Feb 8 2011, 02:29 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 473 Joined: 11-May 09 From: Fort Worth, TX Member No.: 17,167 |
I was rereading the wire damage and noticed it is entirely misguided in the use. Barbed wire is to deter animals from moving through the fence. Concertina wire is to entangle and expose someone so they are unable to move while being fired on. Neither of these wires are going to kill you unless you somehow entangle your throat and rub your neck along the wire (or blood poisoning). I feel that instead the damage should be 2S for barbed wire and 3S for concertina wire. Characters have to also pass a threshold of 1 for barbed wire to move through the wire and 2 for concertina wire per meter pushed through or over. Until a character has passed through the wire they are unable to dodge or parry. I feel this is a better representation of the wire.
Concertina wire must be cut or a shaped charge used to remove it as an obstacle. |
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Omenowl Barbed wire and its lethality Feb 8 2011, 02:29 AM
Yerameyahu Maybe it's sharper in the future. Also, everyo... Feb 8 2011, 02:46 AM
Omenowl QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 7 2011, 08:46 PM)... Feb 8 2011, 02:49 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 7 2011, 07:29 PM) I ... Feb 8 2011, 02:53 AM
StealthSigma QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 7 2011, 09... Feb 9 2011, 03:21 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Feb 9 2011, 08:21 A... Feb 9 2011, 07:33 PM
Yerameyahu The pistol gets net hits, AP, and special ammo. 5P... Feb 8 2011, 03:03 AM
Omenowl I felt it should be damage per turn until they ext... Feb 8 2011, 03:03 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 7 2011, 08:03 PM) I ... Feb 8 2011, 03:07 AM
kzt QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 7 2011, 08:03 PM) I ... Feb 8 2011, 07:13 AM
Mardrax QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 8 2011, 03... Feb 8 2011, 03:10 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Mardrax @ Feb 7 2011, 08:10 PM) Oh... Feb 8 2011, 03:13 AM
jaellot The farm stuff leaves wicked scars, too. I scar ba... Feb 8 2011, 03:28 AM
Whipstitch Yeah, I have a friend who wiped out on an ATV and ... Feb 8 2011, 03:37 AM
Fortinbras It's not so broken that it requires additional... Feb 8 2011, 06:34 AM
CanRay There's also a difference in the way the wire ... Feb 8 2011, 07:49 AM
Mardrax Electrified concertina wire? It wasn't coincid... Feb 8 2011, 08:37 AM
CanRay Barbed wire. Feb 8 2011, 08:45 AM
Mardrax Ah. A farmer's favourite indeed. Be glad you j... Feb 8 2011, 11:13 AM
Stahlseele i hate electrified fences that are supposed to kee... Feb 8 2011, 02:47 PM
Yerameyahu I saw that movie, great scene.
Are there rules f... Feb 8 2011, 02:55 PM
hobgoblin QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 8 2011, 03:55 PM)... Feb 8 2011, 06:15 PM
CanRay Consider it a taser if it's low amperage. Let... Feb 8 2011, 04:07 PM
jaellot The goats we used to have could duck under it fast... Feb 8 2011, 05:48 PM
Omenowl Most electrified fences use pulses. You definitel... Feb 9 2011, 01:31 AM
hobgoblin QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 9 2011, 02:31 AM) Mo... Feb 9 2011, 05:44 AM
CanRay Yeah, I can't say the times I was zapped were ... Feb 9 2011, 02:03 AM
Faraday QUOTE (CanRay @ Feb 8 2011, 06:03 PM) ... Feb 9 2011, 02:54 AM
CanRay 35 people IIRC, all of age, one an instructor supp... Feb 9 2011, 03:17 AM
Faraday What the hell were you people doing? O_o Feb 9 2011, 03:30 AM
CanRay Working on robots in High School. I was in the ad... Feb 9 2011, 04:01 AM
Faraday QUOTE (CanRay @ Feb 8 2011, 08:01 PM) Wor... Feb 9 2011, 04:07 AM
CanRay Yeah... Yes it was. Hindsight, I think he though... Feb 9 2011, 04:09 AM
phlapjack77 don't try to put a new plug on a dryer with th... Feb 9 2011, 08:56 AM
phlapjack77 see? It even makes you double post Feb 9 2011, 08:56 AM
Omenowl I have only been hit by the 3 joule electric fence... Feb 9 2011, 03:08 PM
darthmord QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 9 2011, 10:08 AM) I ... Feb 9 2011, 06:07 PM
Yerameyahu But I just met 'er! … -alore. :/ Feb 9 2011, 03:25 PM
StealthSigma QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 9 2011, 10:25 AM)... Feb 9 2011, 03:35 PM
Doc Chase QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Feb 9 2011, 03:35 P... Feb 9 2011, 06:23 PM
StealthSigma QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Feb 9 2011, 01:23 PM) ... Feb 9 2011, 06:40 PM
KarmaInferno On the ground, dropping a heavy metal plate across... Feb 9 2011, 03:32 PM
jaellot QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Feb 9 2011, 10:32 A... Feb 9 2011, 03:42 PM

Stahlseele QUOTE (jaellot @ Feb 9 2011, 04:42 PM) Do... Feb 9 2011, 05:33 PM
