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post Jun 15 2011, 03:30 PM
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I'm pretty sure that by RAW a mage in astral space can't add counterspell D to targets of a spell on the physical plane?!?

I'm also reasonably sure that in previous versions of SR it was possible to intercept spells as the mana was channelled through the astral...

I'm considering a house rule for my Emerging games that allows (an NPC in this case) half counter spell D to be given across the astral divide as they 'astrally jam' the area against hostile spells.

Is this completely out of order / game balance disrupting? I know it runs the risk of mages staying remote from the action and just going in to counterspell / spirit attack so I thought I'd see if anyone has tried this or has strong feelings about how it would work/not work (after all DS is full of people with strong feelings (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )

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- Aria   Counterspelling from Astral   Jun 15 2011, 03:30 PM
- - pbangarth   I think it was a good move to limit a magician...   Jun 15 2011, 03:40 PM
- - HunterHerne   Also, there is the fact that projecting magicians ...   Jun 15 2011, 06:17 PM
|- - James McMurray   QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Jun 15 2011, 01:17 P...   Jun 15 2011, 06:22 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (James McMurray @ Jun 15 2011, 11:2...   Jun 15 2011, 06:31 PM
- - HunterHerne   Fair enough.   Jun 15 2011, 07:13 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Actually there is no restriction that the mage has...   Jun 15 2011, 11:04 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 15 2011, 05:04 P...   Jun 16 2011, 02:32 AM
|- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 15 2011, 06:04 P...   Jun 16 2011, 03:25 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Jun 16 2011, 11:25 AM) We...   Jun 16 2011, 07:08 AM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 16 2011, 04...   Jun 16 2011, 07:23 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 16 2011, 12:23 A...   Jun 16 2011, 12:46 PM
|- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 16 2011, 07...   Jun 16 2011, 02:04 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (James McMurray @ Jun 16 2011, 07:0...   Jun 16 2011, 02:36 PM
|- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 16 2011, 09...   Jun 16 2011, 02:47 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   I'm of two minds on this as i agree that there...   Jun 15 2011, 11:46 PM
- - LostProxy   I would allow them to counter spell while projecti...   Jun 16 2011, 05:55 AM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (LostProxy @ Jun 15 2011, 11:55 PM)...   Jun 16 2011, 07:48 AM
|- - Aria   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jun 16 2011, 08:4...   Jun 16 2011, 08:30 AM
|- - LostProxy   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jun 16 2011, 12:4...   Jun 16 2011, 08:39 AM
- - Dakka Dakka   This does not prove anything. It only shows that t...   Jun 16 2011, 02:44 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 16 2011, 07:44 A...   Jun 16 2011, 02:47 PM
|- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 16 2011, 09...   Jun 16 2011, 02:54 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (James McMurray @ Jun 16 2011, 07:5...   Jun 16 2011, 03:12 PM
|- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 16 2011, 10...   Jun 16 2011, 05:25 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 16 2011, 11...   Jun 17 2011, 04:28 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 16 2011, 09:28 PM) Ca...   Jun 17 2011, 01:04 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 17 2011, 09...   Jun 17 2011, 04:09 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 17 2011, 09:09 AM) I ...   Jun 17 2011, 05:13 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 18 2011, 01...   Jun 18 2011, 12:22 AM
- - pbangarth   I dunno, page 185 of SR4A, "A protected chara...   Jun 16 2011, 03:51 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Jun 16 2011, 08:51 AM)...   Jun 16 2011, 03:51 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Then again sight is impossible on the astral plane...   Jun 16 2011, 04:30 PM
|- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 16 2011, 11:30 A...   Jun 16 2011, 11:01 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Jun 17 2011, 07:01 AM) Ex...   Jun 17 2011, 04:20 AM
- - UmaroVI   I don't think it explicitly spells it out anyw...   Jun 16 2011, 04:49 PM
- - Aria   ...and still nobody has mentioned SR2 or 3...I...   Jun 17 2011, 07:57 AM
|- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Aria @ Jun 17 2011, 03:57 AM) ...a...   Jun 18 2011, 05:34 AM
- - Aria   Fair enough...it sounds like it wouldn't be a ...   Jun 17 2011, 02:37 PM
