Nov 3 2011, 02:25 PM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
Not to pick on any one user but this caught my attention:
QUOTE Doesn't the world of SR4A have a flavor text stating that EVERYONE carries some sort of firearm for protection? If so, then it's not surprising if people started making their weapons like accessories & matching some pieces with some clothes/shoes. Easy to see a corp bunny with a pink, blinged out Colt L36 that perfectly matches her shoes for that night out at Cub Penumbra. Now this sticks in my craw for a few reasons. So I want to open up a discussion on how everyone sees the game world and just how armed it really is, and when. So for my own view point-which is similar to the post above-but with some differences. I think it wouldn't be uncommon to be armed outside of corporate enclaves and government strongholds. Despite the flavor text-in one of the rare few cases I have a major disagreement with the "Fluff" as it were-I see no reason why anyone would allow anything heavier than what we currently see in society now a days. Obviously because of the fracturing of society as we know it, and the balkanization of both governments and corporations (Something I think gets way over played at some points. Yes they'd be adversarial but just like today it's better to reign in hell than let someone else in on the game. Some cooperation would exist-even if it was twisted, and oft times self serving.) So while I think it wouldn't be uncommon for the average SINner to own a small arm, or even a fancy knife or ceremonial sword-I doubt too much they'd be allowed to walk around willy nilly showing off their hardware in areas where organized society and law enforcement exist. And despite the seemingly easy going atmosphere in most Shadowrun authors fictional portrayal of the world booze and weapons don't mix. Even in poorer areas I suspect there would be a heavy stigma against, if not an out right ban on brandishing weaponry in a nightclub or other establishment. Now I'm sure someone will throw the barrens in my face. And I agree to every rule there are exceptions. but say you're running a bar, even in the barrens and a bunch of cats keep showing up with automatic weapons, and pounding brews while they plot felonies they'd like to commit. Why do you stay in business? what's to stop them from taking your business? Killing you? I'm sure the more enterprising of you will say-well I'd fight! I'd hire muscle! And BHAM! we enter the never ending cycle of war right? In the end for my dollar Shadowrun is a dangerous world, and a world where automatic weapons are more easily acquired. But its' not one where you walk around brandishing your arms like a knight one horse in a medieval village. But every table is different. What are your views? |
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Paul Shadowrun Setting: An Armed Society? Nov 3 2011, 02:25 PM
Blade It was never really clear to me if (and if so whic... Nov 3 2011, 02:41 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein I have always viewed it that Pistols are very comm... Nov 3 2011, 02:51 PM
Nath QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Nov 3 2011, 03... Nov 3 2011, 07:00 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Nath @ Nov 3 2011, 01:00 PM) But i... Nov 3 2011, 07:59 PM

Bull QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Nov 3 2011, 02... Nov 3 2011, 08:31 PM
EKBT81 QUOTE (Nath @ Nov 3 2011, 08:00 PM) In so... Nov 3 2011, 09:40 PM
Daylen QUOTE (Nath @ Nov 3 2011, 07:00 PM) But i... Nov 4 2011, 03:38 PM
CanRay With the exception of Ares, I don't see the AA... Nov 3 2011, 03:18 PM
MK Ultra I play seattle mostly, and run it low key. basic a... Nov 3 2011, 04:02 PM
JonathanC I'd say that SINless are probably more likely ... Nov 3 2011, 04:38 PM
Paul I imagine a funny scene in which the armed employe... Nov 3 2011, 04:43 PM
JonathanC QUOTE (Paul @ Nov 3 2011, 09:43 AM) I ima... Nov 3 2011, 05:03 PM
Paul QUOTE (JonathanC @ Nov 3 2011, 12:03 PM) ... Nov 3 2011, 05:20 PM
Hida Tsuzua Considering the prevalence of high end high armore... Nov 3 2011, 05:07 PM
Bull One of the early SR books... I want to say it was... Nov 3 2011, 05:12 PM
Saint Hallow Thanks for bringing this up as it's always som... Nov 3 2011, 06:11 PM
kzt The SR fluff is kind of contradictory on a bunch o... Nov 3 2011, 07:26 PM
cleggster If you need to know for a game, you could always r... Nov 3 2011, 07:37 PM
Sengir QUOTE (cleggster @ Nov 3 2011, 08:37 PM) ... Nov 4 2011, 12:55 PM
Warlordtheft QUOTE (Sengir @ Nov 4 2011, 07:55 AM) Yep... Nov 4 2011, 02:20 PM
nezumi I imagine it's like everything else in SR; if ... Nov 3 2011, 07:46 PM
CanRay In the Barrens, walking down the street with an AK... Nov 3 2011, 09:14 PM
Mayhem_2006 Reminds me somewhat of the Underground setting whe... Nov 4 2011, 05:44 AM
Midas Don't disagree with most of the posts so far, ... Nov 4 2011, 07:20 AM
Ascalaphus QUOTE (Midas @ Nov 4 2011, 09:20 AM) Don... Nov 4 2011, 10:42 AM
Daylen QUOTE (Midas @ Nov 4 2011, 07:20 AM) Don... Nov 4 2011, 03:31 PM
Hida Tsuzua If you go with the enclave model of SR life, it le... Nov 4 2011, 03:01 PM
Daylen QUOTE (Hida Tsuzua @ Nov 4 2011, 03:01 PM... Nov 4 2011, 03:35 PM
Hida Tsuzua QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 4 2011, 04:35 PM) Not... Nov 4 2011, 05:46 PM
Paul I'm curious when any of you see a (wo)man with... Nov 4 2011, 06:31 PM
Daylen QUOTE (Paul @ Nov 4 2011, 06:31 PM) I... Nov 4 2011, 07:31 PM

