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post Sep 21 2011, 03:34 AM
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Now I'm a whipper snapper (early 90's kid) compared to most of the people around and when I started playing table top it was late 3.5 early 4E DnD. Got into Shadowrun not long after that and ever since I did I've seen people complaining about some lost complexity. One thing that I see come up time and time again is about how the decks would grow with the hacker or something along those lines. How the decks separated the wage slave computer nerds from real matrix masters. Could someone please explain this to me? I do not have the time to read through an entire edition to find the answer to one question.
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- LostProxy   3rd Edition Decks   Sep 21 2011, 03:34 AM
- - LostProxy   Now I'm a whipper snapper (early 90's kid)...   Sep 21 2011, 03:34 AM
- - Seerow   I did play 3e and I don't get what the love fo...   Sep 21 2011, 03:37 AM
|- - Neurosis   QUOTE (Seerow @ Sep 20 2011, 10:37 PM) I ...   Sep 22 2011, 10:51 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's just nostalgia. Decks were hugely expensi...   Sep 21 2011, 03:50 AM
- - ggodo   It's the same thing with the computer tech buf...   Sep 21 2011, 03:56 AM
- - phlapjack77   Probably some of the nostalgia came from all of th...   Sep 21 2011, 03:58 AM
- - CanRay   Ask Bull.   Sep 21 2011, 04:05 AM
|- - LostProxy   QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 20 2011, 09:05 PM) As...   Sep 21 2011, 04:29 AM
- - LostProxy   That's too bad :/ I was hoping to reverse engi...   Sep 21 2011, 04:28 AM
- - Medicineman   I like the idea of elite machines capable of more ...   Sep 21 2011, 05:13 AM
- - Fatum   >needs to read a single section of a single rul...   Sep 21 2011, 06:36 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   I believe on the the whole the decks aren't mi...   Sep 21 2011, 06:51 AM
- - Fortinbras   Rule #1 of Shadowrun: The Decker Always Dies! ...   Sep 21 2011, 07:46 AM
- - Bigity   'Decking' and the associated hardware is j...   Sep 21 2011, 01:46 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The thing is, everyone starts at or near the top i...   Sep 21 2011, 01:59 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 21 2011, 06:59 AM...   Sep 21 2011, 02:13 PM
- - suoq   Note: I went from SR1 to SR4. What has consistent...   Sep 21 2011, 02:05 PM
- - KarmaInferno   I think that ship sailed in 2nd edition, suoq, whe...   Sep 21 2011, 02:08 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   For Elite, use a Nexus. They are a bit less portab...   Sep 21 2011, 02:09 PM
- - Bigity   Uh, since you couldn't build custom decks duri...   Sep 21 2011, 02:15 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Bigity @ Sep 21 2011, 07:15 AM) Uh...   Sep 21 2011, 03:24 PM
|- - Seerow   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 21 2011, 04...   Sep 21 2011, 03:35 PM
- - Medicineman   Could one of the Mods merge these 2 Threads please...   Sep 21 2011, 02:23 PM
|- - LostProxy   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Sep 21 2011, 06:23 A...   Sep 21 2011, 10:55 PM
- - Seerow   QUOTE As 3d printers become common in the real wor...   Sep 21 2011, 02:26 PM
- - Yerameyahu   See, what bothers *me* is when a future/sci-fi set...   Sep 21 2011, 02:33 PM
- - Bigity   Sure, but is that something you want to change in ...   Sep 21 2011, 02:43 PM
- - Cheops   Incoming IMO and YMMV: Cyberdecks, being cruder t...   Sep 21 2011, 03:05 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   Here's why deckers are now and will always be ...   Sep 21 2011, 03:06 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Sep 21 2011, 10:0...   Sep 21 2011, 04:37 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   By the way, decks were introduced because the guys...   Sep 21 2011, 03:09 PM
- - Cheops   Meh, if I wanted reality I'd be taking Compute...   Sep 21 2011, 03:16 PM
- - Yerameyahu   LurkerOutThere, you're just being silly there....   Sep 21 2011, 03:43 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 21 2011, 08:43 AM...   Sep 21 2011, 03:53 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You can cheat *using* the rules.   Sep 21 2011, 03:57 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 21 2011, 08:57 AM...   Sep 21 2011, 04:10 PM
- - Seerow   Okay I wasn't aware of the option for edge to ...   Sep 21 2011, 04:00 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Seerow @ Sep 21 2011, 09:00 AM) Ok...   Sep 21 2011, 04:13 PM
- - suoq   I thought he was being ironic since, after all, a ...   Sep 21 2011, 04:55 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE One thing that I see come up time and time a...   Sep 21 2011, 05:21 PM
- - Method   Merged.   Sep 21 2011, 05:29 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE I know there were people as early as 82 who ...   Sep 21 2011, 07:23 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (hermit @ Sep 21 2011, 01:23 PM) Bu...   Sep 22 2011, 08:13 AM
|- - hermit   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Sep 22 2011, 10:1...   Sep 22 2011, 07:56 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (hermit @ Sep 22 2011, 02:56 PM) Re...   Sep 22 2011, 10:00 PM
|- - suoq   More pre-1982, Fell free to report me as well. ht...   Sep 22 2011, 10:40 PM
- - Infornography   Shadowrun 4 is not as wireless as you might think....   Sep 21 2011, 08:33 PM
