, 10:47 AM
- - Yerameyahu   That is what I'm referring to, nothing else. ...   Jan 29 2011, 04:44 PM
- - Neraph   Ahh, since the "Style" was missing I was...   Jan 29 2011, 04:47 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I mean, it depends on your wording. I don't th...   Jan 29 2011, 05:02 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 29 2011, 10:02 AM...   Jan 29 2011, 11:19 PM
- - Neraph   Eh, I'd disagree with you slightly there. I do...   Jan 29 2011, 07:08 PM
- - Yerameyahu   No one is talking about "Two Weapon Style mar...   Jan 29 2011, 07:11 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 29 2011, 01:11 PM...   Jan 30 2011, 06:08 AM
- - Quake   You ganked my Rules-Fu attempt. Yeah, the specifi...   Jan 29 2011, 07:38 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Anyway. Like others have said, I'd probably j...   Jan 29 2011, 07:47 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Even that I'm not sure of, TJ, though it proba...   Jan 29 2011, 11:27 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 29 2011, 04:27 PM...   Jan 29 2011, 11:32 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yeah, it doesn't mention two weapons at all, t...   Jan 29 2011, 11:47 PM


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