kzt QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Feb 9 2011, 08:32 A... Feb 10 2011, 12:56 AM
CanRay If it's thick enough, you can use the floor ma... Feb 9 2011, 04:35 PM
CanRay Wish that had been the case in some of my classes.... Feb 9 2011, 06:14 PM
CanRay Doc, that was beautiful! Feb 9 2011, 06:28 PM
Doc Chase QUOTE (CanRay @ Feb 9 2011, 07:28 PM) Doc... Feb 9 2011, 06:29 PM
CanRay Hey, I wasn't sure I would be able to get ... Feb 9 2011, 06:33 PM
Doc Chase The company's being audited today, so writing ... Feb 9 2011, 06:40 PM
CanRay Hell, you're making art. That's never a w... Feb 9 2011, 06:43 PM
Doc Chase I'll have to edit it a bit more, but as a roug... Feb 9 2011, 06:56 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Feb 9 2011, 11:56 AM) ... Feb 9 2011, 07:38 PM
TeknoDragon Traditional barbed wire, not quite as bad as 5P fo... Feb 9 2011, 08:18 PM
Stahlseele it would melt. Feb 9 2011, 08:19 PM
TeknoDragon QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Feb 9 2011, 03:19 PM)... Feb 9 2011, 10:39 PM
Xahn Borealis Possessed monowire, with ItNW and Energy Aura and ... Feb 9 2011, 08:33 PM
pbangarth I have little experience with coiled concertina wi... Feb 9 2011, 08:53 PM
WhiskeyMac Being a combat engineer, laying concertina wire an... Feb 9 2011, 10:34 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (WhiskeyMac @ Feb 9 2011, 03:34 PM)... Feb 9 2011, 11:07 PM
Brazilian_Shinobi QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Feb 9 2011, 03:23 PM) ... Feb 9 2011, 11:07 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Feb 9 2011, 04... Feb 9 2011, 11:10 PM
Doc Chase QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Feb 9 2011, 11... Feb 9 2011, 11:50 PM
CanRay Yeah, but who does a job properly any more? Feb 10 2011, 02:37 AM
Saint Sithney QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 7 2011, 06:29 PM) I ... Feb 10 2011, 05:38 AM
Omenowl QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Feb 9 2011, 11:38 ... Feb 10 2011, 11:59 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 10 2011, 04:59 AM) E... Feb 10 2011, 01:52 PM
Omenowl QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 10 2011, 07... Feb 10 2011, 11:13 PM
Yerameyahu Indeed. As I also said, 5P isn't hurting anyon... Feb 10 2011, 03:04 PM
Yerameyahu I'm sure I already said it, but the guns get +... Feb 10 2011, 11:17 PM
Omenowl QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 10 2011, 05:17 PM... Feb 10 2011, 11:27 PM
Yerameyahu And I'm saying, the only people in the game ar... Feb 10 2011, 11:44 PM
Omenowl QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 10 2011, 05:44 PM... Feb 11 2011, 12:08 AM
Yerameyahu Nope, bullets will have net hits.
It's not l... Feb 11 2011, 12:17 AM
Omenowl QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 10 2011, 06:17 PM... Feb 11 2011, 12:33 AM
Sephiroth Because death is cheap in Shadowrun, and corporate... Feb 11 2011, 12:18 AM
Omenowl QUOTE (Sephiroth @ Feb 10 2011, 06:18 PM)... Feb 11 2011, 12:34 AM
Sephiroth QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 10 2011, 08:34 PM) H... Feb 11 2011, 12:44 AM
Yerameyahu I think you'll find that suppressive fire is t... Feb 11 2011, 12:38 AM
Yerameyahu That does make sense. No reason to assume that SR4... Feb 11 2011, 12:50 AM
Omenowl QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 10 2011, 06:50 PM... Feb 11 2011, 02:27 AM
Yerameyahu So, you're saying that the razor wire of SR4 i... Feb 11 2011, 02:40 AM
Omenowl QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 10 2011, 08:40 PM... Feb 11 2011, 05:28 AM
Whipstitch It's all dikoted. /thread Feb 11 2011, 02:48 AM
Faraday QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Feb 10 2011, 06:48 PM... Feb 11 2011, 03:04 AM
CanRay I never got to play with dikote... Feb 11 2011, 03:32 AM
Yerameyahu That's just good parenting. You'd shoot yo... Feb 11 2011, 03:55 AM
CanRay No, I'd shoot someone else's eye out. And... Feb 11 2011, 03:57 AM
Faraday QUOTE (CanRay @ Feb 10 2011, 07:57 PM) No... Feb 11 2011, 04:17 AM
Yerameyahu No, see, child labor laws. Feb 11 2011, 04:26 AM
Fortinbras Have you seen Awakened cows?!?!
Barbed wir... Feb 11 2011, 06:35 AM
Jhaiisiin hell-bovine stampede! Feb 11 2011, 06:38 AM
InfinityzeN Having extensive personal experience with razor wi... Feb 11 2011, 10:28 PM
CanRay QUOTE (InfinityzeN @ Feb 11 2011, 06:28 P... Feb 11 2011, 10:47 PM
Jhaiisiin Stupidity should be far more painful and/or lethal... Feb 12 2011, 05:26 AM
CanRay QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Feb 12 2011, 01:26 AM)... Feb 12 2011, 05:54 AM
Fortinbras Back in the early 80's my dad used to write a ... Feb 12 2011, 06:03 AM
CanRay I remember a story that was going around about a R... Feb 12 2011, 06:14 AM
CanRay And sometimes it causes double-posts. Feb 12 2011, 06:14 AM![]() ![]() |
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