- - tete   I don't miss the decks as much as I miss the M...   Sep 21 2011, 09:08 PM
- - Ascalaphus   I don't have actual nostalgia, since I started...   Sep 21 2011, 10:34 PM
|- - Seerow   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Sep 21 2011, 11:34 PM...   Sep 21 2011, 10:37 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (Seerow @ Sep 21 2011, 04:37 PM) Eh...   Sep 22 2011, 01:42 PM
|- - Cheops   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Sep 22 2011, 02:4...   Sep 22 2011, 03:24 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cheops @ Sep 22 2011, 09:24 AM) I...   Sep 22 2011, 03:45 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Not Clustering, Nexi. A low-end nexus would give y...   Sep 21 2011, 10:48 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 22 2011, 12:48 AM...   Sep 22 2011, 09:47 AM
- - Stahlseele   Know why the Combat Decker was an Ork in SR3? Beca...   Sep 21 2011, 11:09 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 21 2011, 06:09 PM...   Sep 21 2011, 11:16 PM
||- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 22 2011, 01:16 AM) Ow...   Sep 21 2011, 11:17 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 21 2011, 05:09 PM...   Sep 21 2011, 11:17 PM
|- - Seerow   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 22 2011, 12:09 AM...   Sep 21 2011, 11:23 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Um. There *is* armor and stuff for the SR4 commlin...   Sep 21 2011, 11:26 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 21 2011, 06:26 PM...   Sep 21 2011, 11:51 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Hell, install the commlink inside a baseball bat, ...   Sep 22 2011, 12:05 AM
- - Ascalaphus   Yes, but the Response/Availability ratio on the ne...   Sep 22 2011, 11:38 AM
- - suoq   Why would anyone connect their "paydata...   Sep 22 2011, 03:53 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (suoq @ Sep 22 2011, 09:53 AM) Why ...   Sep 22 2011, 04:05 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (suoq @ Sep 22 2011, 10:53 AM) Why ...   Sep 22 2011, 04:11 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 22 2011, 11:11 AM) No...   Sep 22 2011, 04:20 PM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (suoq @ Sep 22 2011, 08:20 PM) Are ...   Sep 22 2011, 10:48 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Fatum @ Sep 22 2011, 05:48 PM) it...   Sep 22 2011, 11:12 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Fatum @ Sep 22 2011, 05:48 PM) Uh,...   Sep 23 2011, 12:19 AM
- - hobgoblin   For some reason, SR4 dropped some of the "tri...   Sep 22 2011, 04:40 PM
|- - Cheops   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Sep 22 2011, 04:40 PM)...   Sep 22 2011, 09:33 PM
- - Pendaric   Decking third ed was more interesting from an arti...   Sep 22 2011, 11:19 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   I never understood the argument about deck size be...   Sep 23 2011, 01:03 AM
- - CanRay   The high-end CommLinks should be a lot more expens...   Sep 23 2011, 01:49 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 23 2011, 01:49 AM) Th...   Sep 23 2011, 01:14 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (Sengir @ Sep 23 2011, 07:14 AM) Us...   Sep 23 2011, 03:12 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Bigity @ Sep 23 2011, 05:12 PM) I ...   Sep 23 2011, 04:23 PM
||- - Bigity   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Sep 23 2011, 10:23 AM)...   Sep 23 2011, 04:28 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Bigity @ Sep 23 2011, 03:12 PM) I ...   Sep 23 2011, 11:50 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (Sengir @ Sep 23 2011, 06:50 PM) IM...   Sep 25 2011, 03:00 AM
- - Medicineman   why not a Compromise(a Kind of Houserule) ? Comlin...   Sep 23 2011, 06:57 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE More's law actually was a around a lot e...   Sep 23 2011, 10:23 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Yeah, Medicineman, that's probably the easiest...   Sep 23 2011, 01:27 PM
- - Wakshaani   One of the "Old farts who started in '89...   Sep 23 2011, 03:27 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Sep 23 2011, 05:27 PM)...   Sep 23 2011, 04:30 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Just don't let the PCs get mil-spec gear. It...   Sep 25 2011, 04:00 AM
- - LostProxy   A lot of the gear they have already would be calle...   Sep 25 2011, 04:03 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (LostProxy @ Sep 24 2011, 11:03 PM)...   Sep 25 2011, 04:04 AM
- - CanRay   Yeah, I learned the hard way that having a contact...   Sep 25 2011, 04:04 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Who said it was different? They shouldn't have...   Sep 25 2011, 04:09 AM
- - CanRay   What about MPUVs? They're MilSpec, but not ov...   Sep 25 2011, 04:10 AM
- - LostProxy   I was talking more about stuff like MBW, Military ...   Sep 25 2011, 04:13 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Like I just said. And it's not just programs, ...   Sep 25 2011, 04:21 AM
- - KarmaInferno   Command 10 is an AR rigger's wet dream. -k   Sep 25 2011, 04:34 AM
- - Yerameyahu   And you can't take your HMG, your mil-spec har...   Sep 25 2011, 04:37 AM
- - Stahlseele   isn't software limited by the device rating an...   Sep 25 2011, 09:20 AM
- - Medicineman   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 25 2011, 05:20 AM...   Sep 25 2011, 09:24 AM
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