Paul QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 4 2011, 02:31 PM) Wha... Nov 4 2011, 08:21 PM

Daylen QUOTE (Paul @ Nov 4 2011, 08:21 PM) I don... Nov 4 2011, 09:00 PM
nezumi QUOTE (Paul @ Nov 4 2011, 01:31 PM) I... Nov 7 2011, 02:55 PM
Paul I didn't notice much difference when I lived d... Nov 4 2011, 10:04 PM
Hida Tsuzua There is a difference between being respectful and... Nov 4 2011, 11:28 PM
Daylen QUOTE (Hida Tsuzua @ Nov 4 2011, 11:28 PM... Nov 5 2011, 01:41 AM
kzt QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 4 2011, 06:41 PM) In ... Nov 5 2011, 02:58 AM
Daylen QUOTE (kzt @ Nov 5 2011, 03:58 AM) It... Nov 5 2011, 01:37 PM
CanRay Watch the Subway scene in Predator II. That's... Nov 4 2011, 11:34 PM
Daylen QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 4 2011, 11:34 PM) Wat... Nov 5 2011, 01:23 AM
CanRay QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 4 2011, 06:34 PM) Wat... Nov 5 2011, 02:32 AM
Daylen For those that think SR is fairly well armed: do y... Nov 5 2011, 03:58 PM
Brazilian_Shinobi QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 5 2011, 12:58 PM) Or ... Nov 5 2011, 04:49 PM

CanRay QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Nov 5 2011, 11... Nov 5 2011, 05:13 PM

Daylen QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 5 2011, 05:13 PM) Fun... Nov 5 2011, 05:15 PM
kzt QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 5 2011, 08:58 AM) For... Nov 6 2011, 04:23 AM
Daylen QUOTE (kzt @ Nov 6 2011, 05:23 AM) I can... Nov 6 2011, 01:33 PM
kzt QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 6 2011, 06:33 AM) You... Nov 6 2011, 09:06 PM
Paul I like my NPC's to make sense. It's not an... Nov 5 2011, 04:51 PM
CanRay So far, none of my demos have even gotten that far... Nov 5 2011, 05:21 PM
CanRay I had my group *BE* the bystanders of a shoot-out ... Nov 6 2011, 04:25 AM
Faraday QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 5 2011, 08:25 PM) I h... Nov 6 2011, 03:00 PM
Tech_Rat CanRay, if I am EVER, for some unGodly reason, in ... Nov 6 2011, 05:25 AM
CanRay I'd need a group first. Bring one.
Demos, ho... Nov 6 2011, 05:47 AM
Tech_Rat What's the difficulty of smuggling several Ame... Nov 6 2011, 05:49 AM
CanRay Getting into Canada? No problem. Getting back to... Nov 6 2011, 05:50 AM
Daylen QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 6 2011, 06:50 AM) Get... Nov 6 2011, 01:29 PM
Paul Bull's comments made me think about this-and I... Nov 6 2011, 03:56 PM
CanRay Hell, I've been interested for 20-years and st... Nov 6 2011, 05:26 PM
Brainpiercing7.62mm QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 4 2011, 09:31 PM) The... Nov 6 2011, 11:51 PM
Daylen QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Nov 7 2011, 12... Nov 7 2011, 12:41 AM
CanRay QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Nov 6 2011, 07... Nov 7 2011, 02:57 AM
Brainpiercing7.62mm QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 7 2011, 04:57 AM) Twe... Nov 7 2011, 09:35 AM
CanRay QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Nov 7 2011, 05... Nov 7 2011, 04:32 PM
MortVent Well I see tasers and legal weapons with no restri... Nov 7 2011, 12:56 AM
Daylen QUOTE (MortVent @ Nov 7 2011, 12:56 AM) W... Nov 7 2011, 01:29 AM

