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First time poster here, my apologies if I'm putting this in the incorrect location.

I'm attempting to create a character that doesn't cast spells but would be able to protect the party fairly well from magic. The purpose is for use in an otherwise completely mundane party so the party doesn't get curb stomped the first time an NPC mage casts improved invisibility at force 5 with 5 successes or decides to overcast manaball at the party. I'm okay with the character concept being an adept, mystic adept, or magician as needed to accomplish this, they will just know 0 spells (including useful stuff like mana barrier). I'd generally like to stay away from things like the background count modification negative quality to accomplish this.

A few questions:

Is this concept even possible?

Has this concept already been covered somewhere that I could reference?

Can an adept use the counterspelling skill or do you at the least need to be a mystic adept with at least 1 point assigned to magic (non-PP stuff)? Or is it only available to full magicians?

From my understanding there is the magic resistance positive quality, the 2 metagenetic qualities, the adept magic resistance power, counterspelling, mentors that help with counterspelling, counterspelling foci, mana barrier, shielding initiate power, and wards that can help with not getting hurt by spells. Is there anything else that is mobile that could aid in that? (I'm not thinking of trying to combine all of these rather I want to know what all tools are available to go with the concept so I can choose a few from a list)

Are there any completely mundane means for protecting against magic like improved invisibility, spirit concealment, overcast combat spells, mind control, etc? A few ideas were motion sensors, ultrasound, and things along those lines.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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- rlor   Anti-magic character concept questions   Nov 4 2011, 07:48 PM
- - HunterHerne   There is, in fact, a Null-mage concept somewhere o...   Nov 4 2011, 08:09 PM
- - Irion   @rlor Well, you need to buy magician and get as mu...   Nov 4 2011, 08:13 PM
- - Paul   Anything's possible! And don't let any...   Nov 4 2011, 08:23 PM
- - Ol' Scratch   Arcane Arrester + Astral Hazing with low Essence =...   Nov 4 2011, 08:35 PM
- - Psikerlord   Are there rules on hiring spirit services? That wo...   Nov 4 2011, 09:34 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Psikerlord @ Nov 4 2011, 06:34 PM)...   Nov 4 2011, 10:01 PM
||- - Dahrken   QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Nov 4 2011, 11:01 PM...   Nov 5 2011, 06:14 AM
||- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Dahrken @ Nov 5 2011, 03:14 AM) A ...   Nov 5 2011, 12:30 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Psikerlord @ Nov 4 2011, 02:34 PM)...   Nov 5 2011, 03:12 AM
- - Psikerlord   Yeah ... I'm sure in older editions there was ...   Nov 4 2011, 10:18 PM
- - Ryu   Where does this build stand on spirits? Is summoni...   Nov 5 2011, 04:28 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Ryu @ Nov 4 2011, 09:28 PM) Where ...   Nov 5 2011, 06:26 AM
- - PresentPresence   This sounds like a cool character, and Udoshi...   Nov 5 2011, 05:15 AM
- - Psikerlord   How about this to protect a mundane: he pays a mag...   Nov 5 2011, 09:38 AM
- - UmaroVI   I wonder if you could get somewhere useful by focu...   Nov 5 2011, 01:11 PM
- - Daylen   So would this group seek out trouble with mages? I...   Nov 5 2011, 05:22 PM
- - rlor   To answer a couple of questions posed: The fluff ...   Nov 5 2011, 05:27 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (rlor @ Nov 5 2011, 06:27 PM) ... ...   Nov 5 2011, 05:44 PM
|- - rlor   QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 5 2011, 01:44 PM) So ...   Nov 5 2011, 06:11 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (rlor @ Nov 5 2011, 07:11 PM) A gun...   Nov 5 2011, 07:30 PM
|- - rlor   QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 5 2011, 03:30 PM) And...   Nov 5 2011, 08:06 PM
- - Irion   @rlor If you are attacked by mages go for a full m...   Nov 5 2011, 08:19 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Irion @ Nov 5 2011, 01:19 PM) @rlo...   Nov 5 2011, 09:11 PM
- - rlor   I tend to be the one that gets saddled with playin...   Nov 5 2011, 09:03 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (rlor @ Nov 5 2011, 10:03 PM) I ten...   Nov 5 2011, 10:41 PM
- - UmaroVI   The main thing you need a mage to cover is Astral ...   Nov 5 2011, 10:49 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Nov 5 2011, 03:49 PM) Th...   Nov 6 2011, 02:39 AM
|- - klinktastic   QUOTE (Glyph @ Nov 5 2011, 09:39 PM) Pixi...   Nov 6 2011, 03:30 AM
- - Ol' Scratch   QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 5 2011, 04:41 PM) Bei...   Nov 5 2011, 11:11 PM
- - Glyph   Pixies can be good at covert intrusion and theft -...   Nov 6 2011, 07:01 AM
- - Saint Hallow   I'm a little upset that it seems the only way ...   Nov 7 2011, 07:46 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Nov 7 2011, 07:46 P...   Nov 7 2011, 08:04 PM
- - Irion   @Saint Hallow It is even worse. The only way to co...   Nov 7 2011, 08:06 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (Irion @ Nov 7 2011, 08:06 PM) @Sai...   Nov 7 2011, 08:15 PM
|- - rlor   QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 7 2011, 03:15 PM) I d...   Nov 7 2011, 09:54 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (rlor @ Nov 7 2011, 10:54 PM) With ...   Nov 7 2011, 10:33 PM
||- - rlor   QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 7 2011, 05:33 PM) Aga...   Nov 7 2011, 10:52 PM
|- - Ol' Scratch   QUOTE (rlor @ Nov 7 2011, 03:54 PM) With ...   Nov 7 2011, 11:15 PM
- - Irion   @Daylen Well, how do you shoot somebody who is onl...   Nov 7 2011, 09:24 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (Irion @ Nov 7 2011, 10:24 PM) @Day...   Nov 7 2011, 10:23 PM
||- - Irion   QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 7 2011, 11:23 PM) Wel...   Nov 7 2011, 11:28 PM
||- - Daylen   QUOTE (Irion @ Nov 7 2011, 11:28 PM) ... ...   Nov 8 2011, 02:09 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Irion @ Nov 7 2011, 02:24 PM) @Day...   Nov 8 2011, 01:48 AM
|- - Irion   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Nov 8 2011, 02:48 AM) The...   Nov 8 2011, 09:25 AM
- - rlor   I never said they were the super end all be all. ...   Nov 7 2011, 11:22 PM
- - Saint Hallow   1 mundane character created via regular chargen vs...   Nov 7 2011, 11:24 PM
- - thorya   It sounds like you don't want to have to make ...   Nov 7 2011, 11:56 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (thorya @ Nov 7 2011, 04:56 PM) Hav...   Nov 8 2011, 01:55 AM
- - rlor   thorya: Good points on those, thanks. Up until ab...   Nov 8 2011, 12:43 AM
- - rlor   QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 7 2011, 09:09 PM) No ...   Nov 8 2011, 02:45 AM


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