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Tashiro
post Aug 23 2011, 03:57 AM
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I have a possession-based tradition character in my SR game, who tends to summon Force 10-14 spirits. He's mentioned that if it possesses an object, the object has no 'augmented maximum', so it gets the full benefit of augmented traits. Is this true? I was wondering if the item could only get a 50% increase (or perhaps double) the actual trait.

Can you use a Force 14 spirit to make an indestructible marshmallow? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead.gif)
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- Tashiro   Possessing Objects   Aug 23 2011, 03:57 AM
- - Yerameyahu   … I'm sorry, I couldn't get beyond the inc...   Aug 23 2011, 04:12 AM
|- - DMiller   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 23 2011, 01:12 PM...   Aug 23 2011, 04:42 AM
|- - Tashiro   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 22 2011, 11:12 PM...   Aug 23 2011, 05:22 AM
- - Dakka Dakka   Even without Edge, the expected drain for Force 14...   Aug 23 2011, 01:55 PM
|- - Tashiro   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Aug 23 2011, 08:55 A...   Aug 23 2011, 02:37 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Aug 23 2011, 08:37 AM) W...   Aug 23 2011, 02:46 PM
|- - Seerow   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 23 2011, 02...   Aug 23 2011, 03:17 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 23 2011, 04...   Aug 23 2011, 04:15 PM
|- - Tashiro   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Aug 23 2011, 11:15 AM) O...   Aug 23 2011, 04:40 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Aug 23 2011, 09:40 AM) I...   Aug 23 2011, 04:42 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   A gun probably won't get any bonuses but you c...   Aug 23 2011, 03:25 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Aug 23 2011, 09:25 A...   Aug 23 2011, 03:31 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Aug 22 2011, 10:57 PM) I...   Aug 23 2011, 03:31 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 23 2011, 05...   Aug 23 2011, 03:47 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Aug 23 2011, 08:47 A...   Aug 23 2011, 04:38 PM
- - Tashiro   A vehicle that is possessed gets an increase in Sp...   Aug 23 2011, 04:05 PM
- - CrystalBlue   I think he's meaning that, instead of having t...   Aug 23 2011, 04:20 PM
- - Christian Lafay   I was unaware that possessing spirits increase the...   Aug 23 2011, 04:54 PM
- - Yerameyahu   What? You obviously can't add more mods. The B...   Aug 23 2011, 06:49 PM
- - Christian Lafay   This is Shadowrun, good sir. "Obvious" c...   Aug 23 2011, 07:02 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Hehe. I know that you mean it's often *ignored...   Aug 23 2011, 07:32 PM
- - Tanegar   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Aug 22 2011, 10:57 PM) I...   Aug 23 2011, 07:35 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I'm still dying to see the dice rolls that hav...   Aug 23 2011, 07:38 PM
|- - Seerow   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 23 2011, 07:38 PM...   Aug 23 2011, 07:44 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 23 2011, 12:38 PM...   Aug 23 2011, 07:53 PM
- - Mardrax   Blood magic could, off the top of my head. But whe...   Aug 23 2011, 07:53 PM
- - pbangarth   Even if he is just Summoning, and not Binding, soo...   Aug 23 2011, 08:17 PM
- - Tanegar   Remember to add grisly descriptions of the spirit ...   Aug 23 2011, 08:51 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   Also remember the rules about having spirits spend...   Aug 23 2011, 11:48 PM
- - UmaroVI   The rules are super unclear about what does and do...   Aug 23 2011, 11:54 PM
- - Hound   I'm pretty sure I remember seeing a thing abou...   Aug 24 2011, 12:27 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's the only thing that definitely doesn...   Aug 24 2011, 12:37 PM
|- - Hound   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 24 2011, 08:37 AM...   Aug 24 2011, 12:50 PM
- - Yerameyahu   To clarify, those things do 'happen', just...   Aug 24 2011, 01:05 PM
|- - Hound   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 24 2011, 09:05 AM...   Aug 24 2011, 01:08 PM
|- - Dahrken   QUOTE (Hound @ Aug 24 2011, 03:08 PM) for...   Aug 24 2011, 05:51 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I dig, I'm just telling you that those are non...   Aug 24 2011, 01:22 PM
|- - Hound   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 24 2011, 09:22 AM...   Aug 24 2011, 01:37 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Hound @ Aug 24 2011, 03:37 PM) fai...   Aug 24 2011, 02:04 PM
|- - Hound   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Aug 24 2011, 10:04 A...   Aug 24 2011, 02:09 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 24 2011, 04:07 PM...   Aug 24 2011, 02:14 PM
|- - Tashiro   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Aug 24 2011, 09:14 A...   Aug 24 2011, 02:30 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Sure, but it'll get bored. They need proper s...   Aug 24 2011, 02:07 PM
|- - Cheops   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 24 2011, 02:07 PM...   Aug 24 2011, 02:38 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The armor *does*. But the armor having ITNW doesn...   Aug 24 2011, 02:37 PM
|- - Hound   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 24 2011, 10:37 AM...   Aug 24 2011, 02:38 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Don't sugarcoat it: the rules in many places a...   Aug 24 2011, 02:44 PM
- - Minimax le Rouge   a materialized fire spirit is in melee range of is...   Aug 25 2011, 02:08 PM
|- - Dahrken   QUOTE (Minimax le Rouge @ Aug 25 2011, 04...   Aug 25 2011, 05:55 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Dahrken @ Aug 25 2011, 07:55 PM) S...   Aug 25 2011, 06:19 PM
|- - Minimax le Rouge   QUOTE (Dahrken @ Aug 25 2011, 07:55 PM) T...   Aug 26 2011, 07:23 AM
- - Tashiro   If I had to guess, for possession, it works like m...   Aug 25 2011, 02:46 PM
|- - Bodak   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Aug 26 2011, 12:46 AM) I...   Aug 30 2011, 05:28 AM
- - Dahrken   Fringe cases can be a source of endless fun with R...   Aug 25 2011, 06:40 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You can't possess just part of a whole.   Aug 26 2011, 01:40 PM
- - Minimax le Rouge   And why not? It's not a monobloc object. If a...   Aug 26 2011, 02:47 PM
|- - Tashiro   QUOTE (Minimax le Rouge @ Aug 26 2011, 10...   Aug 26 2011, 03:33 PM
|- - Minimax le Rouge   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Aug 26 2011, 05:33 PM) A...   Aug 26 2011, 04:04 PM
- - Tanegar   It's been consistent, AFAIK, through all editi...   Aug 26 2011, 06:10 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Aug 26 2011, 02:10 PM) I...   Aug 26 2011, 06:44 PM
- - Tashiro   Hmm. I wonder if 'Destroy Hand' would be ...   Aug 26 2011, 06:54 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Aug 26 2011, 08:54 PM) H...   Aug 27 2011, 04:17 PM
- - Yerameyahu   No. As a basic principle, magic doesn't work o...   Aug 26 2011, 07:19 PM
- - Tashiro   Reading the book, it mentioned that physical ratin...   Aug 27 2011, 03:58 PM
- - pbangarth   "Physical rating" is about the intrinsic...   Aug 27 2011, 04:08 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   You are correct on the description but Gear rating...   Aug 27 2011, 04:15 PM
- - Yerameyahu   AFAIK, there are no definitions for 'physical ...   Aug 27 2011, 04:47 PM
- - Tanegar   IMO, this is making an already verging-on-broken m...   Aug 27 2011, 07:00 PM


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