MortVent QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 6 2011, 08:29 PM) If ... Nov 7 2011, 01:36 AM

Daylen QUOTE (MortVent @ Nov 7 2011, 01:36 AM) .... Nov 7 2011, 01:41 AM
Blog QUOTE (MortVent @ Nov 6 2011, 07:56 PM) I... Nov 7 2011, 04:41 PM
CanRay QUOTE (Blog @ Nov 7 2011, 12:41 PM) Consi... Nov 7 2011, 04:55 PM
Daylen QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 7 2011, 04:55 PM) Som... Nov 7 2011, 05:18 PM
Paul Not tonight but this week I'll be offering a m... Nov 7 2011, 01:18 AM
Daylen In general I would expect white collar workers liv... Nov 7 2011, 01:38 AM
MortVent QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 6 2011, 08:38 PM) In ... Nov 7 2011, 01:42 AM
Saint Sithney Strangely enough it was Paul's gun-in-a-bar qu... Nov 7 2011, 11:32 AM
Brainpiercing7.62mm QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Nov 7 2011, 01:32 ... Nov 7 2011, 01:09 PM

Blade QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Nov 7 2011, 02... Nov 7 2011, 02:11 PM
Daylen QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Nov 7 2011, 12:32 ... Nov 7 2011, 02:07 PM
Ascalaphus Maybe long immersion in the Matrix isn't healt... Nov 7 2011, 01:35 PM
Ascalaphus On this whole "the way people feel about arme... Nov 7 2011, 03:24 PM
Brainpiercing7.62mm In Germany, I'm quite used to seeing uniformed... Nov 7 2011, 04:02 PM
Blade In the train stations in Paris there are military ... Nov 7 2011, 04:12 PM
Dahrken QUOTE (Blade @ Nov 7 2011, 05:12 PM) In t... Nov 7 2011, 06:27 PM
Brazilian_Shinobi QUOTE (Dahrken @ Nov 7 2011, 03:27 PM) Th... Nov 7 2011, 07:15 PM
Daylen QUOTE (Dahrken @ Nov 7 2011, 06:27 PM) Th... Nov 7 2011, 08:11 PM
CanRay No. I grew up in a lower-class neighborhood, with... Nov 7 2011, 05:31 PM
Daylen QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 7 2011, 06:31 PM) No.... Nov 7 2011, 05:50 PM
CanRay No, I'm a bloody idiot. Of course I attempted... Nov 7 2011, 05:54 PM
kzt QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 7 2011, 10:54 AM) No,... Nov 7 2011, 07:38 PM

Daylen QUOTE (kzt @ Nov 7 2011, 07:38 PM) No, th... Nov 7 2011, 08:07 PM
Daylen QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 7 2011, 05:54 PM) No,... Nov 7 2011, 08:07 PM
Saint Hallow Another thing is escalation of violence. Steven B... Nov 7 2011, 06:15 PM
CanRay QUOTE (kzt @ Nov 7 2011, 03:38 PM) No, th... Nov 7 2011, 10:38 PM
Brainpiercing7.62mm QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 8 2011, 12:38 AM) Wou... Nov 8 2011, 12:54 AM
CanRay QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Nov 7 2011, 08... Nov 8 2011, 01:15 AM
Daylen QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 8 2011, 01:15 AM) No,... Nov 8 2011, 01:49 AM
Daylen QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 7 2011, 10:38 PM) ...... Nov 8 2011, 01:36 AM
CanRay QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 7 2011, 09:36 PM) Tha... Nov 8 2011, 01:39 AM![]() ![]() |
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