- - Bigity   Yes but that's ritual spell-casting, which is ...   Jun 18 2011, 02:57 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Bigity @ Jun 18 2011, 10:57 AM) Ye...   Jun 18 2011, 04:29 AM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 17 2011, 10:29 PM) It...   Jun 18 2011, 04:02 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Bigity @ Jun 18 2011, 09:02 AM) It...   Jun 18 2011, 05:30 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 19 2011, 01...   Jun 19 2011, 02:10 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 18 2011, 08:10 PM) In...   Jun 19 2011, 03:17 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 19 2011, 11...   Jun 19 2011, 06:37 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 18 2011, 11:37 PM) Ho...   Jun 19 2011, 01:58 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 19 2011, 09...   Jun 19 2011, 02:24 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 19 2011, 07:24 AM) Th...   Jun 19 2011, 02:38 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 19 2011, 10...   Jun 19 2011, 03:38 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 19 2011, 08:38 AM) I ...   Jun 19 2011, 04:04 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 20 2011, 12...   Jun 20 2011, 02:50 AM
- - TheOOB   As with most issues, the book explains all you nee...   Jun 20 2011, 06:15 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Jun 19 2011, 11:15 PM) Th...   Jun 20 2011, 01:00 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 20 2011, 09...   Jun 20 2011, 02:29 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 20 2011, 07:29 AM) No...   Jun 20 2011, 02:30 PM
|- - KeyMasterOfGozer   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 20 2011, 09...   Jun 20 2011, 07:49 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (KeyMasterOfGozer @ Jun 20 2011, 01...   Jun 20 2011, 08:06 PM
||- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 20 2011, 03...   Jun 21 2011, 01:56 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Jun 20 2011, 07:56 PM) Ex...   Jun 21 2011, 03:02 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 20 2011, 10...   Jun 21 2011, 02:18 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 20 2011, 08:18 PM) Un...   Jun 21 2011, 03:02 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 21 2011, 11...   Jun 21 2011, 08:38 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 21 2011, 01:38 AM) I ...   Jun 21 2011, 12:53 PM
- - Bigity   I've never seen someone else pushing the idea ...   Jun 21 2011, 12:59 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Bigity @ Jun 21 2011, 05:59 AM) I...   Jun 21 2011, 01:16 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   How dare you insult the brilliant librarian by com...   Jun 21 2011, 01:38 PM
- - Bigity   Because it's a very obvious assumption and wri...   Jun 21 2011, 02:06 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Exactly... Since the Spotter does not remain in th...   Jun 21 2011, 02:12 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   The rules don't support your claim though. Yes...   Jun 21 2011, 02:20 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 21 2011, 07:20 A...   Jun 21 2011, 02:52 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Following your logic ritual spellcasting should be...   Jun 21 2011, 04:12 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 21 2011, 09:12 A...   Jun 21 2011, 05:30 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   I understand that it probably should be that way, ...   Jun 21 2011, 05:48 PM
- - TheOOB   The rules say that the spotter must be one of the ...   Jun 21 2011, 06:24 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Jun 21 2011, 11:24 AM) Th...   Jun 21 2011, 08:35 PM
- - Bigity   Where does it say that about the spotter?   Jun 21 2011, 07:20 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   TheOOB quoted it in post 53 I did it in post 67. I...   Jun 21 2011, 08:48 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 21 2011, 01:48 P...   Jun 21 2011, 08:58 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   The spotter: -must be "a member of the group ...   Jun 21 2011, 09:17 PM
- - Bigity   Does casting begin the same time the ritual begins...   Jun 21 2011, 09:21 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Who knows? The rules say nothing definite.   Jun 21 2011, 09:29 PM
- - Bigity   Maybe not in this edition. Pretty sure other edit...   Jun 21 2011, 09:30 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Group does not Equal Team... And yes, they have be...   Jun 21 2011, 09:39 PM
- - TheOOB   QUOTE "The individual acting as the spotter m...   Jun 21 2011, 11:58 PM
- - Bigity   I concede the point there, but it's rather lik...   Jun 22 2011, 01:08 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Bigity @ Jun 21 2011, 07:08 PM) I ...   Jun 22 2011, 02:22 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Bigity @ Jun 22 2011, 09:08 AM) Th...   Jun 22 2011, 03:47 AM
- - tagz   QUOTE "The individual acting as the spotter m...   Jun 22 2011, 02:30 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I dunno, that seems like a stretch. Does ritual so...   Jun 22 2011, 03:10 AM

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